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27 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

Bolded: Nail on head, Helen. The success of Brexit hinges on the failure of the EU. We've heard steve and co say so on many occasions. Extortion is what brexit was built on. Buts its a simple and silly thinking to make the EU put a gun to its head and blow its proverbial brains out to save uninterrupted trade with 65 million people by destroying a common market of 450 million. Brexit isn't about Britain doing better its about trying to destroy the Germans and French. Its about turning Europe into another carbon copy of pre-world war 1 where the great powers pushed their proxies into endless wars and colonial endeavours. The British want their empire back and are prepared to blow their own brains if the Germans and French don't do it first. If i was the EU id walk away from any discussion, revert to WTO rules until a grown-up assumes the office of British PM. and if i was Biden id put them on the slow tract trade agreement list for electing the Trump clone. 

That made me laugh.

I dont know why I want the EU to fail, I just do, its funny to me for some reason. Although I will say that we like the French, but dont trust the Germans. As for Trump he is the funniest leader I have ever seen and I hope he wins re-election. I have never been so entertained by a leader before in my entire life. Then there is the British dream of being great again, thats also funny to me in case you didnt guess. Humour with a good old dash of exceptionalism added in.

In some ways I will be sad to see us leave the EU. Nope, its not because of what you might think, its because Farage was so funny and entertaining in Brussels. I think you have to have a similar British sense of humour to get it.

So there you go, we left because it was funny, and because we know we can do a lot better.

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20 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

That made me laugh.

I dont know why I want the EU to fail, I just do, its funny to me for some reason. Although I will say that we like the French, but dont trust the Germans. As for Trump he is the funniest leader I have ever seen and I hope he wins re-election. I have never been so entertained by a leader before in my entire life. Then there is the British dream of being great again, thats also funny to me in case you didnt guess. Humour with a good old dash of exceptionalism added in.

In some ways I will be sad to see us leave the EU. Nope, its not because of what you might think, its because Farage was so funny and entertaining in Brussels. I think you have to have a similar British sense of humour to get it.

So there you go, we left because it was funny, and because we know we can do a lot better.

You do know that the Sound of Music was based on a German Austrian family? 

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16 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

You do know that the Sound of Music was based on a German Austrian family? 

Precisely lol.

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EU's Michel proposes €5bn Brexit emergency fund.

EU countries facing a Brexit economic shock are in line to get access to a €5bn crisis reserve, under a draft plan from the president of the European Council.

Mr Michel said the €5bn Brexit Reserve was a “significant” and “new” amount of money that would “support countries, regions, and sectors most affected” by the UK’s departure from the bloc. 

https://www.ft.com/content/95b5f54e-eab6-4b60-9ae3-9ce782cabdab

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0710/1152546-eus-michel-proposes-5bn-brexit-fund/

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14 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

EU's Michel proposes €5bn Brexit emergency fund.

EU countries facing a Brexit economic shock are in line to get access to a €5bn crisis reserve, under a draft plan from the president of the European Council.

Mr Michel said the €5bn Brexit Reserve was a “significant” and “new” amount of money that would “support countries, regions, and sectors most affected” by the UK’s departure from the bloc. 

https://www.ft.com/content/95b5f54e-eab6-4b60-9ae3-9ce782cabdab

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0710/1152546-eus-michel-proposes-5bn-brexit-fund/

If they agreed to a free trade agreement or a no deal today then it would give EU businesses 5 months to prepare.

5 months of planning would stop a shock for them by being thrown into the deep end. They could spend that time understanding their supply chains to minimise the period of unknown. They are shooting themselves in the foot lol.

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1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Farage was so funny and entertaining in Brussels

that would be the unemployed Mr Farage?

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7 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Spoken like a true dyed in the wool socialist, your self loathing is blinding.

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You haven't seen star wars have you...?

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4 hours ago, RAyMO said:

that would be the unemployed Mr Farage?

Nice little pay off from the EU, £91,272, and £152,000 pension after 19 years of loyal service. 

In related News. With Trade deals and agreements coming out of our ears.  the remainers said no-one will want to sign with little old insignificant blighty. what happened?

FDI Investment, you know the investment Remainers would dry up and not happen. FDI at its highest level EVER.

 

 

This should NOT be happening.

no food, no medicine. no jobs, companies leaving the UK in their droves for EUtopia. London financial centre left in ruins as all the banks and financial services leave the number 1 in the world to set up in number 13 and 15 in frankfurt and paris. but it turns out the MIGHTY EU cannot do it.

Talk about U-Turns. and where is the BBC and MSN????? reporting all this.????

Its incredible.

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41 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

Nice little pay off from the EU, £91,272, and £152,000 pension after 19 years of loyal service. 

strange that given he claimed they wouldn't give him his pension. 

As for other wee notes - they won't save the UK - Brexit showed the UK for what it is, the people of Scotland and NI now know its united in name only. 

