U.S drone strike kills Iranian General.

[SHaYap]

Well, the POTUS recently just pardoned the worst cases of American war criminals, I guess the US don't have to worry about "bad" soldiers anymore. 

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[+and-then]

1 hour ago, third_eye said:

I guess the US don't have to worry about "bad" soldiers anymore.

I wouldn't go THAT far, but we recently turned a couple of the worst into recycled biomass 

[SHaYap]

1 hour ago, and then said:

I wouldn't go THAT far, but we recently turned a couple of the worst into recycled biomass 

We? 

At least you're proud of yourself, whatever it was that was your contribution to the whole mess... 

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[F3SS]

We kill terrorists. You whip, cane and maim illegal immigrants. Don't act so holy. 

[Setton]

9 hours ago, third_eye said:

We? 

At least you're proud of yourself, whatever it was that was your contribution to the whole mess... 

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It's a well known fact that the US drone capability is powered by the hot air@and then emits in his armchair. 

Edited January 12, 2020 by Setton

[+and-then]

9 hours ago, third_eye said:

We? 

At least you're proud of yourself, whatever it was that was your contribution to the whole mess... 

~

No worries, I wasn't implying you'd taken any action.  You realize that you are openly finding fault with a supporter of those who risk their lives to eliminate mass killers, right?  You're entitled to your own opinion but let's be clear, Soleimani was evil.  THAT'S what civilized people call someone who kills innocents without remorse for a political movement or goal.  He's been a busy man for years but even if you don't give a damned about dead or crippled Americans, he recently gave the orders to execute 1500 Iranians and told the other guy who was vaporized with him to do the same to Iraqi protesters.  That guy killed 500 Iraqis - FOR PROTESTING IRAN.  And yes, I am absolutely proud that that waste of carbon has assumed room temperature.  

[+and-then]

42 minutes ago, Setton said:

It's a well known fact that the US drone capability is powered by the hot air@and then emits in his armchair. 

And here I was thinking you had no sense of humor.  I retract.  That was actually amusing.  I wonder if Third had a moral conundrum while Obama used drones to kill nearly 4000 people abroad?  Yep, Saint Barry the Progressive Messiah picked the targets himself.  Bragged that he never thought he'd be so good at it.  He vaporized a couple of Americans without even a hat tip to due process. Were you aware of that, Setton?  You'll probably be familiar with the name.  Anwar al Awlaki.  He had quite a large "spiritual" following, online.  LOTS of newby Jihadis learned at his digital feet.  Now, I didn't cry when he was droned because he was clearly causing death and mayhem to innocents but his son was with him at the time and got all blown up, too.  His son was a 16-year-old high school student from Denver Colorado. The moral of the story is, Orange Man Bad but Light Brown Man, righteous.  

[SHaYap]

24 minutes ago, and then said:

No worries, I wasn't implying you'd taken any action.  You realize that you are openly finding fault with a supporter of those who risk their lives to eliminate mass killers, right?  You're entitled to your own opinion but let's be clear, Soleimani was evil.  THAT'S what civilized people call someone who kills innocents without remorse for a political movement or goal.  He's been a busy man for years but even if you don't give a damned about dead or crippled Americans, he recently gave the orders to execute 1500 Iranians and told the other guy who was vaporized with him to do the same to Iraqi protesters.  That guy killed 500 Iraqis - FOR PROTESTING IRAN.  And yes, I am absolutely proud that that waste of carbon has assumed room temperature.  

Yeah, more American good guys to fill those cultural war cemeteries just so you get to gloat on internet forums, at least you're consistent with your arrogance and sullying of your so called "faith" 

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17 minutes ago, and then said:

I wonder if Third had a moral conundrum while Obama used drones to kill nearly 4000 people abroad?

Yes, it's all amerikanner to me, Red, Blue or White... Innocent people you say? Yeah, you're the most evil of the lot, dreadfully hypocritical, lawless thugs, you and those like you are the the reason your country is the most hated of the century, and innocent Americans suffer along with the world. 

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[SHaYap]

2 hours ago, F3SS said:

We kill terrorists. You whip, cane and maim illegal immigrants. Don't act so holy. 

Yes you do, kill, maim and murder along with all the innocent and unfortunately collateral lives with massive million dollar weapons of great destructive capacity for Killing Human beings just for headlines and political intrigues. 

Not really an act of anything holy but just being human as humane as humanity provides.

You don't know what "holy" means do you... 

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Edited January 12, 2020 by third_eye
Sometimes something

[F3SS]

Hated by who? Let me guess, most of the world? Because you know them all and speak for them too. All 7 billion of them. Even if we are the most hated we've also always been the most revered. 

[RavenHawk]

 

14 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

and none of those lost a war that they started so they could no longer be called American. Honestly that the winners write the history is just a fact of life.

