Popular Post +and-then Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post #1 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I realize many here will potentially faint from the vapors over this topic but I'm serious. WHAT law has he broken? What has he done to harm freedom of the press? The economy is booming at a record rate. Employment is available for everyone who desires a job. It's like a scene from some surreal alternate world where GOOD is really BAD. Thankfully, they have been so blatant with their attacks and nonsense accusations that Independents are beginning to break increasingly for Trump. Polls that show all the Democrat candidates as more popular than Trump are laughable. Soooooo... cite the crimes. Cite the tyranny he has implemented against the press/media. Cite his wrongdoing by STATUTE. If you can't then maybe the problem isn't Trump. Maybe the problem is in the minds of those who openly hate the man. 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post #2 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Speaking as someone who lives in a country with an actually useless catch phrase sprouting plank of wood as Prime Minister, Trump has turned America into a laughing stock. Trump opens his mouth and pure WTF gushes forth. The wheels of governance have ground to a halt under Trump, not entirely his fault but certsinly someone who can play the game of politics could get things down. I reiterate - did The leaders of NATO nations ever make jokes openly at the expense of Bush or Clinton? Yuo csn’t blame the Dems for that. 7 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post +Not A Rockstar Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post #3 Share Posted December 8, 2019 What we cannot readily survive for another 4 years is the never ending hatred and efforts to impede and derail governance in defiance of the lawful vote. They had no clue how the silent masses of despicables out here felt in 2016 and got surprised. They have done nothing to change their ignorance of us since. But, I can tell you it is real ugly out here under the surface and we have almost had enough. If not Trump, not one of the dem candidates have anything worthwhile to offer. Biden might be bearable, as a conservative dem, except he is essentially sliding into some mental flaws that go with aging as near and kindly as I can assess just reading and watching him. Nobody else is really centrist enough, and if Hillary thinks she sees this and will jump in as the centrist of choice at the last minute, that will be ugly and we WILL see Trump winning in 2020, I imagine. I feel very uneasy about the coming elections, and do a lot of praying, as there is literally nothing else that will help the profound anger among many of the people away from the big metro areas the dems think is the very pulse of the Nation. I do not know what the answer is. But this quid pro quo weeping and wailing is a complete farse and joke. Politics = quid pro quo. EVERYONE there in DC works by it. Do this for me and I will sign that, vote for this and I will support you in that. It will never fly with me as valid evil, and legitimately scandalizing to these hypocrits claiming it against him as if he murdered babies or said something nice again about Putin. They are accusing a fellow for firing a weapon on a battlefield full of smoke from shooters. That is how I see it, try as I might to see anything else. I do not adore Trump. I deeply dislike his environmental policies and my lingering sense he backstabbed the kurds. But, as a retired cop, the charge has to be clear and plainly a violation. I also had to maintain a very high level of law abidingness above the average to even BE a deputy sheriff charging anyone with a crime. I'd lose my badge if I was a louse, many did on our department for doing things wrongly or being dirty. A LOT of folks need to be losing their "badges" in DC. As in, like 90% of them. JMO, as an Independent, kinda liberal conservative sort. 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, and then said: I realize many here will potentially faint from the vapors over this topic but I'm serious. WHAT law has he broken? What has he done to harm freedom of the press? The economy is booming at a record rate. Employment is available for everyone who desires a job. It's like a scene from some surreal alternate world where GOOD is really BAD. Thankfully, they have been so blatant with their attacks and nonsense accusations that Independents are beginning to break increasingly for Trump. Polls that show all the Democrat candidates as more popular than Trump are laughable. Soooooo... cite the crimes. Cite the tyranny he has implemented against the press/media. Cite his wrongdoing by STATUTE. If you can't then maybe the problem isn't Trump. Maybe the problem is in the minds of those who openly hate the man. Trump has turned America into a Laughing Stock, Trump speaks and the World Laughs. What has he done from a military stand point? Appease a fat little dictator, who writes him beautiful letters, attack an airbase with millions in Crusie Missiles after he told the Russians in advance in Syria the attack was coming and when, and puts his head up Putins bum every chance he gets. Last but not least the Ukraine where he uses leverage to get information on a political rival, well we can say this he was the first President caught doing so. This dude is a train wreck destroying America from within, by using factions to confront factions, our country is so racially charged it may soon explode thanks to Humpty Trumpty. He has destroyed our relationships with our old allies, and made no new allies it appears he wants America to stand alone. