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Pelosi: U.S. can't survive 2 terms of Trump

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RoofGardener
11 minutes ago, acute said:

Another poll had it at 18% / 76%.

 

Most of the world outside of the USA is both laughing at Trump and horrified by him, in equal measure.

We feel sorry for the division he has caused, and his policy of isolating America and threatening alliances in the West.

Those who support Trump really do watch Fox News only, and don't know what's going on in the real world.

Not so. I watch the BBC News every day. (well, listen to it, anyway). 

It seems I'm in a minority in believing that people are NOT laughing at Trump, or that he is making America look bad. But there you have it. 

I still think that - by any objective standard - Nancy Pelosi's comments about "the US not surviving a second term" are hysterical bordering on clinical neurosis. If she REALLY believes that, then she has lost all sense of perspective, to say nothing of reality. 

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Helen of Annoy
7 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

He might've said "Sergi" instead of "Sergio". But, he wasn't slurring his words - at least nowhere near as Nancy in the OP.

I'd put it down to a New York thing.

I believe the particular infection that can do that to human brain in late stages is not endemic to New York :D 

That's not the main issue here, though it's relatively unsettling to know that there's something obviously wrong with a guy who was supposed to be the president of the US, especially since he has no administration that could prevent him from, for example, stealing pages from Mussolini's book, in front of Italian president, no less. 

It's so tragicomic... if this whole hilarious grotesque with Trump was a screenplay, people would laugh too but they'd say it's just too bizarre and unconvincing. 

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aztek
22 minutes ago, acute said:

Another poll had it at 18% / 76%.

 

Most of the world outside of the USA is both laughing at Trump and horrified by him, in equal measure.

We feel sorry for the division he has caused, and his policy of isolating America and threatening alliances in the West.

Those who support Trump really do watch Fox News only, and don't know what's going on in the real world.

lamo, you got it all backwards buddy.  those who support trump, live here, and see things with their own eyes, you , otoh do not, and  swallow what mem feeds you.

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another thing brainwashed liberals do not get, (and why would they , they don't think, they just swallow msm garbage) we are not so much supporting trump himself,  as we support anti liberal agenda, no matter who is behind it,  we are anti pelosi, anti schumer, and their ilk, 

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joc
3 minutes ago, aztek said:

another thing brainwashed liberals do not get, (and why would they , they don't think, they just swallow msm garbage) we ate not so much supporting trump himself,  as we support anti liberal agenda, no matter who is behind it,  we are anti pelosi, anti schumer, and their ilk, 

And....here is the whole bottle of rub right here...we support us!  And Trump supports us.  And we are all one big happy American family.  Except for those who decry capitalism, and have bought and paid for the socialist agenda's all over the world.

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Helen of Annoy
7 minutes ago, aztek said:

another thing brainwashed liberals do not get, (and why would they , they don't think, they just swallow msm garbage) we are not so much supporting trump himself,  as we support anti liberal agenda, no matter who is behind it,  we are anti pelosi, anti schumer, and their ilk, 

What's msm? Another American tribal thing? 

Anyway, when sane people around the world are laughing at you, it's because you are leaving laughable impression, not because everyone sane is liberal. Though it often goes together. 

 

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XenoFish
1 minute ago, Helen of Annoy said:

What's msm?

I think he means MSNBC a "news" provider. 

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Eldorado
3 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

I think he means MSNBC a "news" provider. 

MSM = Mainstream media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_media

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XenoFish
2 minutes ago, Eldorado said:

Thanks. It's all propaganda to me. This is clown world after all. 

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ExpandMyMind
1 hour ago, Golden Duck said:

The definition was changed sometime after Trump started calling every story he disagreed with 'Fake News!'. I'm not even kidding or backtracking here. I have documented the change on this site, as it has unfolded, in many posts. It's actually a particular go-to rant of mine, because it p***es me off so much.

The original modern definition (with particular regards to social media) was Facebook and Twitter users who create a fake news story and lay it on the background of Fox or NYT or something. It's literal fake news, masquerading as a legitimate story from an established news outlet in order to fool people into trusting the message. That's the proper definition.

It has never applied, until 2016, to actual, legitimate news outlets. That was entirely brought in by Trump to discredit anything he disagreed with. Due to the collective stupidity of many people, left and right, it has caught on and is now actually seen by many as a legitimate criticism of any news story that people don't like. Don't agree with something? Fake News. You don't even need to read it, just say, 'CNN, Fake News' and you're automatically "right". 

