Will Due Posted December 5, 2019 #551 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: More like probability and statistics, given the right criteria 'someone' would have done it. That's not really miraculous. cormac But if "someone" didn't do it, then it would definitely be miraculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted December 5, 2019 #552 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, OverSword said: Laws? Sure do. A law is simply a principle of how to act. So a worker Ant works, Army ant....ehh armies, the Queen Queens. So they are all living via laws. They punish the ones not pulling their weight. So yeah the have a system of law. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2019 #553 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, danydandan said: Sure do. A law is simply a principle of how to act. So a worker Ant works, Army ant....ehh armies, the Queen Queens. So they are all living via laws. They punish the ones not pulling their weight. So yeah the have a system of law. Who do you think wrote those laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted December 5, 2019 #554 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: But if "someone" didn't do it, then it would definitely be miraculous. But "someone" DID, WE outperformed our sister lineages. Homo sapiens sapiens didn't just appear from a vacuum. Again, nothing miraculous. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2019 #555 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: But "someone" DID, WE outperformed our sister lineages. Homo sapiens sapiens didn't just appear from a vacuum. Again, nothing miraculous. cormac Ok. Special then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #556 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: That's not what the Bible says in many places, as it gives God anthropomorphic features a "god" WOULD NOT need, so I'd say your assumption is in error. cormac Okay, I went and looked up the anthropomorphic descriptions of God and they seem like expressions of actions rather than an actual physical description. He stretched out his hands against Egypt, he sets his face against evil. God seems more spirit like to me. Edited December 5, 2019 by OverSword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #557 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, danydandan said: Sure do. A law is simply a principle of how to act. So a worker Ant works, Army ant....ehh armies, the Queen Queens. So they are all living via laws. They punish the ones not pulling their weight. So yeah the have a system of law. And so worker ant is an occupation and if they get tired of their job they can simply join the army huh? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted December 5, 2019 #558 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: Okay, I went and looked up the anthropomorphic descriptions of God and they seem like expressions of actions rather than an actual physical description. He stretched out his hands against Egypt, he sets his face against evil. God seems more spirit like to me. That's not what the ancient Hebrews/Israelites/Jews believed and that's THE ONLY perspective that really matters IMO. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted December 5, 2019 #559 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, OverSword said: And so worker ant is an occupation and if they get tired of their job they can simply join the army huh? Nope. It's more a kin to Hierarchical Socialism. Do what your told or death. It's still a civilisation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #560 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, danydandan said: It's more a kin to Hierarchical Socialism. Do what your told or death. It's still a civilisation. Do they kill the ones that don't function well or don't do their job? Ant's are amazing for sure but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted December 5, 2019 #561 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Will Due said: Ok. Special then. Which is open to interpretation. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 5, 2019 #562 Share Posted December 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, danydandan said: Ants do. And bees and wasps and termites 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2019 #563 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, RabidMongoose said: And bees and wasps and termites And the Mafia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 5, 2019 #564 Share Posted December 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, danydandan said: Sure do. A law is simply a principle of how to act. So a worker Ant works, Army ant....ehh armies, the Queen Queens. So they are all living via laws. They punish the ones not pulling their weight. So yeah the have a system of law. Ants have been shown to have cemeteries (a room they dump the dead in), to engage in animal husbandry (they look after and milk aphids), to farm (they grow fungus), and when they are severally injured in battle to choose death instead of burdening their society (ants without at least 2 limbs remaining refuse wound licking from their comrades). On top of that they have a hierarchical structure with biological differentiation resulting in different ants being specialised for different roles. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2019 #565 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Crooks have laws too. Why if you're a crook, their law says you will be paying them "taxes". If you want to be a crook that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted December 5, 2019 #566 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: Do they kill the ones that don't function well or don't do their job? Ant's are amazing for sure but come on. Cast out or death. They have civil wars, wars against other colonies. They kill the Queen if she ain't up to task. Ants.....a great bunch of lads. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #567 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, danydandan said: Cast out or death. They have civil wars, wars against other colonies. They kill the Queen if she ain't up to task. Ants.....a great bunch of lads. Only if they won't do they're job because they're ill. I think I'll keep them and bees and other related things off the list. Edited December 5, 2019 by OverSword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted December 5, 2019 #568 Share Posted December 5, 2019 You guys know that aliens may class this planet as having 5 civilizations. Humans, ants, bees, wasps, and termites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #569 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: You guys know that aliens may class this planet as having 5 civilizations. Humans, ants, bees, wasps, and termites. That will give them four interesting conversations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted December 5, 2019 #570 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Talking monkeys that build spaceships. Nothing out of the ordinary here, folks. Move along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted December 5, 2019 #571 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Talking monkeys Now you're talkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted December 5, 2019 #572 Share Posted December 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, OverSword said: That will give them four interesting conversations. I only know what David Attenborough told me. He said us and ants are considered to have a civilisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #573 Share Posted December 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, danydandan said: I only know what David Attenborough told me. He said us and ants are considered to have a civilisation. Never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted December 5, 2019 #574 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: Never heard of him. You are taking the p***......? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 5, 2019 #575 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, danydandan said: You are taking the p***......? You argued from authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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