Raptor Witness Posted February 12, 2020 #126 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) CNN just reported that more resignations at the DOJ may be coming. If so, then President Trump may face a new enemy, called credibility. Barr needs to resign immediately. He has become like Nagini. Edited February 12, 2020 by Raptor Witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 13, 2020 #127 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 10:08 PM, hacktorp said: Do you think he might be accused of unfairly targeting only those subordinates who happened to stab him in the back? That could be an impeachable offense, I bet. No more so then Comey. Or McCabe. They're Frederal employees in the Executive Branch. Trump can fire anyone under him at any time. McCabe sued for his position to be reinstated. Doesnt look its going to happen though. I dont believe Sondland, or Vindman, count as whistleblowers... so that wont protect them. Is there a Federal reprisal law? I'm not sure. If there is, then they'll have a case. Probably take till after the election to sort it out though. EDIT: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/workplace-retaliation-employee-rights-30217.html Appear the retaliation laws seem to deal with thosevwhonfiled complaints. There's also a bit on some states even covering other things. Which implies the Federal law doesn't cover other things... like testifying against your boss in court and then being fired when he's not convicted. These guys doubtless grabbed several lawyers and figured they were screwed, and so left. They rolled the dice, and crapped out at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 13, 2020 #128 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Raptor Witness said: CNN just reported that more resignations at the DOJ may be coming. If so, then President Trump may face a new enemy, called credibility. Barr needs to resign immediately. He has become like Nagini. Hey Republican lawyers!! New openings in the DOJ. Just need to do your job and keep your head down. Pays well. Good hours. Assigned parking. I believe most of these guys were on the Stone investigation team for Mueller. So, most likely are career Democrats. Nice for them to quit so some Republicans can take their spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted February 13, 2020 #129 Share Posted February 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, DieChecker said: Hey Republican lawyers!! New openings in the DOJ. Just need to do your job and keep your head down. Pays well. Good hours. Assigned parking. I believe most of these guys were on the Stone investigation team for Mueller. So, most likely are career Democrats. Nice for them to quit so some Republicans can take their spots. The DOJ isn’t about “party.” That’s just another lie told by this cult leader to his dumb azz followers, They can’t ignore the law. They’re just doing their jobs. Let the President pardon Stone. What’s he afraid of? That’s his constitutional remedy, but Trump doesn’t have the balls to use it, because he’s a coward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 13, 2020 #130 Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Raptor Witness said: The DOJ isn’t about “party.” That’s just another lie told by this cult leader to his dumb azz followers, They can’t ignore the law. They’re just doing their jobs. Then you wont mind the Trump appointed leadership remaining on if a Democrat wins the election? Point is people can do their job, AND be bias in doing it. I think the mess the FBI created with Stozk and the FISA abuses, show that's true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted February 13, 2020 #131 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, DieChecker said: Then you wont mind the Trump appointed leadership remaining on if a Democrat wins the election? Point is people can do their job, AND be bias in doing it. I think the mess the FBI created with Stozk and the FISA abuses, show that's true. “Let the President pardon Stone. What’s he afraid of? That’s his constitutional remedy, but Trump doesn’t have the balls to use it, because he’s a coward.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted February 13, 2020 #132 Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 hours ago, DieChecker said: Hey Republican lawyers!! New openings in the DOJ. Just need to do your job and keep your head down. Pays well. Good hours. Assigned parking. I believe most of these guys were on the Stone investigation team for Mueller. So, most likely are career Democrats. Nice for them to quit so some Republicans can take their spots. Mueller, Jessie Liu, and the bulk of the four prosecutors are Republican. Two even clerked/served for Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens and have accomplishments for several pro-conservative cases. Aaron Zelinsky, Adam Jed, Michael Marando and Jonathan Kravis are their names if you want to look them up and their accomplishments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 13, 2020 #133 Share Posted February 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said: “Let the President pardon Stone. What’s he afraid of? That’s his constitutional remedy, but Trump doesn’t have the balls to use it, because he’s a coward.” Meh... We'll have to wait and see. President Obama pardoned a bunch of people on his last day, including Bradley (Chelsea) Manning. Arguably the worst military leaker ever. Was Obama a gutless coward for doing so on his last day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 13, 2020 #134 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Mueller, Jessie Liu, and the bulk of the four prosecutors are Republican. Two even clerked/served for Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens and have accomplishments for several pro-conservative cases. Aaron Zelinsky, Adam Jed, Michael Marando and Jonathan Kravis are their names if you want to look them up and their accomplishments. Zelinsky is on record as saying he's a Democrat. Jed shows in voting registration as being a Democrat. