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Evangelicals call for Trump's removal

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Eldorado

"In a harshly worded editorial, the editor of Christianity Today, the evangelical magazine founded by Billy Graham, called for President Trump to be removed from office. Posted Thursday afternoon, it viewed the evidence from the House impeachment hearings as having made a clear case that Mr. Trump had abused his office for personal gain and violated the Constitution.

""The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president's political opponents," Mark Galli wrote. "That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral." "

Full story at CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christianity-today-editorial-trump-should-be-removed-from-office-2019-12-19/

 

"The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration.

"He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals.

"He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud.

"His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused. "

At Christianity Today: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

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joc

The title should actually read:    Leftist Evangelicals call for Trump's removal

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ExpandMyMind
27 minutes ago, joc said:

The title should actually read:    Leftist Evangelicals call for Trump's removal

Well, sure, that's what Trump labelled them as on Twitter (he also incorrectly referred to them as 'ET'). But they're hardly The Daily Kos.

' "plant the evangelical flag in the middle-of-the-road, taking the conservative theological position but a definite liberal approach to social problems".'

So they're basically evangelicals who actually follow the word of Christ, unlike the conservative evangelicals whose political ideology is basically the polar opposite of Christ's teachings.

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joc
1 minute ago, ExpandMyMind said:

definite liberal approach to social problems

What the hell do you think the left is?  Left...Liberal...same damn thing.

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1 minute ago, joc said:

What the hell do you think the left is?  Left...Liberal...same damn thing.

Indeed, like the New Testament.

My point wasn't that they're not 'left', it was that they're far more centre than far-left and nothing like the 'biased librulz' that they're currently being framed as.

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5 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Indeed, like the New Testament.

My point wasn't that they're not 'left', it was that they're far more centre than far-left and nothing like the 'biased librulz' that they're currently being framed as.

They are far left enough to think Trump should be removed...pretty far from center I'd say.

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46 minutes ago, joc said:

The title should actually read:    Leftist Evangelicals call for Trump's removal

I think I just liked one of your posts.

Amazing, keep it up.

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17 minutes ago, joc said:

They are far left enough to think Trump should be removed...pretty far from center I'd say.

Ah, the ol' 'They must only believe that because they're biased, and not because of the confirmed evidence and admissions of guilt' by both Trump and his CoS. 

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5 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Ah, the ol' 'They must only believe that because they're biased, and not because of the confirmed evidence and admissions of guilt' by both Trump and his CoS. 

I don't even know what you are talking about.  Do you?

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RabidMongoose

Something weird is happening to the political left across the western hemisphere.

When listening to them its like they believe they hold the moral high-ground on everything. There is no debate, there is no self-reflection or criticism, its you must agree with us or there is something wrong with you. From a lack of education all the way to bigotry. And with the impeachment of Trump arent they becoming tyrannical little monsters?

What they really, really, really, hate about Trump is they want socialism to be true but his version of capitalism is driving a significant boom in the US. Their stock market is almost 100% up since him coming to power and unemployment is far lower. They dont like that a Republican is better at economics than they are (which in all frankness isn't difficult) lol.

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1 minute ago, RabidMongoose said:

Something weird is happening to the political left across the western hemisphere.

When listening to them its like they believe they hold the moral high-ground on everything. There is no debate, there is no self-reflection or criticism, its you must agree with us or there is something wrong with you. From a lack of education all the way to bigotry. And with the impeachment of Trump arent they becoming tyrannical little monsters?

What they really, really, really, hate about Trump is they want socialism to be true but his version of capitalism is driving a significant boom in the US. Their stock market is almost 100% up since him coming to power and unemployment is far lower. They dont like that a Republican is better at economics than they are (which in all frankness isn't difficult) lol.

At least on one corner of the street...we can hang out and have a beer together!  :tu:

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ExpandMyMind
9 minutes ago, joc said:

I don't even know what you are talking about.  Do you?

