Piney Posted January 19, 2020 #151 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Sanders said: Im dating celestial events What events? Show them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #152 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I'linked dozens in the OP. Why so lazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 19, 2020 #153 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, Swede said: Naturally so. Without bothering to address the various archaeological/historical/cultural errors, are you familiar with the astrological phenomenon known as prescession? Your "precise" dates are inherently inaccurate. . I already mentioned precession of the equinoxes way back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 19, 2020 #154 Share Posted January 19, 2020 How can the bible be an "astrological record" when it was written at a time the solar system was declared as to be geocentric? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #155 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, toast said: How can the bible be an "astrological record" when it was written at a time the solar system was declared as to be geocentric? Geocentricity is later. Look for whatever reason, it is possible using tropical. Precession seems to be irrelevent. You can connjure up anything you want but the OP has the info. And cross posted on astro.com I understand it is a touch subject but really it shouldnt be. Edited January 19, 2020 by Mark Sanders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 19, 2020 #156 Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Swede said: Naturally so. Without bothering to address the various archaeological/historical/cultural errors, are you familiar with the astronomical phenomenon known as prescession? Your "precise" dates are inherently inaccurate. Heretic! Heretic! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted January 19, 2020 #157 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Piney said: I already mentioned precession of the equinoxes way back. Note correction to #152. Typos do so annoy me. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 19, 2020 #158 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Sanders said: I'linked dozens in the OP. Why so lazy? No, you think you did. But you didn’t. What you did was pluck a series of keystone events from the Bible and create through some arcane process (probably involving a degree of straw clutching), an astrological chart relative to that event. You then go on to say that the Bible is a record of those events but equally that the events of the Bible are immaterial to your central premise of special somethings happening in the sky. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #159 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Dont be too hung up on dates, or precession. It is about matching the story with the relative position of the planets. With the given dates and the given calendar system you can recreate tge skies. If you use a different date for a diffent system fine. It does not take away a thing. Again it is about matching up a story with the skies. Not your dates or events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2020 #160 Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, toast said: Heretic! Heretic! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #161 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: No, you think you did. But you didn’t. What you did was pluck a series of keystone events from the Bible and create through some arcane process (probably involving a degree of straw clutching), an astrological chart relative to that event. You then go on to say that the Bible is a record of those events but equally that the events of the Bible are immaterial to your central premise of special somethings happening in the sky. No im not saying special things happening in the sky. Nothing special. Why are you putting words in my mouth? What did you do last full moon? Hell do i know, but it was an 'event' Or tomorrow at dawn... Edited January 19, 2020 by Mark Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 19, 2020 #162 Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark Sanders said: No im not saying special things happening in the sky. Nothing special. Why are you putting words in my mouth? What did you do last full moon? Hell do i know, but it was an 'event' Or tomorrow at dawn... So your theory has nothing to do with the events in the Bible, nothing to do with historical events, has dates of no worthwhile note encoded into it and seemingly, exists only to confuse people on the Internet. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #163 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: So your theory has nothing to do with the events in the Bible, nothing to do with historical events, has dates of no worthwhile note encoded into it and seemingly, exists only to confuse people on the Internet. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 19, 2020 #164 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, Mark Sanders said: Bingo NURSE! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #165 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) Biblical events never happened. Only as celestial objects passing by, observed by astrologers. And noted by scribes. The same as every other passing day. This is no magic, simple observation. Easy to reproduce as their methods were crude as well. Edited January 19, 2020 by Mark Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2020 #166 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mark Sanders said: Bingo So why post it? If it connects to nothing, has no purpose, just nothing. Then what was the point of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #167 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: So why post it? If it connects to nothing, has no purpose, just nothing. Then what was the point of it? Well did you know this? To me it was a mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 19, 2020 #168 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, Mark Sanders said: Well did you know this? To me it was a mystery I don't see the point in it. It serves no functional purpose. Points to nothing significant, nor validates anything historic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 19, 2020 Author #169 Share Posted January 19, 2020 How you judge it is a different topic though. This is about demonstrating correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 20, 2020 #170 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mark Sanders said: This is about demonstrating correlation. Or creating it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 20, 2020 Author #171 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: Or creating it. Right and that is why i presented it on 2 fora to put it to the test But i barely get past hello Edited January 20, 2020 by Mark Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted January 20, 2020 #172 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Mark Sanders said: i thought this was an unexplained-mysteries forum. im demonstrating something that has yet to be explained. but for some reason people are offended or for whatever reason do not want to look at what is presented, which is pretty straight forward really. or show me someone else that explains the story of Ham, or Jacob/Esau, or Isaac/Rebecca to you through the stars. What about the birth and death of Abraham, death and burial of Sarah. Not to mention the deeper levels that are tied into these. We have barely passed hello, lol. People seem to be very close minded here. Not offended at all, gosh no. I like to be as open minded as I can. However, I haven't seen much in this thread and was simply asking the bottom line from you. As far as those names from the Bible are concerned, you're assuming those are all real people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Sanders Posted January 20, 2020 Author #173 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Trelane said: Not offended at all, gosh no. I like to be as open minded as I can. However, I haven't seen much in this thread and was simply asking the bottom line from you. As far as those names from the Bible are concerned, you're assuming those are all real people. No, characters in stories. But reading about these characters allows us to pinpoint the planets and consequently get a date in whatever calendar you are running. But real wars are fought over these stories. Especially the Ishmael or Esau vs Jacob branches. Edited January 20, 2020 by Mark Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 20, 2020 #174 Share Posted January 20, 2020 53 minutes ago, Mark Sanders said: Right and that is why i presented it on 2 fora to put it to the test But i barely get past hello And on both of those forae (IIRC) you were met with educated skepticism, universal misunderstanding and at least one Doctor Who reference. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted January 20, 2020 #175 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, XenoFish said: The abrahamic religions were created from older myths and stories. @Davros of Skaro @eight bits a little assistance is needed. The OP is on a patternicity high. He's a parallel-O-mania junkie. Edited January 20, 2020 by Davros of Skaro 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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