Eldorado Posted December 18, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 18, 2019 "When seafaring modern humans ventured onto the island of Java some 40,000 years ago, they found a rainforest-covered land teeming with life—but they weren’t the first humans to call the island home. "Their distant ancestor, Homo erectus, had traveled to Java when it was connected to the mainland via land bridges and lived there for approximately 1.5 million years. "These people made their last stand on the island about 100,000 years ago, long after they had gone extinct elsewhere in the world, according a new study assigning reliable dates to previously found H. erectus fossils. "The finding suggests a trace of H. erectus DNA could live on in modern Southeast Asian populations, thanks to complex intermingling among the diverse humans who have lived in the region." Full monty at Science Mag: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/12/ancient-human-species-made-last-stand-100000-years-ago-indonesian-island "Homo erectus lived recently enough that it may have met Denisovans" At the New Scientist: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2228015-homo-erectus-lived-recently-enough-that-it-may-have-met-denisovans/ "Last appearance of Homo erectus at Ngandong, Java, 117,000–108,000 years ago" The Research at Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1863-2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted December 18, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Eldorado said: "The finding suggests a trace of H. erectus DNA could live on in modern Southeast Asian populations, thanks to complex intermingling among the diverse humans who have lived in the region." This idea was thrown around Smithsonian 20 something years ago due to certain features found in Native Americans and Asians. I think it's true. There has also been some suggestions that Erectus or Denisovan survived up until about 15,000 years ago in Southern Asia but due to DNA degradation in tropical environments the skulls species cannot be determined. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted December 19, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Quite believable. Modern humans encountered and mingled with relic populations of earlier migrations throughout their early history. We were "human" long before modern man even existed. The fact that we could interact with them on a social level says a lot about their apparent sophistication. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted December 19, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Eldorado said: "When seafaring modern humans ventured onto the island of Java some 40,000 years ago, they found a rainforest-covered land teeming with life—but they weren’t the first humans to call the island home. "Their distant ancestor, Homo erectus, had traveled to Java when it was connected to the mainland via land bridges and lived there for approximately 1.5 million years. "These people made their last stand on the island about 100,000 years ago, long after they had gone extinct elsewhere in the world, according a new study assigning reliable dates to previously found H. erectus fossils. "The finding suggests a trace of H. erectus DNA could live on in modern Southeast Asian populations, thanks to complex intermingling among the diverse humans who have lived in the region." Full monty at Science Mag: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/12/ancient-human-species-made-last-stand-100000-years-ago-indonesian-island "Homo erectus lived recently enough that it may have met Denisovans" At the New Scientist: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2228015-homo-erectus-lived-recently-enough-that-it-may-have-met-denisovans/ "Last appearance of Homo erectus at Ngandong, Java, 117,000–108,000 years ago" The Research at Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1863-2 These stories bring up the imagery of a primitive mos eisley cantina. I like it. 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted December 26, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Ahhhhhh.. that would explain all those people defecating on the street in San Francisco ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted December 26, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 26, 2019 We know that there were several hominids living alongside early humans, such as Neanderthals, Denisovans and Homo Floresiensis. It seems like there were quite a few hominids in early human history. It is surprising that an early hominid lasted that long considering the competition at the time. It goes to show that we are an adaptable bunch. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DanL Posted January 12, 2020 #7 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It is no surprise that they coexisted for a short time with modern man. They were a very successful species...until modern man killed them all. ANY species that competed with modern man faced extermination. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 13, 2020 #8 Share Posted January 13, 2020 20 hours ago, DanL said: It is no surprise that they coexisted for a short time with modern man. They were a very successful species...until modern man killed them all. ANY species that competed with modern man faced extermination. They started it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DanL Posted January 14, 2020 #9 Share Posted January 14, 2020 17 hours ago, Myles said: They started it! We FINISHED it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 14, 2020 #10 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) On 12/19/2019 at 9:08 AM, Farmer77 said: These stories bring up the imagery of a primitive mos eisley cantina. I like it. We're seeing the same subliminal message movie scene... ~ As for Java and H. erectus, I suspect I have more than a few for neighbors.. ~ Edited January 14, 2020 by third_eye Instinctively forgot 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted January 14, 2020 #11 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, third_eye said: We're seeing the same subliminal message movie scene... ~ Somehow I doubt this is the first time either! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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