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Christian Zionist control of President Trump

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Manwon Lender

Let me start by saying there is another big problem facing all Americans that is hidden in plain sight. This is a religious agenda that is obviously effecting our Presidents Middle Eastern policies. President Trump been influenced by the Christian Zionist Far Right. The move of the Embassy to Jerusalem, his current policies concerning Iran, his announcement that Jerusalem is Israels capital, his refusal to condemn White Supremacists and their actions. Currently known Christian Zionists working directly with President Trumps Cabinet would include, VP Mike Pence, The Secretary of State Mike Pompe, and President Trumps Relgious advisers Pastor John Hague and Robert Jefress.

The Christian Zionist movement in America has grown to multiple Millions of Americans. However, their true agenda is not openly known to mainstream America. While these people are Christian by belief their actions are not. They call themselves Christian Zionist because of their support for Israel, which on the surface sounds wonderful, but the things Americans don't see or really hear much about is the antisemitic views they attempt to hide.

Christian Zionists beleive that in order for the second coming of Jesus to occur the Jewish people must return to Israel and occupy all the lands God gave them as outlined in the New Testament. Only then can Jesus return and Armageddon occur, which their goal. This is why they support Israel and the Jewish people. To Christian Zionists the Jewish people are canon fodder to make these events occur, and by the mouth of their leadership the Jewish people will burn in hell for their Beliefs.

Pastor John Hagee as openly stated that Hitler was sent by God to create the Holocuast so that the surviving Jewish people would flock to the New State of Israel for protection.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/israel-embassy-pastor-said-hitler-was-sent-by-god.html

Pastor Robert Jefress says that all Jewish Americans who vote for Democrates will Burn in the Fires of Hell.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/08/trumps-pastor-robert-jeffress-god-will-curse-jews-who-vote-for-democrats/q

Both these Pastors were invited to Jerusalem by President Trump for the opening of the New Embassy and they gave the opening and closing prays / statements.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/world/middleeast/robert-jeffress-embassy-jerusalem-us.html

This is only the tip of an Iceberg concerning the Christian Zionist movement, agenda, and strong influence in the White House and with President Trump personally.

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Dumbledore the Awesome

The previous one having disappeared into the black hole, you're not letting this subject go then?

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Robotic Jew

It's a subject definitely worthy of discussion. Religion has exactly 0 place in our government or the way we make or adopt policy. 

 

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darkmoonlady

I don't know why anyone would dispute this, it's not a conspiracy theory. The ties to the GOP and Evangelical power base are common knowledge, Pence is a self described Dominionist, and Trump has happily embraced money from Evangelical CPACs. Like it's not a secret they are on the same team. Evangelical support of Isreal is a given in that they want to have everything in line for the end times, they fully believe in, I mean have you seen the Left Behind series? The base of Trumps voters who identify as Evangelical see him as sent by god. Trump couldn't find Isreal on a map with Dora the Explorer helping...he could care less about that stuff and whatever foreign policy changes made supporting Israel are not at his behest. Oh I'm sure he'd love to see a Trump Tower built on Jesuses tomb but other than that nope not on his radar.

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Manwon Lender
9 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

The previous one having disappeared into the black hole, you're not letting this subject go then?

This is not a subject that can be let go it affects my Country politically and the American people. The other thread was on Antisemitism and while Christian Zionists share that this thread is about how our President is being controlled by these people.

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Dumbledore the Awesome

I'm not disputing that, I think without a doubt there is a foreign power that has a hold over the US President and his Administration, and it's based in a rather warmer climate than Moscow, but this whole subject seems to generate loss of tempers and bad language, doesn't it. 

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Manwon Lender
11 minutes ago, darkmoonlady said:

I don't know why anyone would dispute this, it's not a conspiracy theory. The ties to the GOP and Evangelical power base are common knowledge, Pence is a self described Dominionist, and Trump has happily embraced money from Evangelical CPACs. Like it's not a secret they are on the same team. Evangelical support of Isreal is a given in that they want to have everything in line for the end times, they fully believe in, I mean have you seen the Left Behind series? The base of Trumps voters who identify as Evangelical see him as sent by god. Trump couldn't find Isreal on a map with Dora the Explorer helping...he could care less about that stuff and whatever foreign policy changes made supporting Israel are not at his behest. Oh I'm sure he'd love to see a Trump Tower built on Jesuses tomb but other than that nope not on his radar.

