onlookerofmayhem Posted January 25, 2020 #2351 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Crikey said: Just to digress slightly, do UM members think Jesus WAS God? NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crikey Posted January 25, 2020 #2352 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Crikey, come on now you can’t possibly believe a person can cure blindness by rubbing mud in their eyes. Sheesh. WE are made of mud ("dust to dust") so it was easy for JC to make new eyes from the stuff. PS- I got College of Preceptors exam passes in Science and Advanced Science years ago and went on to work in labs, so naturally the "Superscience" of the bible appeals to my scientific curiosity.. Edited January 25, 2020 by Crikey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2353 Share Posted January 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Habitat said: That rant has very little relevance to what I said, the fact remains that, at bottom, true religiosity has nothing to do with the adoration of human personalities like JC, in fact being wrapped up in the personality of another, any other, is an effective barrier to what I speak, these people stand as exemplars of the realisation of a potentiality inherent in all, and their message is intended to help others follow the path they followed, not follow them like a pet dog trundles after its master, because it is the master they want to be close to. That truly is, a childish thing. You know habs I see words of wisdom. The true wonder is the conciousness. It is astonishing one can even believe they talk to dead people and really think it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2354 Share Posted January 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Crikey said: WE are made of mud ("dust to dust") so it was easy for JC to make new eyes from the stuff. PS- I got College of Preceptors exam passes in Science and Advanced Science years ago and went on to work in labs, so naturally the "Superscience" of the bible appeals to my scientific curiosity.. Lol, I think you are bored. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2355 Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sherapy said: It is astonishing one can even believe they talk to dead people and really think it happened. I don't claim to speak to, or get answers from dead people, in the way you infer. But don't worry, I have certainly been in receipt of communication of various kinds. That you cannot allow such possibilities, is a limitation you have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2356 Share Posted January 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, onlookerofmayhem said: NO. Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2357 Share Posted January 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Rlyeh said: Jesus wouldn't want to upset the Romans. He mightn't have wanted to, but he did ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2358 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Habitat said: I don't claim to speak to, or get answers from dead people, in the way you infer. But don't worry, I have certainly been in receipt of communication of various kinds. That you cannot allow such possibilities, is a limitation you have. Of course, it is possible to believe this thanks to our brain. Your of the Rip Van Winkle bunch telling tales from the old days. You know when we used to think thunder was bowling in heaven and rain was god crying. IMHO You take things way to seriously. Lighten up Frances. Edited January 25, 2020 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2359 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, Sherapy said: Of course, it is possible to believe this thanks to your brain. Your of the Rip Van Winkle bunch telling tales from the old days. IMHO This just reflects your "attitude of the day" inconstancy. Today, you are lower on tolerance of "woo", than normal. I am not sure why you would bring my personal story into the subject here, when I had just finished saying that true religiosity is not a matter of focussing on human personalities, historical or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crikey Posted January 25, 2020 #2360 Share Posted January 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Lol, I think you are bored. Lol Nah, I'm looking forward to watching The Waltons on TV later- "The family are shocked when John-Boy admits to having a crush on the new older schoolmistress" Hmm sounds good, we all like milfs,, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2361 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sherapy said: You take things way to seriously. Lighten up Frances. Oh, I see, when you overstep the mark by saying I tell fibs, it is my fault for taking you seriously ? If you really aren't to be taken seriously, and I do, I guess that is my "fault" then ! Quite happy to err on that side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crikey Posted January 25, 2020 #2362 Share Posted January 25, 2020 SITREP- in answer to my question 'Was Jesus God'.. the answers in so far are- OnlookerofMayhem- NO Sherapy- NO. Anybody else care to step up to the plate with an answer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2363 Share Posted January 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Habitat said: This just reflects your "attitude of the day" inconstancy. Today, you are lower on tolerance of "woo", than normal. I am not sure why you would bring my personal story into the subject here, when I had just finished saying that true religiosity is not a matter of focussing on human personalities, historical or otherwise. It wasn’t personal to you it was a common example you are not the only one who may have thought dead people talk. Heck, I have brushed shoulders with hallucinations too in my lifetime, I was actually thinking about myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2364 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Habitat said: Oh, I see, when you overstep the mark by saying I tell fibs, it is my fault for taking you seriously ? If you really aren't to be taken seriously, and I do, I guess that is my "fault" then ! Quite happy to err on that side. Habbie you are taking things personal, not everything is about you boo boo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2365 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: Heck, I have brushed shoulders with hallucinations too in my lifetime I can't say I have experienced much at all of that genre, and certainly not in recent times. I don't "see things". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2366 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: Habbie you are taking things personal, not everything is about you boo boo. I have no idea why you are bringing a school of red herrings into the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2367 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Crikey said: Nah, I'm looking forward to watching The Waltons on TV later- "The family are shocked when John-Boy admits to having a crush on the new older schoolmistress" Hmm sounds good, we all like milfs,, Your alright Crikey, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2368 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Habitat said: I have no idea why you are bringing a school of red herrings into the discussion. We are good then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2369 Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Habitat said: I can't say I have experienced much at all of that genre, and certainly not in recent times. I don't "see things". More audio? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 25, 2020 #2370 Share Posted January 25, 2020 In all of Judea there were, probably, many Yeshua bar Yosefs Both were popular names.. Thus, Jesus existed. The question is, was one of them our Jesus? What if it was an alias? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted January 25, 2020 #2371 Share Posted January 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Crikey said: Anybody else care to step up to the plate with an answer? Wrong thread, we're all historians here, kinda; theologians not so much 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 25, 2020 #2372 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: In all of Judea there were, probably, many Yeshua bar Yosefs Both were popular names.. Thus, Jesus existed. The question is, was one of them our Jesus? What if it was an alias? Or a creation from the mind of a very clever, culturally savvy, and very educated man. Hands down he was a fascinating dude who had his fingers on the pulse of his culture. Perhaps a Steve Jobs of his day. Edited January 25, 2020 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crikey Posted January 25, 2020 #2373 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Regarding "speaking to the dead", I don't buy it because the "spirits" apparently just come out with unimportant guff. For example- MEDIUM AT SEANCE- "Is there anybody there?" VOICE- "Yes this is Albert" ALBERTS WIDOW- "Oh Albert, what divine message do you bring me from the great beyond?" ALBERT- "Buy your brussel sprouts at Tesco because they're cheaper there, keep an eye on the milkman because he's on the fiddle, and watch your step walking home down Saxby Street because the dog at number 19 has done a heap in the middle of the pavement" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crikey Posted January 25, 2020 #2374 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: In all of Judea there were, probably, many Yeshua bar Yosefs Both were popular names.. Thus, Jesus existed. The question is, was one of them our Jesus? What if it was an alias? There are many Elvis impersonators too, but only one is the real deal, right Elv? Edited January 25, 2020 by Crikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2020 #2375 Share Posted January 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sherapy said: More audio? You know, if you had been here when some of this stuff happened, I think your reactions might have been more interesting than what transpired ! And it was quite dramatic at times. The cat didn't come back upstairs for a week after one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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