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Speaking as someone who lives in a country with an actually useless catch phrase sprouting plank of wood as Prime Minister, Trump has turned America into a laughing stock. Trump opens his mouth and pure WTF gushes forth. The wheels of governance have ground to a halt under Trump, not entirely his fault but certsinly someone who can play the game of politics could get things down. I reiterate - did The leaders of NATO nations ever make jokes openly at the expense of Bush or Clinton? Yuo csn’t blame the Dems for that. Ah yes...NATO...you didn't hear Bush saying they needed to pay their fair share? You didn't...because he didn't. Ditto Clinton. Trump said they were abusing their privileges and they are. That's why they hate him. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Manwon Lender said: Trump has turned America into a Laughing Stock No...he has turned the Democrat Party into a laughing stock...get a clue my friend. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Not A Rockstar said: What we cannot readily survive for another 4 years is the never ending hatred and efforts to impede and derail governance in defiance of the lawful vote 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, and then said: Maybe the problem is in the minds of those who openly hate the man. Noticing that no one listed any crimes. Also noticing that your 'headline' is wrong...no problem...I will fix it for free: Pelosi: U.S. can't survive 2 terms of Trump 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, joc said: No...he has turned the Democrat Party into a laughing stock...get a clue my friend. I live and travel overseas, and the first thing people ask about Humpty Trumpty is does he have Alzheimer's or is just mentally deficient it truly embarrassing. In my entire life I have not seen so many people from around the globe make jokes and laugh openly about an American President. So please you get a clue, if you had more exposure except online you would understand clearly how he is viewed. Edited December 8, 2019 by Manwon Lender 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Manwon Lender said: I live and travel overseas, and the first thing people ask about Humpty Trumpty is does he have Alzheimer's or is just mentally deficient it truly embarrassing. In my entire life I have not seen so many people from around the globe make jokes and laugh openly about an American President. So please you get a clue, if you had more exposure except online you would understand clearly how he is viewed. It is not my fault if the rest of the civilized Western World has bought into the Media Narrative. What do you expect though? They bought into socialism. Ask them how they like that! Fly to Venezuela much? Didn't think so. When you fly to Paris...do you actually walk the streets with the 'people' of France? Didn't think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, joc said: Ah yes...NATO...you didn't hear Bush saying they needed to pay their fair share? You didn't...because he didn't. Ditto Clinton. Trump said they were abusing their privileges and they are. That's why they hate him. They hate him because they are embarrassed by his actions. He acts like he knows more than anyone on any subject. He listens to knowone because he has a big brain. He disregards the heads of the Us Military in favor of his lack of knowledge on the subject. The only thing he has accomplished to date is a major lack of unity Nation wide, but I suppose that's something. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 8, 2019 #12 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, joc said: It is not my fault if the rest of the civilized Western World has bought into the Media Narrative. What do you expect though? They bought into socialism. Ask them how they like that! Fly to Venezuela much? Didn't think so. When you fly to Paris...do you actually walk the streets with the 'people' of France? Didn't think so. Yes, that’s right. Everyone else is wrong. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted December 8, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Oh, yes, the overseas crowd were so polite and respectful and noncritical of America before Trump. What a crock. Trump supporters love that he gives you doses of your own medicine right in your leader's pompous, leering little faces. Thy don't care if you laugh at Trump; they've been sniggering and giggling at you for years. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #14 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Yes, that’s right. Everyone else is wrong. Whatever helps you sleep at night. You seem to think I give a damn about what the rest of the world thinks about America...WE DON'T!! God save the Queen! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #15 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, joc said: It is not my fault if the rest of the civilized Western World has bought into the Media Narrative. What do you expect though? They bought into socialism. Ask them how they like that! Fly to Venezuela much? Didn't think so. When you fly to Paris...do you actually walk the streets with the 'people' of France? Didn't think so. Where ever I go I walk the streets with the people of that country, I don't get my information off the internet like you. Oh and by the way I will back in France next month, as for Venezuela maybe that's a better place for you to go to like you most don't have TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Oh, yes, the overseas crowd were so polite and respectful and noncritical of America before Trump. What a crock. Trump supporters love that he gives you doses of your own medicine right in your leader's pompous, leering little faces. Thy don't care if you laugh at Trump; they've been sniggering and giggling at you for years. No but they have been snickering and laughing at people like you, they call them the rude and ignorant Americans. But Trumpty Dumpty is the first President that is openli laughed at, by the people and their leaders world wide. Edited December 8, 2019 by Manwon Lender 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted December 8, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Hammerclaw said: Oh, yes, the overseas crowd were so polite and respectful and noncritical of America before Trump. I'd post some Little Britain USA links, but its against forum rules. But there is reason when in Europe I kept my Bronte Country cranked up and my stepsister completely avoids speaking English. Americans are impolite, arrogant pricks when they have no right. