Far-right terrorism is on the rise in the UK

[Setton]

3 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Indeed @RabidMongoose. But most of the terrorist attacks in the UK over the last 200 years have been left-wing !

Source? 

3 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

And yet most Islamist terrorists are from reasonably well-off backgrounds, and have higher-than-average education. As for "second rate citizens", that is simply not true.

Source? 

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What IS true is that they read - and believed - a book, and that turned them into murderers. 

Still not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. 

[Setton]

2 hours ago, aztek said:

would it be incidents that they themselves helped create?

No, it wouldn't. 

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like provide some young dumb idiots with an idea, and fake explosives, then bust him, and paint themselves hero?  we got fbi doing it here,

Source? 

Oh, what's the point? Already asked RG for one. If he can't provide it, why would I think you might? 

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

I don't think we do that in the UK. Our anti-entrapment laws are too strong ? 

He's not going to believe that. That would involve admitting another country is better at something than his fantasy America. 

[spud the mackem]

Right wing....Left wing …..what's going on down the middle , the Media on all sides elaborates the truth when it suits them .

[RoofGardener]

15 hours ago, Setton said:

Source? 

Source? 

Still not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. 

Most terrorist attacks in the last 200 years have been left-wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#19th_century

And yet most Islamist terrorists are from reasonably well-off backgrounds, and have higher-than-average education http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/448221510079762554/120997-WP-revised-PUBLIC-Role-of-Education-in-Prevention-of-Violence-Extremism-Final.pdf (page 7/8 are most illuminating). 

What IS true is that they read - and believed - a book, and that turned them into murderers.  ... see above link (pages 3-5). 

Oh.. and that FBI report ? Still trying to track it down. 

[RoofGardener]

20 hours ago, Essan said:

But surely most terrorists in the UK have been right wing?   Either nationalists (IRA) or conservative religious extremists (Islamic jihadists)?

The only left wingers I can think of are animal rights/climate change protestors?   Most of whom are annoying twerps rather than actual terrorists.

Guy Fawkes was probably left wing - but most people these days think he had the right idea!
 

Traditionally, the IRA was a Maoist/Revolutionary organisation. I'm not sure about the present-day groups like Continuity IRA etc. 

[Setton]

2 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Most terrorist attacks in the last 200 years have been left-wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#19th_century

Thanks but not sure that supports your claim. 

Unless you're characterising IRA as left wing? 

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And yet most Islamist terrorists are from reasonably well-off backgrounds, and have higher-than-average education http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/448221510079762554/120997-WP-revised-PUBLIC-Role-of-Education-in-Prevention-of-Violence-Extremism-Final.pdf (page 7/8 are most illuminating). 

Interesting read. However, I would caution against extrapolating from examples in Africa and the ME to homegrown terrorists in Europe, for example. 

Also worth noting the exact opposite was seen in Iraq - once the US started providing education to detainees, release rates dramatically increased and recidivism plummeted. 

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What IS true is that they read - and believed - a book, and that turned them into murderers.  ... see above link (pages 3-5). 

Can't find anything in p3-5 supporting that claim. 

In fact, later pages specifically attribute radicalisation to perceived injustices (rather than a book or poverty).