+Nuclear Wessel Posted February 25, 2021 #926 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, psyche101 said: Why do you ever think I'm interested in your ridiculous views? I have zero interest in your thoughts or ideas. Pretty sure I've mentioned that before. He does it to me, too, even though I've been blatantly ignoring him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 25, 2021 #927 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, Nuclear Wessel said: He does it to me, too, even though I've been blatantly ignoring him. Like a JW isn't he. Just won't take the hint. Or even direct communication. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted February 25, 2021 #928 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, psyche101 said: Like a JW isn't he. Just won't take the hint. Or even direct communication. Like a crazy ex-girlfriend who can't handle rejection. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted February 25, 2021 #929 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 6:06 AM, Umipear said: Can you prove to me that the soul is not there Just a final word here... If the soul means the essence and personality and empathy and intuition and caring and loving and intelligence and understanding of a person, then I don't think a single person here doubts the existence of the soul. It's 100% real. ..but it's not transferable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 25, 2021 #930 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, ChrLzs said: Just a final word here... If the soul means the essence and personality and empathy and intuition and caring and loving and intelligence and understanding of a person, then I don't think a single person here doubts the existence of the soul. It's 100% real. ..but it's not transferable. absolutely Until we learn how to transfer our consciousness ; then our old soul will transfer to a new host Soul is an evolved artefact of our self aware consciousness. It grows with us, and dies with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 25, 2021 #931 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, psyche101 said: Why do you ever think I'm interested in your ridiculous views? I have zero interest in your thoughts or ideas. Pretty sure I've mentioned that before. I ignore most of your posts, but when you write something which is untrue, I feel the need to correct it I don't give damn about how you feel about me, but i don't like you misleading others. Physics has NEVER proven that life after death is impossible, for example. You chose to believe that generalisation, based on one physicist's findings, on one specific form of life after death And you are a typical person who has such fixed beliefs that they refuse to hear anything which challenges those beliefs. THAT'S why you don't like my views, thoughts and ideas. They challenge the comfort zone you have constructed, through your own beliefs and views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 25, 2021 #932 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: He does it to me, too, even though I've been blatantly ignoring him. I respond to posts to give a response to the general audience not just the specific poster . You can ignore me if you like. That just cuts you off from different views etc. I choose usually to respond to your views and posts, to further debate, and to present alternate pov and arguments . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 25, 2021 #933 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: I ignore most of your posts, but when you write something which is untrue, I feel the need to correct it I don't give damn about how you feel about me, but i don't like you misleading others. Physics has NEVER proven that life after death is impossible, for example. You chose to believe that generalisation, based on one physicist's findings, on one specific form of life after death And you are a typical person who has such fixed beliefs that they refuse to hear anything which challenges those beliefs. THAT'S why you don't like my views, thoughts and ideas. They challenge the comfort zone you have constructed, through your own beliefs and views. I'm the one making quotes. As such, you mislead nobody until you start posting your fantasies. Leave me alone. I don't like you. I have no interest in discussing anything with you. Your fantasies bore me to death and you are dishonest. It's why I hardly post here anymore. I can't stand seeing your rubbish posting. I would suggest that you have driven more valuable posters from this section than any other poster. Possibly more than ten other posters. If I want to discuss the subject I will. With anyone but you. Edited February 25, 2021 by psyche101 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 25, 2021 #934 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Like a crazy ex-girlfriend who can't handle rejection. Sooo right that's it's actually not funny anymore...... It's creepy and weird. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted February 25, 2021 #935 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Mr Walker said: I respond to posts to give a response to the general audience not just the specific poster . You can ignore me if you like. That just cuts you off from different views etc. I choose usually to respond to your views and posts, to further debate, and to present alternate pov and arguments . I don't like you and your views don't interest me. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted February 25, 2021 #936 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, psyche101 said: I'm the one making quotes. As such, you mislead nobody until you start posting your fantasies. Leave me alone. I don't like you. I have no interest in discussing anything with you. Your fantasies bore me to death and you are dishonest. It's why I hardly post here anymore. I can't stand seeing your rubbish posting. I would suggest that you have driven more valuable posters from this section than any other poster. Possibly more than ten other posters. If I want to discuss the subject I will. With anyone but you. It's interesting to me that he claimed the following: " And you are a typical person who has such fixed beliefs that they refuse to hear anything which challenges those beliefs." I have personally beared witness to you giving props to those who have "challenged" your own claims/beliefs--notably when @eight bits offers a good counter-point/alternative perspective. I see no evidence of the claims that Mr Walker makes in this regard. And yes, many other valuable posters have left because of his pollution. It's extremely sad. In fact, such pollution is why I have expanded into other sections of this site. Even when he is on ignore I can't escape it because other users take the bait. Edited February 25, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 25, 2021 #937 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: It's interesting to me that he claimed the following: " And you are a typical person who has such fixed beliefs that they refuse to hear anything which challenges those beliefs." I have personally beared witness to you giving props to those who have "challenged" your own claims/beliefs--notably when @eight bits offers a good counter-point/alternative perspective. I see no evidence of the claims that Mr Walker makes in this regard. Indeed, it's a passive aggressive approach to goad one into responding to his nonsense. Going by the number of posts it works too often. I personally find it an insulting approach. He acts as though mentally superior, yet reminds me a an old man in the park in soiled pants wearing a sandwich board. 8 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: And yes, many other valuable posters have left because of his pollution. It's extremely sad. In fact, such pollution is why I have expanded into other sections of this site. Even when he is on ignore I can't escape it because other users take the bait. Without doubt. He is a menace. This forum will have to change names to the Spirituality, Skepticism and Walker section. