How will Impeachment play out?

[Tatetopa]

30 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Trump is the nation’s chief law enforcement officer.  It is his job to root out corruption.  Biden is not above the law.

No doubt you have an explanation, but this seem inconsistent.

Biden you say is corrupt because he withheld aid until the Ukrainians fired a prosecutor, and YOU say he did it to protect his son.

The rest of the world  says he did it because the prosecutor was corrupt and not investigating corruption.  

Biden was acting as the Deputy Chief Law Enforcement Officer for the United States.  He was acting with approval of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States, the International Monetary Fund and the EU who were both also giving tons of money to Ukraine.  Can you produce a witness  who heard Biden say he was only doing it to protect his son?  You want to believe his guilt, bu you have no proof.

Trump on the other hand you say is not corrupt  though he withheld aid because YOU say he was wanting Ukraine to investigate corruption.  You have no proof of that either.

To the rest of the world, it seems like he was withholding aid to get a political favor.

You like Trump and you don't like Biden so you leave laws and the burden of proof behind and espouse favoritism.  That is the danger to the rule of law and our democracy.

 

[bee]

18 hours ago, skliss said:

I'm not one to change the names as people do, but yesterday my son and I were joking they should change their names to Dramacrats.  

 

Saw this and thought Tucker Carlson would agree with you and your son.... about the Dramacrats.. 

0:46.....

"...Democrats seemed dramatically insincere when they began this process some weeks ago,
and by yesterday they were every bit as fraudulent..."

(then there are clips of Democrats saying how sad they are about it all..... poor babies.... 
boo hoo.... they had 'no choice'..............)

 

 

~Tucker Carlson Tonight 12/19/19 | Breaking Fox News decemb­e­r 19, 2019~

 

[bee]

7 hours ago, F3SS said:

Such a somber moment huh?

Hacks

 

yes such a somber and sad moment... and the Oscar for best actor goes to..............................
.................................................................... *drum roll*........................................................
none of them because their acting was soooooooooo bad..

really bad and hopeless

 

[Farmer77]

4 minutes ago, bee said:

 

yes such a somber and sad moment... and the Oscar for best actor goes to..............................
.................................................................... *drum roll*........................................................
none of them because their acting was soooooooooo bad..

really bad and hopeless

 

LOL desperate much?

yes people tend to celebrate when the bad guys get their due. Regardless of how somber the process of getting there was.

[bee]

12 hours ago, and then said:

As they say... the best revenge is in winning.   

 

shall we have the Too Much Winning Video again.................... 

the more they try to crush him the more I love Trump....
and I bet you that's how lots of people feel, even ones who didn't think much of him at the
beginning of his Presidency...

 

 

[Farmer77]

Just now, bee said:

shall we have the Too Much Winning Video again.................... 

Donald Trump becomes third US president in history to be impeached

[bee]

4 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

LOL desperate much?

yes people tend to celebrate when the bad guys get their due. Regardless of how somber the process of getting there was.

 

yes the Democrats and their puppet masters backers are getting very desperate... 
 

everything they do falls flat... and it feels like this Impeachment sham will as well.....

 

[Farmer77]

4 minutes ago, bee said:

everything they do falls flat... and it feels like this Impeachment sham will as well.....

You do mean except for the part where Donald John Trump will forever be remembered as the third US President ever to be impeached right?

That , uh, didnt fall flat. No matter what else happens for all time when people say his name the word impeached will closely follow.

Edited December 20, 2019 by Farmer77

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

You do mean except for the part where Donald John Trump will forever be remembered as the third US President ever to be impeached right?

That , uh, didnt fall flat. No matter what else happens for all time when people say his name the word impeached will closely follow.

Unless someone pulls their finger out sharpish, DJT might be the first President to be Unimpeached.

[Farmer77]

2 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Unless someone pulls their finger out sharpish, DJT might be the first President to be Unimpeached.

What do you mean?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Just now, Farmer77 said:

What do you mean?

Didn’t someone here say that if they don’t punt the impeachment up to the Senate soon El Trumpo will be able to get the SC to annul the vote?

[bee]

12 hours ago, RabidMongoose said:

The Democrat premise is that because they are right about everything then no one of sound mind could possibly have voted Republican. Therefore they must have been manipulated by Trump or the Russians.

Its self-delusion and self-delusion doesnt work on the people who voted for Trump. What is going on with left-wing parties around the world? It seems like they have all gone delusional.

 

I have no hard and fast political affinities or tribal loyalties....

but on observation of it all I have to say that the 'left' (and I have friends on the left)......... are being
'played like a fiddle' - and are being sent crazy by the clever psychological operation being
rolled out 24/7 - world wide.... they are being targeted and don't even realize...