So the Germans and Japanese can’t be called Germans or Japanese because they lost WWII?  Of course, the South fired the first shots but the North pushed the South into war.  Yes, the winners always write the history.  How long does it take for all the facts to eventually come out?  The PC crowd hasn’t won yet.  Pelosi and the rest of the revisionists haven’t written a thing, just ignorance and stupidity.

 

Youre too caught up in the emotion.

Me?  Most of your posts just drip with hatred.  You are so caught up in the hatred, you aren’t even aware of it.  When it comes to one’s history and culture, you should be a bit emotional.  If you distance yourself from that too much, then something is wrong.  If having pride in your nation gives you PTSD, then you may be a Socialist.

 

Think about the things ive actually said.

I do and you are splitting hairs.  Making divisions where none belong.  Making false equivalencies.

 

I dont argue that the confederacy isnt part of American culture, just that monuments to those who fought for the confederacy,  some of which have been put up as recently as the last decade, dont fit the criteria of American Cultural sites.

Which is it?  It is either a part of our culture or it isn’t.  If statues of Confederates are not part of our culture, then how long will it be before we start considering statues (and other monuments) of our Founding Fathers to not be part of our culture because they were slave owners?

[Farmer77]

1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

So the Germans and Japanese can’t be called Germans or Japanese because they lost WWII? 

Of course they can. They can't however dictate what American culture is............. because they lost the war that would have given them the right to. Just like the Confederacy.

1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

Me?  Most of your posts just drip with hatred.  You are so caught up in the hatred, you aren’t even aware of it.  When it comes to one’s history and culture, you should be a bit emotional.  If you distance yourself from that too much, then something is wrong.  If having pride in your nation gives you PTSD, then you may be a Socialist.

Yeah yeah I know I know facts are hatred now, up is down and dont believe anything unless the dear leader says it.

1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

 If statues of Confederates are not part of our culture, then how long will it be before we start considering statues (and other monuments) of our Founding Fathers to not be part of our culture because they were slave owners?

Oh it will probably happen right about the time the founding fathers start a war to secede from America and then have their memories used as tools to keep racist rhetoric alive .

While zombie founding fathers seceding from the union would make a helluva movie I dont see that happening anytime soon.

Edited January 12, 2020 by Farmer77

[Setton]

8 hours ago, and then said:

And here I was thinking you had no sense of humor.  I retract.  That was actually amusing.  I wonder if Third had a moral conundrum while Obama used drones to kill nearly 4000 people abroad?  Yep, Saint Barry the Progressive Messiah picked the targets himself.  Bragged that he never thought he'd be so good at it.  He vaporized a couple of Americans without even a hat tip to due process. Were you aware of that, Setton?  

Very. 

Firstly, I invite you to find any post where I praise that decision. 

Secondly, there is a slight difference between assassinating terrorists and assassinating a senior figure of a foreign government you are not at war with. 

But either is a slippery slope to worse things. 

[SHaYap]

7 hours ago, F3SS said:

Hated by who? Let me guess, most of the world?

Well... You can start with half of Americans at one time or another... 

~

7 hours ago, F3SS said:

Because you know them all and speak for them too.

No, 'they' told the world, I heard. 

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7 hours ago, F3SS said:

All 7 billion of them. Even if we are the most hated we've also always been the most revered. 

So I much so you have to believe in making it 'great' again? 

Best of luck to ya.... 

~

[Unusual Tournament]

15 minutes ago, Setton said:

Very. 

Firstly, I invite you to find any post where I praise that decision. 

Secondly, there is a slight difference between assassinating terrorists and assassinating a senior figure of a foreign government you are not at war with. 

But either is a slippery slope to worse things. 

I agree with you, Solimanli was a senior figure in the Iranian government. But attacking the American embassy (in light of the hostage crises in the 80's) is a very serious matter. Iran and Solimanli went a step too far. 

[Unusual Tournament]

21 hours ago, third_eye said:

Well, the POTUS recently just pardoned the worst cases of American war criminals, I guess the US don't have to worry about "bad" soldiers anymore. 

~

No he won't. But lets look at the killing of Solimanli... who benefits the most with him dead? 

Israel. Saudi Arabia. Russia. ISIS.

[+DieChecker]

On 1/9/2020 at 10:19 PM, Captain Risky said:

Almost half expecting for the Mullahs to be invited to a peace summit and Trump gets all friendly with them like he did with rocket man. 

And... That would be wrong?

On 1/10/2020 at 1:41 AM, Black Red Devil said:

 But above all, you don't even realise how arrogant you come across by basically trying to claim you and your political views are a representation of all Americans.

Oh, the irony. 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 minute ago, DieChecker said:

And... That would be wrong?

Oh, the irony. 

No it wouldn't be wrong just hypocritical. 

[+DieChecker]

So the latest is that Iran shot down the civilian jetliner because they were jumpy because Trump had threatened them. So if Trump hadn't threatened them, those people would be alive.