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/mar/21/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claims-about-Mueller/ Kravis was an Obama White House counsel, so likely is Democrat. Marando, I didnt immediately find anything, but him being Democrat fits with the other three. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted February 13, 2020 #135 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, DieChecker said: Zelinsky is on record as saying he's a Democrat. Jed shows in voting registration as being a Democrat. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/mar/21/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claims-about-Mueller/ Kravis was an Obama White House counsel, so likely is Democrat. Marando, I didnt immediately find anything, but him being Democrat fits with the other three. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html Hah, perhaps I should have been the one to dig deeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian hacktorp Posted February 13, 2020 #136 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: Hah, perhaps I should have been the one to dig deeper. Plus, the lead jury foreman is a partisan hack who the defense tried to have removed, but Leftist, activist Judge Amy Berman Jackson refused. This entire Stone case is yet another railroad job done by Trump-hating bureaucrats on both sides and may well get thrown out before all is said and done. Amy Berman Jackson has no business being a judge and should face charges herself. The four prosecutors did NOT resign in protest, either...they cut and ran when Jessie Liu departed, because she protected them. REVEALED: Roger Stone jury foreman is a failed Democrat candidate who mocked his arrest, labeled Trump supporters racist and posed with ex-DNC chair Donna Brazile Foreperson on Roger Stone jury is revealed as anti-Trump activist Tomeka Hart, a former Memphis City Schools Board President, came forward as the Stone jury foreperson in a Facebook post on Wednesday, voicing support for prosecutors. dailymail.co.uk 7:58 AM · Feb 13, 2020·Twitter Web App 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatecraft Posted February 14, 2020 #137 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, hacktorp said: Plus, the lead jury foreman is a partisan hack who the defense tried to have removed, but Leftist, activist Judge Amy Berman Jackson refused. This entire Stone case is yet another railroad job done by Trump-hating bureaucrats on both sides and may well get thrown out before all is said and done. Amy Berman Jackson has no business being a judge and should face charges herself. The four prosecutors did NOT resign in protest, either...they cut and ran when Jessie Liu departed, because she protected them. REVEALED: Roger Stone jury foreman is a failed Democrat candidate who mocked his arrest, labeled Trump supporters racist and posed with ex-DNC chair Donna Brazile Foreperson on Roger Stone jury is revealed as anti-Trump activist Tomeka Hart, a former Memphis City Schools Board President, came forward as the Stone jury foreperson in a Facebook post on Wednesday, voicing support for prosecutors. dailymail.co.uk 7:58 AM · Feb 13, 2020·Twitter Web App Switch party affiliations and this would be huge. As it now stands? Nothing burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted February 14, 2020 #138 Share Posted February 14, 2020 National Review’s Top Troll Demands Roger Stone Die in Prison "Crimes committed by politically powerful people in the service of politically powerful people corrupt our system of government and undermine faith in our institutions. They should be punished much more harshly than, say, selling a couple of grams of cocaine." But it's always the pro-Trump fraternity who are hate-filled and vindictive isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted February 14, 2020 #139 Share Posted February 14, 2020 10 hours ago, hacktorp said: Plus, the lead jury foreman is a partisan hack who the defense tried to have removed, but Leftist, activist Judge Amy Berman Jackson refused. This entire Stone case is yet another railroad job done by Trump-hating bureaucrats on both sides and may well get thrown out before all is said and done. Amy Berman Jackson has no business being a judge and should face charges herself. The four prosecutors did NOT resign in protest, either...they cut and ran when Jessie Liu departed, because she protected them. REVEALED: Roger Stone jury foreman is a failed Democrat candidate who mocked his arrest, labeled Trump supporters racist and posed with ex-DNC chair Donna Brazile Foreperson on Roger Stone jury is revealed as anti-Trump activist Tomeka Hart, a former Memphis City Schools Board President, came forward as the Stone jury foreperson in a Facebook post on Wednesday, voicing support for prosecutors. dailymail.co.uk 7:58 AM · Feb 13, 2020·Twitter Web App Yes, she actually tweeted on the subject while the case was underway? Surely that's contempt of court right there. Do you think if it had been a member of the pro-Trump fraternity that had done that, respected liberal commentators would be calling for her to be locked up for life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 15, 2020 #140 Share Posted February 15, 2020 22 hours ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: National Review’s Top Troll Demands Roger Stone Die in Prison "Crimes committed by politically powerful people in the service of politically powerful people corrupt our system of government and undermine faith in our institutions. They should be punished much more harshly than, say, selling a couple of grams of cocaine." But it's always the pro-Trump fraternity who are hate-filled