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 26, 2021 #938 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I don't like you and your views don't interest me. lol and which comes first. ? I don't like or dislike any one here, although some annoy me at times, and I strongly disagree with the way some people see themselves and their world. I don't KNOW any of you, or have any emotional investment /attachment to you, other than that I have to all humanity. You don't know me either, so it is illogical to dislike me, but disliking my ideas, values, opinions, etc is understandable People tend to "dislike" those who challenge their own beliefs/world views, and thus their comfort in the familiar . That gives them an excuse to ignore the wisdoms, experience, advice or knowledge of those people. Statistically these sections are stacked by disbelievers, cynics and materialists. (although admittedly just recently there have been a few voluble believers. ) if you count up the posters who have left, ,a big majority have been the believers or open minded, sick of personal attacks on them Edited February 26, 2021 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 26, 2021 #939 Share Posted February 26, 2021 20 hours ago, psyche101 said: I'm the one making quotes. As such, you mislead nobody until you start posting your fantasies. Leave me alone. I don't like you. I have no interest in discussing anything with you. Your fantasies bore me to death and you are dishonest. It's why I hardly post here anymore. I can't stand seeing your rubbish posting. I would suggest that you have driven more valuable posters from this section than any other poster. Possibly more than ten other posters. If I want to discuss the subject I will. With anyone but you. Those are all problems of your own, and you need to own them, rather than blame me. See my post above. What you call fantasies you dont have to listen to, but you also ignore science, despite claiming you only stick to it And, in reality, most of the posters who have been driven from here have been believers or open minded, driven away by the outright hostility and personal attacks on them. I am too stubborn to be driven away and wont be bullied . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 26, 2021 #940 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: Those are all problems of your own, and you need to own them, rather than blame me. See my post above. What you call fantasies you dont have to listen to, but you also ignore science, despite claiming you only stick to it And, in reality, most of the posters who have been driven from here have been believers or open minded, driven away by the outright hostility and personal attacks on them. I am too stubborn to be driven away and wont be bullied . FFS. What is wrong with you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted February 26, 2021 #941 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: And, in reality, most of the posters who have been driven from here have been believers or open minded, driven away by the outright hostility and personal attacks on them. I am too stubborn to be driven away and wont be bullied . are these posters weak in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 26, 2021 #942 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, psyche101 said: FFS. What is wrong with you? Nothing at all. However i suspect you have a number of issues you need to resolve. I am not the one whinging and complaining. I am not threatened by your posts or views. You've got some weird ones, and you have a very narrow, materialist pov., limited to provable things in the here and now, but once I know that I can accept it I am creative and imaginative as well as practical. You are not. I accept many possibilities within human science You do not . I only put you on ignore because I do so with any poster who stops arguing content and starts making personal attacks . I will argue any pov, but do my best not to trade insults. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 26, 2021 #943 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dejarma said: are these posters weak in your opinion? How would I know? And what do you mean by "weak"? If a person is being bullied, insulted or attacked, it is not always weakness to walk away from it, especially if the system is not preventing the bullying. It can take strength of character. They aren't as stubborn as me. I've had PMs from at least 4 of them, explaining why they left I imagine that to an atheist someone like crazy horse, or even me, can be challenging and frustrating but that is part of a dialogue with different people . If i wasn't disciplined of mind I would get frustred by people who really know or understand only a limited experience of the world and claim things like gods and ghosts just don't exist, or that mind reading is impossible, or that t life after death is physically impossible, or that humans will never circumvent the speed of light, or use teleportation. Edited February 26, 2021 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted February 26, 2021 #944 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: How would I know? for a fact you wouldn't know, would you!? i'll rephrase the question: do you <feel> these posters are weak? stubborn?? what does that word mean in this context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted February 26, 2021 #945 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: for a fact you wouldn't know, would you!? i'll rephrase the question: do you <feel> these posters are weak? stubborn?? what does that word mean in this context? i must not have finished the post when you replied. I gave a comprehensive answer in the completed post. stubborn ? Not easily dissuaded from a course of action or belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted February 26, 2021 #946 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: Those are all problems of your own, and you need to own them, rather than blame me. See my post above. What you call fantasies you dont have to listen to, but you also ignore science, despite claiming you only stick to it And, in reality, most of the posters who have been driven from here have been believers or open minded, driven away by the outright hostility and personal attacks on them. I am too stubborn to be driven away and wont be bullied . Gaslight some more. You are a narcissist. Edited February 26, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted February 26, 2021 #947 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: i must not have finished the post when you replied. I gave a comprehensive answer in the completed post. stubborn ? Not easily dissuaded from a course of action or belief. you didn't answer a simple question- here it is again: Quote do you <feel> these posters are weak? no grey areas- it's either yes or no... but technically you did answer the question, just like if I asked what's the capital of Paris & someone replied= bambigdinbefnab. Walker, say something interesting- impress me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted February 26, 2021 #948 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Folks, just stop biting... please? I have Walker on ignore and yet am still bombarded with stupid, utterly pointless meta-discussions and people quoting his made up dreck. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted February 26, 2021 #949 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, ChrLzs said: Folks, just stop biting... please? I have Walker on ignore and yet am still bombarded with stupid, utterly pointless meta-discussions and people quoting his made up dreck. Dude, I have him on ignore. I still see his ****ing delusional drivel EVERYWHERE. I am SICK of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted February 26, 2021 #950 Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, ChrLzs said: Folks, just stop biting... please? I have Walker on ignore and yet am still bombarded with stupid, utterly pointless meta-discussions and people quoting his made up dreck. i'll bite as much as i want mate!!! i find it funny... if you don't like it then don't fekin reply!! don't tell me & others what to do like you know best.. how disrespectful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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