Oh and the article about derivatives - hailed as a big success - did you read it? time limited and derivatives only - and, despite claims to the contrary, was always considered as stand alone negotiations outside of the trade deal. 

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1 hour ago, stevewinn said:

FDI Investment, you know the investment Remainers would dry up and not happen. FDI at its highest level EVER

Potentially good, potentially foreign companies looking to capitalise on the economic fallout from COVID to strip assets from UK companies.

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What amazes me is the IMF.

Has that organisation ever gotten one of its UK forecasts anywhere near correct? What is going on with it? Lets have a look - `IMF does have a bias to eurozone, savage report by its OWN experts reveals` lol

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/691445/IMF-BIAS-eurozone-savage-report-by-its-OWN-experts-reveals

And why are we paying $20 billion a year into it to receive biased forecasts and pro-EU attitudes back? 

https://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/memdir/members.aspx

 

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Isn't it great watching the EU all squabbling over the €1.8Trillion fund, Its bliss knowing were not part of it. (funny how the cash cow as left the EU and the squabbling begins)

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They cant even agree on the €5Billion Brexit fund, to help members deal with the UK leaving. :lol: EU unity at its best.

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3 hours ago, stevewinn said:

They cant even agree on the €5Billion Brexit fund, to help members deal with the UK leaving. :lol: EU unity at its best.

The UK was always supposed to be the fly in the ointment at EU gatherings and it was to be a much better place with the UK gone. :yes:

Its now four days and counting since Brussels started the summit, making it one of the longest ever, and despite no UK still no decisions. Although language between EU leaders has been interesting.

"French President Emmanuel Macron lashed out at Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz, who had walked out of the leaders' gathering to take a phone call. You see? He doesn’t care. He doesn’t listen to others, has a bad attitude," Macron said"

"At one point, Macron leveled what might be the harshest insult possible in the post-Brexit European Council, likening Rutte and the Frugals to obstructionist Britain. “You are taking the seat of the U.K. around the table!” he thundered." :D

"Dutch officials, meanwhile, expressed their own exasperation with Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte for digging in his heels on the question of a governance mechanism."

In the meantime the amount of money to be raised reduces hour by hour and it was already regarded as insufficient and the EU parliament has now said it will block a poor deal.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-summit-parliament/eu-parliament-to-block-recovery-deal-if-it-falls-short-of-demands-idUKKCN24L1E8 

https://www.politico.eu/article/raw-emotions-as-eu-budget-summit-stretches-into-fourth-day/

 

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The EU lurches from crisis to crisis. cracks are deepening and becoming a chasm.

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38 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

The EU lurches from crisis to crisis. cracks are deepening and becoming a chasm.

Apparently a right argument took place this afternoon in Brussels where upon Merkel and Macron walked out lol.

At a guess the offer was the required funding for the corona-budget but in return Germany and France wanting to push harsh austerity onto the others. Or a flat denial of the required funding.

And so it begins, the cracks are opening. It wont be long now until the next leaves.

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1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Apparently a right argument took place this afternoon in Brussels where upon Merkel and Macron walked out lol.

At a guess the offer was the required funding for the corona-budget but in return Germany and France wanting to push harsh austerity onto the others. Or a flat denial of the required funding.

And so it begins, the cracks are opening. It wont be long now until the next leaves.

trouble is the majority have already been annexed not by the sword but the pen, and most are unaware of that fact until they try to leave.

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33 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

trouble is the majority have already been annexed not by the sword but the pen, and most are unaware of that fact until they try to leave.

Yes, the way it is setup is that Germany exports and the South EU states consume.

Germany needs them to keep consuming so funds them, and in return they are tied to Germany due to their debts.

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5 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Yes, the way it is setup is that Germany exports and the South EU states consume.

Germany needs them to keep consuming so funds them, and in return they are tied to Germany due to their debts.

The break up will be messy. 

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2 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

The break up will be messy. 

If the break up is nasty France and Germany will invade those states trying to leave who owe them money.

A Franco-Prussian empire.

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1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

If the break up is nasty France and Germany will invade those states trying to leave who owe them money.

A Franco-Prussian empire.

1871 all over again. 

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If the UK was still a member we'd have been on the hook for £80Bn. Someone get that on the side of the Bus. 

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8 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

 

 

 

If the UK was still a member we'd have been on the hook for £80Bn. Someone get that on the side of the Bus. 

How on earth is Ireland going to afford that?

Their taxes are going to be going up to fund it, their food prices will increase, and we will import cheaper food from elsewhere. Time for a Irexit.

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2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

How on earth is Ireland going to afford that?

Their taxes are going to be going up to fund it, their food prices will increase, and we will import cheaper food from elsewhere. Time for a Irexit.

As one person tweeted "hasn't Leo done well, 5th largest contributor, and WTO Brexit" 

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:rolleyes:

Tweedledum and Tweedledee 

Goodbye

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