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Christians in China being fingerprinted

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"Face and fingerprint scanning technology is reportedly being implemented in churches in China as the state continues its crackdown on religious minorities.

"Bitter Winter reports that facial recognition technology was installed at an official church in Urumqi, capital of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region.

"On October 6, two biometric devices were set up on the second floor of the Muyang Church in Huangshi city, Hubei, central China.  Since the installation of the devices, members of the congregation have had to wait in line to have their faces and fingerprints scanned before being allowed to enter the church, Bitter Winter reports."

Full article at Christian Today: https://christiantoday.com/article/churchgoers-in-china-forced-to-have-fingerprints-scanned-as-state-increases-surveillance/133622.htm

At Bitter Winter (campaign group): https://bitterwinter.org/want-to-enter-church-scan-your-fingerprints-and-face/


Sharp Eyes: (emphasis mine)

"We aim to shed light on this surveillance program in particular because it has been overshadowed by other programs such as the social credit system and the use of facial recognition to shame rule-breakers.

"In addition, by extending surveillance into rural areas, the program demonstrates how expansive Beijing’s aims are: to create a truly omnipresent surveillance state."

Full monty at China Digital Times: https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2019/09/sharper-eyes-surveilling-the-surveillers-part-1/

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Piney

BULLCRAP!

Bitter Winter??? REALLY?????

How come China isn't cracking down on Shamanism or Folk Magic as practiced by minority groups? :rolleyes:

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XenoFish

Meh.

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Eldorado
4 minutes ago, Piney said:

BULLCRAP!

Bitter Winter??? REALLY?????

How come China isn't cracking down on Shamanism or Folk Magic as practiced by minority groups? :rolleyes:

I know.  Your boys are never guilty of anything.

LOL

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Piney
Just now, Eldorado said:

I know.  Your boys are never guilty of anything.

Bitter Winter is run by Falun Gong and Christian Today is always whining about the "poor persecuted Christian". :lol:

 

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Just another example of a totalitarian government that demands control over all aspects of the lives of the people.  I'm sure that Xi and company don't want a growing population of citizens whose loyalties to the State are superceded by a religious faith that makes them willing to die to practice it, if need be.  That's no good at ALL ;)

 

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XenoFish
2 minutes ago, Piney said:

 "poor persecuted Christian". :lol:

 

Isn't that an almost universal complaint though.

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Piney
1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

Isn't that an almost universal complaint though.

Ironic isn't it???

Considering they tried to beat, starve and sodomize the Native Tradition out of my great grandfather. :yes:

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Eldorado
8 minutes ago, Piney said:

Bitter Winter is run by Falun Gong and Christian Today is always whining about the "poor persecuted Christian". :lol:

 

You're an apologist for your favourites.

The sins of our favourites will be ignored, denied or justified.  Human nature.

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Piney
3 minutes ago, Eldorado said:

You're an apologist for your favourites.

The sins of our favourites will be ignored, denied or justified.  Human nature.

Nope, giving a opposing view.

The U.S. always makes it's own enemies and my people were stomped even harder than any group in China. 

It was the greatest genocide in recorded history and it is completely denied.  :yes:

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third_eye

Good law abiding Christians, be they Catholics or Protestants, have no problems at all, all over China, in fact China loves them more than Jesus does at times...

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7 minutes ago, third_eye said:

Good law abiding Christians, be they Catholics or Protestants, have no problems at all, all over China, in fact China loves them more than Jesus does at times...

These articles keep saying "the persecution of religious minorities" yet I don't see any Tengrist being bothered. 

..and they are the smaller religion in China. :yes:

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Eldorado

"Nearly 140 million Christians suffered high levels of persecution in Asia last year, according to a new report, which described the situation facing the faith in China as the worst since the Cultural Revolution. "

South China Morning Post: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2182260/asia-new-hotbed-christian-persecution-situation-china-worst

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third_eye

140 million Christians, that can buy some evangelist a good few private jets on top of a good many gold plated toilet seats

:lol:

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22 minutes ago, Eldorado said:

"Nearly 140 million Christians suffered high levels of persecution in Asia last year, according to a new report, which described the situation facing the faith in China as the worst since the Cultural Revolution. "

South China Morning Post: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2182260/asia-new-hotbed-christian-persecution-situation-china-worst

Anything that criticizes China is obviously fake news Eldorado :rolleyes:.