There is a difference between evangelical Christians and Christian Zionists while they do share the same base, the Zionists are far far far right. 

Thanks for your comments

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Manwon Lender
13 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

I'm not disputing that, I think without a doubt there is a foreign power that has a hold over the US President and his Administration, and it's based in a rather warmer climate than Moscow, but this whole subject seems to generate loss of tempers and bad language, doesn't it. 

That loss of tempers and language may or may not be controlled, but as an American it's my duty to expose this control in the White House. If your country was in a similar state, wouldn't you want to expose it.

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darkmoonlady
4 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

There is a difference between evangelical Christians and Christian Zionists while they do share the same base, the Zionists are far far far right. 

Thanks for your comments

Right but their money is still going to the same place..

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Manwon Lender
4 minutes ago, darkmoonlady said:

Right but their money is still going to the same place..

That is very true, thanks for correcting me on that, I appreciate it.

thanks again

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Manwon Lender
29 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said:

It's a subject definitely worthy of discussion. Religion has exactly 0 place in our government or the way we make or adopt policy. 

 

It certainly is because their is suppose to be a separation between Church and State. But if people don't wake up this Christian Zionist influence will have us at War with Iran, and much larger conflicts in Palestine. This is all part of their agenda, and President Trump is supporting it with policies that support that agenda.

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Robotic Jew
7 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

It certainly is because their is suppose to be a separation between Church and State. But if people don't wake up this Christian Zionist influence will have us at War with Iran, and much larger conflicts in Palestine. This is all part of their agenda, and President Trump is supporting it with policies that support that agenda.

Not much can be done. Religion is destined to be what leads humanity to destroy itself. 

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Manwon Lender
30 minutes ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

I'm not disputing that, I think without a doubt there is a foreign power that has a hold over the US President and his Administration, and it's based in a rather warmer climate than Moscow, but this whole subject seems to generate loss of tempers and bad language, doesn't it. 

But your right the attacks have already starting look at the post Buzz lightner sent to me telling me to go to a different forum. One thing I will say is I am not going to respond to attacks in like kind.

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Manwon Lender
2 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said:

Not much can be done. Religion is destined to be what leads humanity to destroy itself. 

Yes that's true, but that religious destruction should not come from the White House supported by our President.

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Not A Rockstar
1 hour ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

I think without a doubt there is a foreign power that has a hold over the US President and his Administration, and it's based in a rather warmer climate than Moscow,

This would fit more readily IMO. More than anything else, SA needs Iran tuned way down. They need it bad enough to potentially shift into supporting a peace deal with Israel, at least for now.

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Piney
1 hour ago, Robotic Jew said:

Not much can be done. Religion is destined to be what leads humanity to destroy itself. 

I've said it before here. It's the next "Great Filter" that might catch us.

Some background links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Palestinian Christians are against it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Christian_Zionism

The Church of Scotland was against it but had to back off because of anti-Semitism accusations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland#%22The_Inheritance_of_Abraham:_A_Report_on_the_'Promised'_Land%22

 

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Manwon Lender
26 minutes ago, Not A Rockstar said:

This would fit more readily IMO. More than anything else, SA needs Iran tuned way down. They need it bad enough to potentially shift into supporting a peace deal with Israel, at least for now.

Thanks for you thoughts, you may be right. However, I do clearly see the threat that White House control  by Christian Zionists are causing. Their agenda is pushing us to a Possible War with Iran and further hostility on the West Bank. President Trump whether knowingly or not is supporting an agenda by His religious advisers to intentional cause conflict in the Middle East. 

Relgion and State are suppose to be separated however, all the Presidents current polices concerning Israel and Iran show that isn't happening. We are both old soldiers, who truly care about those who are following our service. We also both know how the Non-Combat Armchaired Politicians including our President dont have any true considerations for our soldiers, to them we are all Meat Shields which can be easily replaced with fresh meat.

When our soldiers are being used for an agenda other than National Security, there can be nothing worst especially when there is certainly influences from a far far right religious element such as the Christian Zionists.