It's basically another version of 'literally'. No matter how many times you tell me that literally also now means figuratively (the actual dictionary updated the change), it just bloody doesn't. I don't care how many stupid people use it interchangeably, I'll never accept it. Literally does not mean the exact opposite of its intended definition. The same as Fake News doesn't mean the exact opposite of its intended definition (real news), no matter how many idiots say so.

It is so, soooo ****ing stupid.

Edit to add - Ooft. /endRant.

I think my neighbours hear me smashing my keyboard there. This particular subject makes me unreasonably mad and I could feel myself gradually Hulkifying as I was typing. So, I've decided I'm going to take a break for the rest of the day

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ExpandMyMind
6 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Thanks. It's all propaganda to me. This is clown world after all. 

Everything MSM publishes is propaganda?

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XenoFish
Just now, ExpandMyMind said:

Everything MSM publishes is propaganda?

Someone's trying to sell you on something. I don't trust media, the government, or local government. Yeah, I might be a bit paranoid. 

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ExpandMyMind
1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

Someone's trying to sell you on something. I don't trust media, the government, or local government. Yeah, I might be a bit paranoid. 

Fair enough. I used to feel the same way, to be honest. Now, not so much. When it comes to corporate interests and war, sure, the media will always be suspect. But as it relates to general news and information, it's largely trustworthy. 

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joc
10 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

It has never applied, until 2016, to actual, legitimate news outlets. That was entirely brought in by Trump to discredit anything he disagreed with.

It was entirely brought in by Trump because with every breath they lied about him...lie...lie...lie!

We already know you think we are stupid.  The mirror is a funny thing.

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joc
Just now, ExpandMyMind said:

Fair enough. I used to feel the same way, to be honest. Now, not so much. When it comes to corporate interests and war, sure, the media will always be suspect. But as it relates to general news and information, it's largely trustworthy. 

it's largely UN trustworthy. 

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joc
21 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Anyway, when sane people around the world are laughing at you, it's because you are leaving laughable impression, not because everyone sane is liberal. Though it often goes together.

For many in the world..the definition of Sanity = Socialism.  For most of us here in the good ole USA...  Insanity = Socialism.  

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XenoFish
1 minute ago, ExpandMyMind said:

When it comes to corporate interests

That's why I don't trust the media. Local stuff is just local garbage. Around here it's drug bust or a shooting over drugs. Maybe the occasional "dumb redneck". When it comes to the big media outlets, nope. Not trust whatsoever. I've had to be mentally assaulted by the media since Trump went into office, impeach, impeach, impeach, why not actually help the man instead of crying about him. Us vs Them. Which is why I hate politics more than I do religion. And it's also the reason I rarely hit this section of UM. 

From what I can tell, the government/s work for themselves. Not the people. I think the people are starting to get sick of government. 

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ExpandMyMind
3 minutes ago, joc said:

It was entirely brought in by Trump because with every breath they lied about him...lie...lie...lie!

We already know you think we are stupid.  The mirror is a funny thing.

 

3 minutes ago, joc said:

it's largely UN trustworthy. 

Thanks. I mean, it's barely been 10 minutes and you've proved my point. You could hardly have been any more timelier.

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ExpandMyMind
1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

From what I can tell, the government/s work for themselves. Not the people. I think the people are starting to get sick of government. 

Bernie 2020.

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XenoFish
1 minute ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Bernie 2020.

Sorry you've got the wrong person. Bernie-boy isn't here anymore. I don't support any form of government. I don't like people telling me what I can and can't do. I already get gutted in taxes due to self employment and it was a massive pain to build my cabin legally. I've learned that all forms of authority are just accepted illusion, possibly delusions. In other words; none of it is real. We just pretend it is. 

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aztek

i notice vast majority of trump haters here are foreigners,  they don't live in usa, do  not know a thing about usa that does not come from msm,  which  95%+  controlled by liberals,  it went into overdrive mode after 2016, cuz trump is a real threat to THEM, not to america,  

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joc
11 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

They hate him because they are embarrassed by his actions. He acts like he knows more than anyone on any subject. He listens to knowone because he has a big brain. He disregards the heads of the Us Military in favor of his lack of knowledge  on the subject. The only thing he has accomplished to date is a major lack of unity Nation wide, but I suppose that's something.

You are talking about Obama right?

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joc
35 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Bernie 2020.

Thank you for making MY point.  Socialism.   

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joc
32 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

I've learned that all forms of authority are just accepted illusion, possibly delusions. In other words; none of it is real. We just pretend it is. 

What he said!

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F3SS
11 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

No but they have been snickering and laughing at people like you, they call them the rude and ignorant Americans. But Trumpty Dumpty is the first President that is openli laughed at, by the people and their leaders world wide.

The people laughing and snickering are calling us rude. Tell me again why I should care?

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