and vindictive isn't it. Comment aimed at Nation Review... I'm not altogether sure Mr Stone is "politically powerful". From what I read he ran what he did out of a tiny office, with not even a secretary, and out of his home. Wasnt what he lied about to Congress was that he was politically connected, and connected to Wikileaks? Apparently he lied about his Wikileaks connection, but even then, i dont believe Corsi has ever been shown to have done anything but email Stone with Wikileaks supposition. Theres no doubt he WANTED to be a top echelon politician, but he always sucked at whatever he did, and changed projects, employers, and who he supported just about every year. His Wikipedia entry reads as a long list of coulda/shoulda, but failed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#Trial_and_conviction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buzz_Light_Year Posted July 11, 2020 #142 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 12:06 PM, Raptor Witness said: “Let the President pardon Stone. What’s he afraid of? That’s his constitutional remedy, but Trump doesn’t have the balls to use it, because he’s a coward.” Well the coward just commuted Roger Stone's sentence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted July 11, 2020 #143 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: Well the coward just commuted Roger Stone's sentence. Yup. Just days before Stone was scheduled to enter a federal prison. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/10/trump-commutes-sentence-roger-stone-356760 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted July 11, 2020 #144 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Everyone knew this was going to happen. If he doesn't use his political power to pardon those that obstruct investigations into his crimes or otherwise shield him (and punish those that help) then people would stop doing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted July 11, 2020 #145 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Controversial pardons are nothing new. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 11, 2020 #146 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Gromdor said: If he doesn't use his political power to pardon those that obstruct investigations into his crimes or otherwise shield him (and punish those that help) then people would stop doing it. Maybe it is frustration on his part. These are very tough times for the President. When he told covid-19 to disappear, it didn't. When he told the economy to skyrocket again, it didn't. When he told China he was going to put tariffs on them, they said go ahead. Our balance of trade is running about the same as it has been since 2012, with 2018 being highest ever. When we agreed to a trade deal, to settle our dispute with China, it got us back to the starting point When we invited them to join some kind of trilateral arms control negotiation they said Nah. When the greatest builder that has ever been President put his mind to building a wall, he got 3 new miles built in 4 years. When he told them he had done more for them than any president, maybe even Lincoln, there were still BLM protests and riots. His former truest best buddy Kim told him "You are wasting my time ," and dumped him. Ouch! The half dozen countries taking quick strong action and being successful at fighting covid-19 are governed by women. Burn! He is spending more time firing people to keep Rudy out of trouble than Rudy is doing for him. Even his own appointees to the Supreme Court follow the Constitution. He is heartbroken by the injustice of that. On the other hand he likes getting results simply by signing a piece of paper. Especially if somebody does the hard part of writing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted July 12, 2020 #147 Share Posted July 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: Well the coward just commuted Roger Stone's sentence. Only because Stone was about to spill some dirt on Trump. Some good grime, I betcha, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahc Posted July 12, 2020 #148 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Sen. Lindsey Graham said he will call Robert Mueller to testify before his committee "WASHINGTON – Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Sunday he will grant a request from Democrats to call Robert Mueller to testify before his committee, after the former Russia special counsel penned an op-ed pushing back against President Donald Trump's decision to commute the sentence of a longtime ally." Mueller seem a bit reticent if not coy last time he testified. I wasn't sure if it was age, or his republicanism coming through. He did not seem like a man wanting to set the record straight. I would hate for a repeat performance. He should stand up to the President and the Senate if he thinks they are in the wrong. Otherwise what could he possibly add? Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and the GOP senate would tell you they never read the report as they jump on an elevator. Here is Mueller Op Ed.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/mueller-stone-oped/?arc404=true Edited July 12, 2020 by micahc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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micahc Posted July 12, 2020 #150 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, acidhead said: thats kind of irrelevant. Obama commuted 100's to bring their sentence in line with proposed prison reform and new sentencing guidelines for non violent offenders. Trump let's people go who kiss his trump even when they are traitors, liars and thieves like him. people had life sentences for selling crack more often than for selling powder cocaine. Edited July 12, 2020 by micahc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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