Yes.

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RabidMongoose
6 minutes ago, joc said:

At least on one corner of the street...we can hang out and have a beer together!  :tu:

Never gonna happen lol

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Eldorado

Cracks appear in Donald Trump's support from evangelicals over impeachment, poll shows

"The Politico/Morning Consult poll was taken on Dec 19 and 20. The Christianity Today article was published on Dec 19.

"According to the poll 43 per cent of evangelicals would approve of the Senate removing Mr Trump from office.

"Within that figure 34 per cent would "strongly approve" and nine per cent would "somewhat approve."

"Mr Trump still had majority support, with 53 per cent saying they would "disapprove" of the Senate removing him, including 49 per cent who would "strongly disapprove."

"However, it was the latest sign that his support among the evangelical community might be starting to crack."

Full monty at the Conservative Uk Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/23/cracks-appear-donald-trumps-support-evangelicals-impeachment/

(In the 2016 election 80% of them backed Mr Trump)

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Raptor Witness

Franklin Graham is “deceived” by a cult leader, with no excuse for a delusion so obvious.

Watching the gates of Hell prevail, and obeying the Dark Lord, are one and the same.

The misfortune of the United States, has only barely begun. See, St. NASA’s equipment fails by a spectacular curse.

Trump’s ”Space Force” ... dies on the vine.

Even now are the golden wings of military flight on the menu of the Angelic Host.

They dared also, Father, to harm a Son of Thunder, to sow a whirlwind of fire.” December 10, 2019.

“See it, Mother, on the mountain; gasping, a gurgling brook of failure, Tortuous moaning, the bleating of the last surrender.

The United States; frozen like a mummy,sickening hunger, the pain of a newdawn trauma. 

Worlds away, I seek the outcasts, but the beast does not derive .... easy sniveling.” December 16, 2019.

 

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Raptor Witness
12 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Franklin Graham should have learned a lesson from his father’s statement, when another undeniable crook, Nixon resigned in disgrace.

When speaking in support of Nixon, on the now infamous secret tapes, against the free press, The Reverend Billy Graham stated, “I felt like slashing their throats.”

At the 1:30 minute mark ...

If I stand as a witness against the false Church, Mr. Graham, it will be as if far more than the gates of Hell have prevailed. It will be the East wind blowing the chaff.

Trump, like Snowden was a human plaga, sent to destroy .... acknowledged by lost souls, as anything more.

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South Alabam

How dare all you heathen to believe Trump isn't mentioned in the Bible.

2Ti 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 
2Ti 3:2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 
2Ti 3:3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 
2Ti 3:4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 

See? He's in there.
 

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and then

Trump/Pence 2020...booooooyahh

 

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On 12/26/2019 at 12:40 PM, Raptor Witness said:

Franklin Graham should have learned a lesson from his father’s statement, when another undeniable crook, Nixon resigned in disgrace.

When speaking in support of Nixon, on the now infamous secret tapes, against the free press, The Reverend Billy Graham stated, “I felt like slashing their throats.”

At the 1:30 minute mark ...

If I stand as a witness against the false Church, Mr. Graham, it will be as if far more than the gates of Hell have prevailed. It will be the East wind blowing the chaff.

Trump, like Snowden was a human plaga, sent to destroy .... acknowledged by lost souls, as anything more.

Far East

 

noun

the countries of E Asia, including China, Japan, Korea, and sometimes adjacent areas.
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Festina

Testing, testing, testing....lol.

A book that makes very little sense, is full of bloodthirsty revenges, ruthless thievery,  obsessive  greed, mass human slaughters, sacrificial wars and exhibits an utter hatred for women who are rarely mentioned in the book.  Hell-oh? 

And he’s  aboot  2,000 years  LATE! 

(Good Chance Apollonius of Tyana was the historical Paul and Jesus).

But decades later...Phil is still correct. Paula White?   T E S T I N G....

 

 

 

 

 

 

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