Sorry we don't agree but, you have my respect all the same

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Manwon Lender
35 minutes ago, Piney said:

I've said it before here. It's the next "Great Filter" that might catch us.

Some background links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Palestinian Christians are against it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Christian_Zionism

The Church of Scotland was against it but had to back off because of anti-Semitism accusations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland#%22The_Inheritance_of_Abraham:_A_Report_on_the_'Promised'_Land%22

 

Those are some great links Piney, thanks for your post.

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Manwon Lender
37 minutes ago, Piney said:

I've said it before here. It's the next "Great Filter" that might catch us.

Some background links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Palestinian Christians are against it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Christian_Zionism

The Church of Scotland was against it but had to back off because of anti-Semitism accusations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland#%22The_Inheritance_of_Abraham:_A_Report_on_the_'Promised'_Land%22

 

Those are some great links Piney, thanks for your post.

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Not A Rockstar
4 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Sorry we don't agree but, you have my respect all the same

ditto. We do not agree on this, but, there are a lot of other things to talk about.

Have a good one.

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Manwon Lender
8 hours ago, Robotic Jew said:

Not much can be done. Religion is destined to be what leads humanity to destroy itself. 

Your certainly right, unless the negative parts of it are identified and destroyed first. That's what this thread is all about keeping the Christian Zionists out front not hidden in the shadows. The American People need to know who they are and what they do, especially how they love to preach hate in the in the back ground, while hidden in plain sight. 

My next speaking engagement on hidden groups within society and government, I am going have a question and answer portion that identifies this group. There is no better way to expose it than to educate people on the subject.

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Manwon Lender
6 hours ago, Piney said:

I've said it before here. It's the next "Great Filter" that might catch us.

Some background links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Palestinian Christians are against it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Christian_Zionism

The Church of Scotland was against it but had to back off because of anti-Semitism accusations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland#%22The_Inheritance_of_Abraham:_A_Report_on_the_'Promised'_Land%22

 

It amazing the more I delve into this subject the more shocking it really is. These people support White Supremacy, and antisemitism openly and our sitting President and Vice President, along with the Secretary of State, support them to the wall. I don't understand why others haven't seen this trend and remarked about it. This crap needs to be exposed for what it is.

Sad stuff Dude.

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acidhead
56 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

It amazing the more I delve into this subject the more shocking it really is. These people support White Supremacy, and antisemitism openly and our sitting President and Vice President, along with the Secretary of State, support them to the wall. I don't understand why others haven't seen this trend and remarked about it. This crap needs to be exposed for what it is.

Sad stuff Dude.

This is the same conspiracy theory former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke is preaching to his followers on Twitter everyday.  

I posted a recent twitter post from him earlier today to prove it but it's vanished like it should have yet this thread hasn't been sent to the conspiracy section.

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Manwon Lender
6 hours ago, acidhead said:

This is the same conspiracy theory former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke is preaching to his followers on Twitter everyday.  

I posted a recent twitter post from him earlier today to prove it but it's vanished like it should have yet this thread hasn't been sent to the conspiracy section.

Because it's not a conspiracy, it's very factual. That's why it's still here and it will continue to be here. Oh and thanks for reminding me, David Duke is a strong supporter of Christian Zionism, and he also strongly supports President Trump. Matter of fact our President excepted campaign donations from the Imperial Wizard, then when confronted never denounced the act or the source of the donations.

Kinda funny right, or actually kinda normal in this case, because according to President Trump their are good people on both sides, Mr Duke must be one of them that President Trump was speaking about.

Sorry to disappoint. 

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Manwon Lender
21 hours ago, Piney said:

I've said it before here. It's the next "Great Filter" that might catch us.

Some background links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Palestinian Christians are against it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Declaration_on_Christian_Zionism

The Church of Scotland was against it but had to back off because of anti-Semitism accusations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland#%22The_Inheritance_of_Abraham:_A_Report_on_the_'Promised'_Land%22

 

Here's a good link concerning the Anti-Semitic theology of Christian  Zionist beliefs.

https://religionnews.com/2019/07/08/the-anti-semitic-theology-behind-the-christian-zionist-lobby/

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