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Ape bones point to genesis of upright walking

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The distinctive human habit of walking upright may have evolved millions of years earlier than thought, according to researchers who uncovered the remains of an ancient ape in southern Germany.

Excavations from the Hammerschmiede clay pit in Bavaria turned up fossilised bones belonging to a previously unknown baboon-sized ape that lived nearly 12m years ago, long before humans split from their modern-day cousins, the chimpanzees and bonobos.

Analysis of the bones shows that the animal, named Danuvius guggenmosi, had an unusual mix of anatomical features. While its long forearms, curved fingers and powerful, grasping thumbs were hallmarks of life spent dangling from branches, the hips, knees and feet were more human-like and better suited to walking upright, the scientists said.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/nov/06/bones-of-ape-living-12m-years-point-to-genesis-of-upright-walking

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50305423

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Hammerclaw

Rather Gibbon-like.

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docyabut2
13 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Rather Gibbon-like.

really  where all those  foot prints found in  the  America s are just  them

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Hammerclaw
3 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

really  where all those  foot prints found in  the  America s are just  them

There are no great apes native to the Americas. New World monkeys diverged from Old World monkeys after rafting over from Africa less that 30,000,000 years ago.

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hetrodoxly
6 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

There are no great apes native to the Americas. New World monkeys diverged from Old World monkeys after rafting over from Africa less that 30,000,000 years ago.

'30,000,000 years ago' is that a typo?

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Hammerclaw
6 hours ago, hetrodoxly said:

'30,000,000 years ago' is that a typo?

No. There are no primates in the fossil record in the New World before that point in time.

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hetrodoxly
1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

No. There are no primates in the fossil record in the New World before that point in time.

I suppose that is a true fact, as there as there were no British.

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Carnoferox
1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

No. There are no primates in the fossil record in the New World before that point in time.

That's not exactly true, as there were omomyid and adapid primates in North America as early as the Eocene (ca. 56 Ma).

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Hammerclaw

They were ground-dwelling animals and were driven to extinction in NA by rodents. After their extinction there were no primates in America until the Africans arrived on mangrove mats.

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Carnoferox
1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

They were ground-dwelling animals and were driven to extinction in NA by rodents. After their extinction there were no primates in America until the Africans arrived on mangrove mats.

Omomyids and adapids were arboreal, not ground-dwelling.

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Hammerclaw
58 minutes ago, Carnoferox said:

Omomyids and adapids were arboreal, not ground-dwelling.

They became tarsier-like, yes, before they vanished during The Great Break Extinction. Only the South American Platyrrhines were left in this Hemisphere. They seemed to have arrived earlier than I first surmised, on the order of 40,000,000 years ago.

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docyabut2

ok all no human  bones ever  found in the Americas before 14,000 years ago .

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