Spineless dogs! To blame their own error on Trump. Might just as well blame Clinton for killing those people, because she lost the 2016 election.

[bee]

50 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

No he won't. But lets look at the killing of Solimanli... who benefits the most with him dead? 

Israel. Saudi Arabia. Russia. ISIS.

 

There is a group you have forgot to include in your question.........

The Iranian People...

A large proportion of whom do not want to live under a strict Islamic dominated regime...
And who can blame them...  

This is a tweet I put before on Page 26... there are two parts to it and the second part
is especially relevant to including them as a group who stands to benefit from his death...

 

 

Edited January 12, 2020 by bee

[SHaYap]

Your green card is in the mail as we speak... 

"baking cakes" oh my...because they in Iran loves America... 

That's hilarious... 

~

[SHaYap]

1 hour ago, Captain Risky said:

No he won't. But lets look at the killing of Solimanli... who benefits the most with him dead? 

Israel. Saudi Arabia. Russia. ISIS.

Along with many currently in the current US administrative Senate and houses serving as Representatives and Congress... 

~

[Setton]

2 hours ago, Captain Risky said:

I agree with you, Solimanli was a senior figure in the Iranian government. But attacking the American embassy (in light of the hostage crises in the 80's) is a very serious matter. Iran and Solimanli went a step too far. 

I think the Americans went several steps too far first. Killing 25+ Iranian and Iraqi government military, without any sort of legal permissions and purely out of revenge, seems excessive. 

[Black Red Devil]

6 hours ago, bee said:

 

There is a group you have forgot to include in your question.........

The Iranian People...

A large proportion of whom do not want to live under a strict Islamic dominated regime...
And who can blame them...  

This is a tweet I put before on Page 26... there are two parts to it and the second part
is especially relevant to including them as a group who stands to benefit from his death...

 

 

The Iranian people?   Nice, strong American accent, let me guess she's from Brooklyn, NY?

There are a lot of British that don't want to BREXIT, but the Referendum...Parliament...Boris Johnston and now you're leaving because the British (as in British nationals) decided. 

Lets let the Iranians decide huh?  It's not up to a foreign nation to constantly go there and try to force regime change. 

[RavenHawk]

22 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Yeah the Constitution itself argues against that starting at the preamble. My brain drifts to healthcare when discussing socialism so thats where im coming from here.

It then goes on to say in Article 2 Section 8 :

Section 8 then concludes with:

 

So I showed you how socialist concepts can absolutely be constitutional. 

Am I missing something? Can you show me how they necessarily aren't?

Congratulations!  You have just made the primary Socialist argument against the Constitution.  No, you have not shown how Socialist concepts can absolutely be Constitutional.  Yes, you are missing something.  You are missing the original intent.  The “Necessary and Proper”, “General Welfare”, and “Commerce” clauses are the most abused clauses in the Constitution.  Because these are the weak points in the Constitution and are being used to subvert the Constitution on itself.  The Socialist agenda has been twisting and manipulating these clauses for a century.  Healthcare is perhaps the best example.

 

The Constitution limits the power of government.  Socialism must impose itself on all the people (increase its power over the people).  Why do you think many fight the idea of universal care?  We already know that answer.  It’s because people instinctively do not want to pay for someone else’s poor lifestyle choices.  The ACA required heavy rewrites of multiple laws forcing people to have to pay for coverage.  That is infringement and an abuse of power.  The government is no longer protecting the Rights of the individual.  This is exerting power over the people.

 

Now how this made it different from say, paying for auto insurance is a matter of directness.  Everyone that drives should have auto insurance.  Most people do not *need* health insurance.  If someone is a bad driver, they get their license and insurance revoked.  If you are obese and smoke, you don’t get your health insurance revoked but should.

 

Washington stated “every citizen who enjoys the protection of a free government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defence of it.”  Of course, he was talking about duty and responsibility to the nation and our Rights.  He wasn’t giving the government a blank check.  Duty means that the individual carries his own weight, not becoming a burden to the nation and others.  Being able to exercise our full Rights with proper Responsibility is to not be a mooch on society.

 

That’s why getting auto insurance or even taxes to cover fire and police is a direct benefit to the individual.  But when people get things for free, like unproportionate healthcare for bad habits, human nature is such to take advantage of that and we all lose.  This is how you enslave a population by making them dependent on the government.  The government is not a sugar daddy.  Such dependency should be left to the retired and elderly. 

 

Something like Social Security cannot meet the needs in today’s world but we still use it.  There needs to be better means to prepare for one’s retirement that doesn’t require twisting the meaning of certain clauses in the Constitution.  If the Constitution is the device for good government, then the Federalist Papers is its user guide.  The Federalist Papers do not support Socialism in any flavor.  In fact, the Constitution was designed to be anti-Socialist.