UM-Bot Posted December 12, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 12, 2019 A couple from Mesa recently recorded footage of a mysterious object dropping glowing orbs over the city. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/332900/ufo-filmed-dropping-fireballs-over-arizona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted December 12, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) https://www.aopa.org/-/media/Files/AOPA/Home/Pilot-Resources/Safety-and-Proficiency/Operations/Lights-Out-Approved-Military-Operations-Areas/sa21.pdf Apparently lights are NOT required at all times. Just a few military bases nearby:HERE Flares. Edited December 12, 2019 by esoteric_toad 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 12, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I thought it was only off reservation that they needed civilian lights on. Looks like flares to me... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted December 12, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Fireballs? A-well a-goodness gracious! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted December 12, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Nice a drone launching fireworks ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted December 12, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 12, 2019 It looks to me like a flare that is dripping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701 Posted December 12, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Chinese floating lantern, burning parts of the candle are falling off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 12, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 12, 2019 "I don't know what it is so it must be aliens" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quillius Posted December 12, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, stereologist said: It looks to me like a flare that is dripping. how close would you have to be for the 'dripping' bits to be visible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted December 12, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, quillius said: how close would you have to be for the 'dripping' bits to be visible? Excellent question. I guess it would depend on the flare type and size. Whatever is falling appears to me to fall with gravity and burns out quickly. The free fall might make it burn more rapidly like when someone fans a fire. Or it might cause whatever is burning to cool off and be extinguished, Hard to tell from this poor video. The video appears to be out of focus. That typically happens with auto-focus cameras when the background is a single even color. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllPossible Posted December 12, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Technically the US military doesnt have to follow FAA rules. They can over rule the FAA anytime they choose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortugabob Posted December 12, 2019 #12 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Obviously a drone firing off a Roman candle. Nothing to see here people. Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An0n1m0us Posted December 12, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I've seen these ufos appear and perform this in SoCal Huntington Beach in the same manner. The week before there were 6 orange orbs flying south toward the beach, which I witnessed along with 8 other people. When the ufo began dropping orbs I witnessed it along with some neighbors and it couldn't have been more than a couple miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 12, 2019 #14 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, An0n1m0us said: I've seen these ufos appear and perform this in SoCal Huntington Beach in the same manner. The week before there were 6 orange orbs flying south toward the beach, which I witnessed along with 8 other people. When the ufo began dropping orbs I witnessed it along with some neighbors and it couldn't have been more than a couple miles away. Isn't Huntington beach near a military installation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted December 13, 2019 #15 Share Posted December 13, 2019 10 hours ago, esoteric_toad said: https://www.aopa.org/-/media/Files/AOPA/Home/Pilot-Resources/Safety-and-Proficiency/Operations/Lights-Out-Approved-Military-Operations-Areas/sa21.pdf Apparently lights are NOT required at all times. Just a few military bases nearby:HERE Flares. Yep. State aircraft (Eg. Military, or others classified as state aircraft’) can conduct ‘due regard’ operations and can operate without flight plans, without transponders on, without lights, without communicating with ATC, whilst within controlled airspace. The guy in the video doesn’t know his stuff... The due regard aircrafts assume self-separation from other aircraft and can do what they want basically. Usually classified missions/training. Or movement of sensitive individuals etc. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted December 16, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 7:49 AM, An0n1m0us said: I've seen these ufos appear and perform this in SoCal Huntington Beach in the same manner. The week before there were 6 orange orbs flying south toward the beach, which I witnessed along with 8 other people. When the ufo began dropping orbs I witnessed it along with some neighbors and it couldn't have been more than a couple miles away. And none of these 9 people managed to film it? What a shame, musta happened in a flash... although your description didn't mention it being over quickly - quite the contrary... In other words... sorry, not buying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 16, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChrLzs said: In other words... sorry, not buying it. nope a story here/ a story there keeps the fantasy juices flowing- oh joy Edited December 16, 2019 by Dejarma 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted December 16, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 10:26 PM, DieChecker said: I thought it was only off reservation that they needed civilian lights on. Looks like flares to me... Those are Arial Flares, I have seen them being used many times. You can fire them from a Mortar, Artillery, or even by hand. They are mainly used to light up the terrain around or in front of a military perimeter. They can also be used to mark a location for air strikes. It looks like a normal training exercise to me. No UFO here just more fantasy or wishful thinking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted December 16, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Manwon Lender said: Those are Arial Flares Yep. Definitely NOT Times Roman flares - I noticed the lack of serifs immediately. (sorry) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An0n1m0us Posted January 12, 2020 #20 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 12/15/2019 at 6:45 PM, ChrLzs said: And none of these 9 people managed to film it? What a shame, musta happened in a flash... although your description didn't mention it being over quickly - quite the contrary... In other words... sorry, not buying it. How long have you been subscribed to this site? I remember when it used to be open minded and like minded people that would come here to enjoy the topic and offer their opinions on the subject. Now I see that this site is full of skeptics with nothing better to do then offer their uneducated opinion on what other people have experienced. This site has really gone to the redditors. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted January 12, 2020 #21 Share Posted January 12, 2020 14 hours ago, An0n1m0us said: How long have you been subscribed to this site? I remember when it used to be open minded and like minded people that would come here to enjoy the topic and offer their opinions on the subject. Now I see that this site is full of skeptics with nothing better to do then offer their uneducated opinion on what other people have experienced. This site has really gone to the redditors. I avoided this site for several years after an admin scolded me for politely suggesting that a paranormal experience had a mundane explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted January 13, 2020 #22 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 12:44 AM, An0n1m0us said: How long have you been subscribed to this site? I remember when it used to be open minded and like minded people that would come here to enjoy the topic and offer their opinions on the subject. Now I see that this site is full of skeptics with nothing better to do then offer their uneducated opinion on what other people have experienced. This site has really gone to the redditors. I have a feeling you do not know what open minded means. That's okay. It doesn't mean accepting every idea tossed around. It doesn't mean that you can't apply filters to the things being tossed around. It doesn't mean being gullible. Open minded means open to new ideas and in individual cases taking the time to examine them before making a decision. Skeptics make decisions based on evidence. They look for evidence. Often these cases have no evidence. There is a light in the sky. Other times some evidence is available. One of the problems with cases of unusual phenomena is that there is a lot of junk to sort through looking for something unexplained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted January 13, 2020 #23 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 12/16/2019 at 2:10 AM, Manwon Lender said: Those are Arial Flares, I have seen them being used many times. You can fire them from a Mortar, Artillery, or even by hand. They are mainly used to light up the terrain around or in front of a military perimeter. They can also be used to mark a location for air strikes. It looks like a normal training exercise to me. No UFO here just more fantasy or wishful thinking. They don't look bright enough to be illumination rounds to me ? I'd suggest it's just a large chinese lantern, that began to disintegrate. (hence the "fireballs"). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted January 13, 2020 #24 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, RoofGardener said: They don't look bright enough to be illumination rounds to me ? I'd suggest it's just a large chinese lantern, that began to disintegrate. (hence the "fireballs"). Anything is possible, but I will stick with my original comments. The footage is poor and taken with a cell Phone at a good distance. In addition you can't tell how much illumination is being applied directly under the lights, and the dripping effect is common with illumination flairs. Last they could have also been flares that were marking a location, these would not be as bright as other flares. Plus the photos were taken with a large military training ground very near by. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted January 13, 2020 #25 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 12/12/2019 at 9:07 PM, AllPossible said: Technically the US military doesnt have to follow FAA rules. They can over rule the FAA anytime they choose. Well, kinda... The military has their own rules and regulations, but the military follows FAA regulations when flying in National Airspace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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