Eldorado Posted November 25, 2019 #1 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) "Spanish police have intercepted what is believed to be the first submarine used to smuggle drugs into Europe and seized a reported three tonnes of Colombian cocaine. "Police sources say that the 20-metre-long submarine, thought to be similar to those used by drug traffickers to transport cocaine from Colombia to Mexico and the US, was detected in waters off the northwestern region of Galicia when its three-man crew got into difficulties due to engine problems. "In the early hours of Sunday morning two Ecuadorian men were arrested, but a manhunt continues for a third member of the gang, who is reported to be a Spanish citizen." Full monty at the UK Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/25/spanish-police-capture-europes-first-narco-submarine-carrying/ And at the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/25/spanish-police-attempt-refloat-captured-narco-submarine Edited November 25, 2019 by Eldorado 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 25, 2019 #2 Share Posted November 25, 2019 they drove a 20m submarine across the Atlantic ??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 25, 2019 #3 Share Posted November 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: they drove a 20m submarine across the Atlantic ??? They used them to carry drugs up to the East Coast of the U.S. in the 90s. Technology is getting better. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 25, 2019 #4 Share Posted November 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, Piney said: They used them to carry drugs up to the East Coast of the U.S. in the 90s. Technology is getting better. Well, perhaps. But going up a coast is one thing. Going across the Atlantic is quite another. where are they getting these submarines FROM ? Who builds/sells them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 25, 2019 #5 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, RoofGardener said: where are they getting these submarines FROM ? Who builds/sells them ? They are home made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 25, 2019 #6 Share Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Piney said: They are home made. Yeah... I just read about it. Absolutely incredible ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 25, 2019 #7 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, RoofGardener said: Yeah... I just read about it. Absolutely incredible ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine Holy crap!!! A Wiki page!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 25, 2019 #8 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Piney said: Holy crap!!! A Wiki page!!! I find it mind-boggling that people can actually build a fully-operational submersible, complete with environmental management (air purifiers/circulators), a dual diesel-electric hybrid drive, and the ability to dive to 20m and come back up again. It's just... mind boggling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 25, 2019 #9 Share Posted November 25, 2019 That's a lot of coke, but I like Pepsi better. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted November 25, 2019 #10 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Coast Guard intercepting a Narco Sub. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 25, 2019 #11 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RoofGardener said: they drove a 20m submarine across the Atlantic ??? I doubt that. Probably carried most of the way on a bigger ship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 25, 2019 #12 Share Posted November 25, 2019 So where the hell did they come from? I might expect it across the Straits of Gibraltar, but they'd have had to come some way to get to the north-western coast. Perhaps they were dropped off a larger ship somewhere offshore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 25, 2019 #13 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: So where the hell did they come from? Last I heard. Drug smuggling is a big thing in Atlantis. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 25, 2019 #14 Share Posted November 25, 2019 According to a reconstruction of events by the newspaper La Voz de Galicia, both the DEA and Portuguese investigators had information on the movements of the submarine, which they believe made a stopover in Cape Verde and was also detected on the coast of Portugal. Oh what rubbish. Cape Verde is 350 miles off the coast of Africa, and hundreds and hundreds of miles, probably thousands, to get right round Spain and Portugal. They're not trying to make us believe a 20 metre homemade contraption sailed there (and presumably, they're asking us to believe, sailed across the Atlantic to get to Cape Verde) under its owns team, do they? That's a feat of endurance that would put them among some of the greatest explorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 25, 2019 #15 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I suspect @OverSword has it right. The Sub was probably carried on a freighter most of the way across the Atlantic, and then lowered into the water by crane a few dozen miles off the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted November 26, 2019 #16 Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 hours ago, XenoFish said: That's a lot of coke, but I like Pepsi better. It's the "real" thing... Now imagine a mini dirty bomb if not a tiny nuke... ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted November 26, 2019 Author #17 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Some nice pics: http://www.hisutton.com/Narco Subs 101.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted November 26, 2019 #18 Share Posted November 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Eldorado said: Some nice pics: http://www.hisutton.com/Narco Subs 101.html They found bigfoot nArc sub :-D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 26, 2019 #19 Share Posted November 26, 2019 14 hours ago, RoofGardener said: Well, perhaps. But going up a coast is one thing. Going across the Atlantic is quite another. where are they getting these submarines FROM ? Who builds/sells them ? They're like semi subs in the sense that they can't fully dive but the majority of the vessel is below the water line with a snorkel and top hatch above the surface. Giving authorities only the smallest of tells. You're absolutely right in that the crossing across the Atlantic would be beyond the endurance of such a vessel. I's imagine they usually hitch a ride with a larger boat and disengage when close to shore and offload their cargo along the shoreline with smaller boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted November 26, 2019 #20 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain Risky said: They're like semi subs in the sense that they can't fully dive but the majority of the vessel is below the water line with a snorkel and top hatch above the surface. Giving authorities only the smallest of tells. You're absolutely right in that the crossing across the Atlantic would be beyond the endurance of such a vessel. I's imagine they usually hitch a ride with a larger boat and disengage when close to shore and offload their cargo along the shoreline with smaller boats. I dunno @Captain Risky. Accoring to this Wiki article, narco-subs have been found that are capable of diving to 20m, and are fully operational submarines !!!! Utterly remarkable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine#True_submarines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted November 27, 2019 #21 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) those are old semi submersible types, made for 1 trip only, i've seen a program on that on history channel, now cartels build fully submersible crafts , that they use more than once, they have former Russian submarine engineers working for them now, those subs will almost never be discovered in route, also after USSR brake up, some number of subs disappeared, coast guard thinks there is an extremely high probability, cartels use them, real military Russian subs. Edited November 27, 2019 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted November 28, 2019 Author #22 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Some more info... "The crew had apparently been travelling for more than 20 days, and had spent another seven waiting off Galicia’s coast in worsening weather for their cargo to be picked up. “Conditions at sea meant that the [craft] wasn’t able to deliver the drugs to a second vessel,” said a statement by the Guardia Civil." "The length of the journey means the craft would have had to have been refuelled as it crossed the ocean. As such, police are now expanding their investigation to potential accomplices." https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/how-narco-submarine-carrying-£85m-cocaine-was-captured-off-spain/ar-BBXrEUv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted November 28, 2019 #23 Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 12:52 PM, RoofGardener said: I find it mind-boggling that people can actually build a fully-operational submersible, complete with environmental management (air purifiers/circulators), a dual diesel-electric hybrid drive, and the ability to dive to 20m and come back up again. It's just... mind boggling. You need a refresher on the Cartel's success. They have enough cash flow to fund their own space program. This isnt a street level operation any more. Wildlife management regularly finds cartel grow ops deep in the California badlands. Two cartel guys will dig trenches and lay pipelines miles long and pack in all their equipment by themselves. Some of their operations are pretty impressive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 13, 2021 Author #24 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Homemade narco sub captured by Spanish police in international operation could carry 2,000kg of drugs Investigators believe the 30ft vessel, likened to an iceberg with most of it beneath the water, would be used to smuggle cocaine. Sky news report :-- March 13 3021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted March 15, 2021 #25 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Probably ferried across the Atlantic and dropped off the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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