 

[Uncle Sam]

5 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Didn’t someone here say that if they don’t punt the impeachment up to the Senate soon El Trumpo will be able to get the SC to annul the vote?

Basically democrats refuse to give to senate and Supreme Court can annual the impeachment because it was a partisan action aka politics. Nancy Pelosi would do much better if she sent it to the senate instead of holding it back, holding it backs makes them look even worse.

[bee]

 

I think it's true to say that the Democrats have put themselves between a rock and a hard place... 

if they don't hand the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate the whole thing will be annulled -
but if they do there could be a very damaging 'trial' .... damaging for them....

(think I've got that right...)

 

[bee]

14 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Didn’t someone here say that if they don’t punt the impeachment up to the Senate soon El Trumpo will be able to get the SC to annul the vote?

 

I think someone (might have been RavenHawk) .... explained that Impeachment is a PROCESS
and not just a vote in the House.. and if the process isn't completed.....................

 

[+susieice]

Here's what I found. It has to go to the Senate though the Constitution doesn't really state how soon. It is a process.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-19/trump-impeachment-delay-could-be-serious-problem-for-democrats

Edited December 20, 2019 by susieice

[bee]

7 hours ago, acidhead said:

One of the D's witnesses in the Congressional Impeachment trial:

 

 

the thing about Impeachment being a 'process' was here.... thanks acidhead......

[bee]

4 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Holeee crap. I wandered around for 10 minutes and it felt like I was on a bad acid trip. These are seriously deluded, deranged, and sick people. It's a dystopic miasma of misery that pulses like an angry boil on humanities nether region. 

 

that's enough about the House Democrats ..... what about Qanon... ? ......

[Farmer77]

34 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Didn’t someone here say that if they don’t punt the impeachment up to the Senate soon El Trumpo will be able to get the SC to annul the vote?

Theres ALOT of disinformation out there.

From the link Susiece put up

Quote

The Constitution doesn’t say how fast the articles must go to the Senate. Some modest delay is not inconsistent with the Constitution, or how both chambers usually work.

 

In all honestly I think since congress is in recess there isnt even technically a delay beyond one day at this point and wont be until January 7th.

Edited December 20, 2019 by Farmer77

[bee]

On 12/19/2019 at 5:13 AM, Farmer77 said:

LOL I just popped into #qanon twitter and those folks are not taking it well

 

thanks.... just took a look and this was fun....

 

 

[ExpandMyMind]

8 minutes ago, susieice said:

Here's what I found. It has to go to the Senate though the Constitution doesn't really state how soon. It is a process.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-19/trump-impeachment-delay-could-be-serious-problem-for-democrats

It's almost like how a Supreme Court Judge seat being filled doesn't have a timeline for when. The irony.

[Farmer77]

3 minutes ago, bee said:

 

thanks.... just took a look and this was fun....

 

 

Glad I could help you find your people

[RoofGardener]

 

12 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

That's how a traditional court works.  I understand the impeachment process is a little bass ackwards by comparison.

I'd be interested to see where you got your information from.

Umm.. the constitution ? 

8 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

Dude no reason to yell, I would check my blood pressure if I were you.

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT I HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT <kaboom > . 

Oh blast, now my head has exploded. BAH !

6 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I guess I don't.  Did you write it on a laptop while sitting in a bierhalle in Munich?   Are you going to suggest Trump followers burn down Congress next?  That worked in the past.  Maybe you could suggest that to Boris too.

Funilly enough, our works christmas do tonight is in a Bierkeller in Nottingham. I shall take my laptop ! 

 

Is he ? I know he is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, but I don't believe he has any formal Law Enforcement function ? 

3 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Actually this is a very smart play to force the GOP to take it seriously. Now over the break all the media will be replaying McConnnels words saying he is working hand in hand with the WH and Graham saying he isnt an impartial juror.

Yeah still the whole  must have a public press conference announcing an investigation, NOT into corruption in general but into the Bidens specifically, shows its an abuse of office on his part.

I can't believe that Nancy Pelosi is actually DOING this.... delaying forwarding the articles of impeachment to the Senate. This smacks - to me - of absolute desperation. 

38 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

You do mean except for the part where Donald John Trump will forever be remembered as the third US President ever to be impeached right?

Indeed. And the third president to be acquitted by the Senate  

[bee]

On 12/19/2019 at 5:13 AM, Farmer77 said:

LOL I just popped into #qanon twitter and those folks are not taking it well

 

and I loved this..... 

 

 

[Farmer77]

Just now, RoofGardener said:

I can't believe that Nancy Pelosi is actually DOING this.... delaying forwarding the articles of impeachment to the Senate. This smacks - to me - of absolute desperation. 

It is desperation to defend the constitution. By doing so she is ensuring the nation knows if and when Trump gets acquitted in the Senate that it wasnt because of a fair trial based on facts but because of biased jurors.