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted December 8, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: I live and travel overseas, and the first thing people ask about Humpty Trumpty is does he have Alzheimer's or is just mentally deficient it truly embarrassing. In my entire life I have not seen so many people from around the globe make jokes and laugh openly about an American President. That's funny. Seven years ago, when we were in Ireland, everyone from the cab drivers to cashiers asked us what we thought of Obama, seeing we are Americans. Most of them seemed relieved they could voice their opinion, after my brother-in-law expressed his disapproval. At first, I was embarrassed when he was so blatant and willing to say exactly what was on his mind. After a while, I was amused people seemed so relieved to be able to say what was on their mind. They largely agreed with him and had a few rants of their own. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted December 8, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: No but they have been snickering and laughing at people like you, they call them the rude and ignorant Americans. But Trumpty Dumpty is the first President that is openli laughed at, by the people and their leaders. Of course he isn't. I've read enough of your press to give that the lie. Trumps problem with your leaders is his diplomatic lack of tact and painful honesty and his followers couldn't care less. The American President was like the King in New Clothes you jollied along for your own benefit. Trump comes fully clothed and not at all a bit jolly. Hard to treat a man like that as the faux "Emperor of the Free World". Edited December 8, 2019 by Hammerclaw 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #20 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: Trumpty Dumpty is the first President that is openli laughed at, by the people and their leaders world wide. Oh! i didn't know that..I could have sworn Reagan was the first, followed by Both Bushes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #21 Share Posted December 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Oh, yes, the overseas crowd were so polite and respectful and noncritical of America before Trump. What a crock. Trump supporters love that he gives you doses of your own medicine right in your leader's pompous, leering little faces. Thy don't care if you laugh at Trump; they've been sniggering and giggling at you for years. sniff...sniff...mmmm..T bone! I thought I smelled something good on the grill.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #22 Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, joc said: Oh! i didn't know that..I could have sworn Reagan was the first, followed by Both Bushes! Yea see that's why keeping up to date with no TV, no internet, and with all your information coming by Crow just doesn't work for normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 8, 2019 #23 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: Yea see that's why keeping up to date with no TV, no internet, and with all your information coming by Crow just doesn't work for normal people. I'm not normal people. First to admit that. I watched JFK get shot on TV while my mother was standing there watching with me. I have 'lived' the life you all preach about with such passion and uninformity. Try again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 8, 2019 #24 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, joc said: I'm not normal people. First to admit that. I watched JFK get shot on TV while my mother was standing there watching with me. I have 'lived' the life you all preach about with such passion and uninformity. Try again. I also watched the death of JFK, and how you live your life matters not to me. It should only matter to you and yours. I never preach to anyone about my life and could careless about your passion or uniformity. You could live in a Cardboard box as far as I care, if that makes you happy go far it. Edited December 8, 2019 by Manwon Lender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 8, 2019 #25 Share Posted December 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: Where ever I go I walk the streets with the people of that country, I don't get my information off the internet like you. Oh and by the way I will back in France next month, as for Venezuela maybe that's a better place for you to go to like you most don't have TV. I would be careful in France. Just a bit of warning. Macron has enough problems of his own going on. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/france-braces-severe-disruption-mass-strike-protests-over-pensions-n1096316 https://www.*** blocked ***/news/world/1214334/France-strikes-riot-Paris-Nantes-Emmanuel-macron-yellow-vests 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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