hacktorp 3,147 #26 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, Gromdor said: Let me get this straight- The three of you think that the below is fake, the CIA is kept out of loops in the intelligence world, and that the whole agency is just there to act as a shadow government (Deep State)? https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-isis-leader-al-baghdadi-wife-courier-arrested-tip-2019-10 You seem to be crediting Military Intelligence. Do you even know what their role and scope of work is in global information gathering? And you still haven't answered why Baghdadi has anything to do with the Deep State. The hastily spun story of the CIA "finding" al Baghdadi by following his wife around is laughable...and cynical. The speed with which the story spread throughout controlled media is also a big tell that it is classic CIA propaganda, which is to say, a complete lie. The CIA always knew where al Baghdadi was...he was THEIR guy. Eliminating al Baghdadi was a top objective of the Trump administration...and you think those gargoyles seen in the video above, who admit to wanting to "take out" Trump, also wanted to assist him in killing their own guy? Think again. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gromdor 10,332 #27 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, hacktorp said: The hastily spun story of the CIA "finding" al Baghdadi by following his wife around is laughable...and cynical. The speed with which the story spread throughout controlled media is also a big tell that it is classic CIA propaganda, which is to say, a complete lie. The CIA always knew where al Baghdadi was...he was THEIR guy. Eliminating al Baghdadi was a top objective of the Trump administration...and you think those gargoyles seen in the video above, who admit to wanting to "take out" Trump, also wanted to assist him in killing their own guy? Think again. Ah, that was the root of what I was trying to get at. So you believe Baghdadi and ISIS are American assets controlled by the CIA and the Deep State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hacktorp 3,147 #28 Posted November 3 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: Ah, that was the root of what I was trying to get at. So you believe Baghdadi and ISIS are American assets controlled by the CIA and the Deep State. I know that's what you were trying to get at...but you're wrong. Al Baghdadi was a Globalist asset, managed by a stateless CIA and 'other' agencies. He was killed by American assets. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farmer77 26,981 #29 Posted November 3 Just now, hacktorp said: I know that's what you were trying to get at...but you're wrong. Al Baghdadi was a Globalist asset, managed by a stateless CIA and 'other' agencies. He was killed by American assets. Man you guys are being especially hilarious all across the board today 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bee 11,894 #30 Posted November 3 10 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Man you guys are being especially hilarious all across the board today Bit too close for comfort....? SEND IN THE MEME.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bee 11,894 #31 Posted November 3 (edited) 25 minutes ago, hacktorp said: I know that's what you were trying to get at...but you're wrong. Al Baghdadi was a Globalist asset, managed by a stateless CIA and 'other' agencies. He was killed by American assets. This is the difference that needs to be understood... Thanks for your clarity on these matters... Edited November 3 by bee 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hacktorp 3,147 #32 Posted November 3 4 minutes ago, bee said: Bit too close for comfort....? Seems to be the case. When we have "liberal" posters falling all over themselves to defend the likes of the CIA...whose two previous directors just admitted a desire to illegally take out a(nother) US President, we have reached peak lib-insanity. Or at least peak paid-troll hysteria. The battle lines are now clearly drawn. It's fascinating to watch who 'outs' themselves in the light of the new day. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bee 11,894 #33 Posted November 3 I can remember a few years ago when it came out that America (Britain and France) were giving air cover to Al Qaeda fighting on the ground in Libya - when Gaddaffi was being deposed / murdered and the country being regime changed... .... I was shocked and confused..... but now I understand that it was a Globalist Mission .... not an American one.. No wonder the likes of Brennan and all the Globalist Assets are going nuts - because Trump is Commander in Chief of the most powerful military on the planet - and he ISN'T their puppet... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farmer77 26,981 #34 Posted November 3 9 minutes ago, bee said: and he ISN'T their puppet... No he definitely isnt theirs 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bee 11,894 #35 Posted November 3 (edited) @Farmer77 oh haha.... I know you don't really believe that Trump is Putin's puppet - Edited November 3 by bee 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hacktorp 3,147 #36 Posted November 3 It seems Farmer has short-circuited to a memes-only response loop. Which I normally would enjoy, except this time around the memes rather lack a bit of sizzle. He'll be back on his game soon, I know! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug1029 5,885 #37 Posted November 4 On 11/1/2019 at 7:28 PM, bee said: Those people... in the upper echelons of the CIA (directing work on the ground) are literally a law unto themselves and operating completely outside the democratic process... in other words they are dictators - but they have to be careful to keep the illusion of democracy going... Is the Trump Presidency revealing that at it's heart America is a Covert Dictatorship... (this would also apply to other Western Nations... not least the UK - as we have seen with Brexit - ie Brexit being voted for but not being delivered...) List of CIA controversies (wiki) I take it you would favor abolishing the CIA. What would you give up to do that? Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug1029 5,885 #38 Posted November 4 19 hours ago, Farmer77 said: No he definitely isnt theirs I suspect that tRUMP got caught in a honey trap when he was in Moscow for the Miss Universe competition. Doug 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bee 11,894 #39 Posted November 14 On 11/4/2019 at 2:38 PM, Doug1029 said: I take it you would favor abolishing the CIA. What would you give up to do that? Doug clearly something needs to be done about the CIA - what CAN be done to reign them in I don't know... there are some very ruthless and dangerous people operating in the shadows ---- and some of them are controling and influencing the CIA... to name one of the areas /organizations of concern... I suppose throughout history 'wicked' men (and women) have manipulated and co-opted the weak... to covertly oppress and control the General Population,...to possess wealth, resources and power... we are just seeing it played out in a modern setting... the dramas of Good and Evil and all the grey fluctuating areas inbetween.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankenhunter 4,358 #40 Posted November 14 On 11/3/2019 at 11:25 AM, Farmer77 said: No he definitely isnt theirs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