Clearly the rest of the world and all the human rights groups are making stuff up lol

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https://www.businessinsider.com/china-uighur-monitor-home-shared-bed-report-2019-11

I'll just leave some more "fake" media here.

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It is almost impossible to hear from Uighurs in Xinjiang, as any communication with journalists or people outside the region can land them in detention. Uighurs living abroad previously told Business Insider that their relatives in the region had blocked them online to avoid being punished for communicating with outsiders

 

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third_eye

Those Uighurs so called living abroad are on the run from the law, Chinese nationals abroad have no problems keeping in touch with families and friends back home at all. 

This is all just so silly and tiresome it's becoming embarrassing. 

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Piney
42 minutes ago, third_eye said:

140 million Christians, that can buy some evangelist a good few private jets on top of a good many gold plated toilet seats

:lol:

Vietnam??? Anti-Christian???? Noooooo wayyyy!!! 

I wonder how that happened? :unsure2:

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Piney
23 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

I guess you shouldn't get involved with ISIS. :yes:

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third_eye
1 minute ago, Piney said:

Vietnam??? Anti-Christian???? Noooooo wayyyy!!! 

I wonder how that happened? :unsure2:

You saw the list at the Open Door wiki? What puzzled me more was Ethiopia... How did they compile the list I wonder, looks more like political than religious practices to me... 

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1 hour ago, Piney said:

Nope, giving a opposing view.

The U.S. always makes it's own enemies and my people were stomped even harder than any group in China. 

It was the greatest genocide in recorded history and it is completely denied.  :yes:

Look on the bright side.  You got Casinos out of the deal ;)   I really don't mean to make too light of it, I'm sure it was brutal as hell.  People have an annoying habit of crushing the weak and subjugating them for profit.  All cultures, all countries have had a taste of that because it isn't geography or society specific, it's just a human thing.  Apparently, it is now ******'s turn.  

Funny situation, true story.  We moved to Jackson Mississippi a decade ago for a position for my wife.  Whites are a minority in Jackson and we didn't realize that until we were in the Mall one day.  It was hilarious to be surrounded by black folk of all ages and statuses who were being very obvious with their attitude of superiority.  It occurred to me that when faced with that kind of nastiness, being offended really IS optional.  Put another way, if you refuse to buy into their narrative, are you really oppressed?  

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Piney
1 minute ago, third_eye said:

You saw the list at the Open Door wiki? What puzzled me more was Ethiopia... How did they compile the list I wonder, looks more like political than religious practices to me... 

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No, in the article Eldorado posted. 

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4 minutes ago, Piney said:

I guess you shouldn't get involved with ISIS. :yes:

Are all the Uighurs Islamist Fundamentalist or is this just an example of how the lords of the Middle Kingdom handle their people problems?  Serious question.  I hadn't heard of a problem with terror attacks in China by Islamists.  Are they crushing these people for religious or economic reasons?

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1 minute ago, and then said:

Look on the bright side.  You got Casinos out of the deal ;)   I really don't mean to make too light of it, I'm sure it was brutal as hell.  People have an annoying habit of crushing the weak and subjugating them for profit.  All cultures, all countries have had a taste of that because it isn't geography or society specific, it's just a human thing.  Apparently, it is now ******'s turn.  

Casinos, smoke shops and pot farms......giving us vice was a really good idea. :wacko:

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1 minute ago, and then said:

Are all the Uighurs Islamist Fundamentalist or is this just an example of how the lords of the Middle Kingdom handle their people problems?  Serious question.  I hadn't heard of a problem with terror attacks in China by Islamists.  Are they crushing these people for religious or economic reasons?

It got nipped in the bud quick. Saudi and Pakistani citizens were captured and "made to talk".  But yeah, the Uighurs claim a false history and went full fundy. 

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