The Real Illuminati

[MinervaSC]

Hey, Would love some opinions on the Original Illuminati,

Did they go deep into the Freemasons? or did they die out?

I recently made a video about it, but still a little undecided...

 

 

[Piney]

Died out and replaced by the Royal Society.

[TellLieVision]

I have a question connected to the theme, not the topic per se: I once remember watching a doc on either the freemasons or the illuminati where it was told there was a nameplate for one of these elite familes somewhere in a public site in Washington DC. And the voice in off alluded to the fact that one day one familiy member of that elite cabal refrered to that plaque saying "if people knew the things we've done" or "we've done things much worse" something along those lines. 

I don't know if all of that is true. I'm just curious if anyone remembers more details: where  that was and who that elite family was.

[Scholar4Truth]

In a simple breakdown. The Illuminati were a group of Humanists and some were Deists who basically were anti clerical and anti Christian in their philosophy. They dressed up a women as the goddess of reason and paraded her around the town square, and came up with their own 10 commandments. They even turned violent and caused riots. If you want to know more look up the French Revolution they played a big part in it.

[Alchopwn]

The original "Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria" (AISB) can be described as a book club that went feral.

They weren't that way originally and were in fact more of a left leaning liberal reading group with freemasonic members.  Over time they became more masonic and proto-communist.

Most people don't really understand freemasonry and what made it powerful.  They think that its power derived from occult rituals or somesuch.  In fact that wasn't the case.  The power of freemasonry came from the fact that it provided a safe space for people to exercise free speech and where people of all social classes could mingle and be judged on their merits not their purse or their birth.  Freemasonry was instrumental in undermining the aristocracy and the power of the Church, and was a versatile enemy of feudalism, giving voice to many people trapped in a stultifying social prison by their birth.  It is important that people understand how much of an enemy that the aristocracy and the church were to personal liberty back in the day, as the idea seems lost on most people.

The AISB were using Freemasonic contacts to infiltrate the Bavarian government with the intention of staging a take-over.  The Bavarian State discovered the plot and moved to eliminate it, ending the AISB in the process via arrests.

Of course the thing most people forget about the AISB is that the AISB would have been nothing special without the involvement of a certain Adolf Francis, Baron Von Knigge (Yes, his last name is pronounced like the "N" word).  Knigge provided the social contacts that allowed the group to flourish and expand.

Really the AISB was merely one in a long line of religious and political underground movements in Europe.  This had included anyone the church deemed enough of an enemy to persecute.  In fact, in the USA most people are not Catholic, but you hear extremist protestants being very hostile to the Freemasons.  This is flagrantly ridiculous, as the Freemasons provided an environment where protestantism was able to be heard and flourish in the past.  Yes, Freemasonry demanded secrecy, as free speech was not socially protected, and so they needed group solidarity to provide that protection for them.  The ritualism merely provided a psychological counterpoint to keep the superstitious in line.

[The man in the tan jacket]

We are still here

[Piney]

On 5/25/2020 at 8:35 AM, Alchopwn said:

The original "Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria" (AISB) can be described as a book club that went feral.

They weren't that way originally and were in fact more of a left leaning liberal reading group with freemasonic members.  Over time they became more masonic and proto-communist.

Most people don't really understand freemasonry and what made it powerful.  They think that its power derived from occult rituals or somesuch.  In fact that wasn't the case.  The power of freemasonry came from the fact that it provided a safe space for people to exercise free speech and where people of all social classes could mingle and be judged on their merits not their purse or their birth.  Freemasonry was instrumental in undermining the aristocracy and the power of the Church, and was a versatile enemy of feudalism, giving voice to many people trapped in a stultifying social prison by their birth.  It is important that people understand how much of an enemy that the aristocracy and the church were to personal liberty back in the day, as the idea seems lost on most people.

The AISB were using Freemasonic contacts to infiltrate the Bavarian government with the intention of staging a take-over.  The Bavarian State discovered the plot and moved to eliminate it, ending the AISB in the process via arrests.

Of course the thing most people forget about the AISB is that the AISB would have been nothing special without the involvement of a certain Adolf Francis, Baron Von Knigge (Yes, his last name is pronounced like the "N" word).  Knigge provided the social contacts that allowed the group to flourish and expand.

Really the AISB was merely one in a long line of religious and political underground movements in Europe.  This had included anyone the church deemed enough of an enemy to persecute.  In fact, in the USA most people are not Catholic, but you hear extremist protestants being very hostile to the Freemasons.  This is flagrantly ridiculous, as the Freemasons provided an environment where protestantism was able to be heard and flourish in the past.  Yes, Freemasonry demanded secrecy, as free speech was not socially protected, and so they needed group solidarity to provide that protection for them.  The ritualism merely provided a psychological counterpoint to keep the superstitious in line.

Tell this to the Adventists....

[diddyman68]

I'm no intellectual or anything,no degrees or anything..but when i think of the word Illuminati ,i just think over millenia certain groups of people got rich and used that money to influence political groups of the day.then used their power to make governments rely on them.nowerdays they control drugs ,tech healthcare ,everything.and governments do whatever they say.

Just an opinion of an uneducated geordie boy.