Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 #1 Share Posted January 25, 2020 God first As I read it gets sick because think it is special but it only a book written by King James the who took credit for it. The books like Genesis, Mark, Revelation, and The Antiquites of the Jews, Flavius Josephus Against Apion and other books unto themselves. The Bible has no part of these book it is a lie play on Man of God. Whether you believe in God has no meaning at all you see I am a believer-unbeliever, believer-atheist and other things. My grammar is poor and I am sorry that you deal with so poor gramar, My spelling is poor I am just mix up person that loves God and is honest about his feeling, So I call myself believer-atheist because I tried to believe 100% percent but I can not 80% percent believe in God in about 20% percent does not. No matte who you one can not 100% percent of any thing. What are you because if you believe that there night be .001 percent in something more than you you might 99% percent atheist and 1% percent believer some part wants to believe and you have your right. I came to this board as someone wrote post for a while but may began to share my views with that care I went to visit a old board I had not visit that board for longer than I share and they were playing games on that board written as me but I did not write they edit what I once wrote adding to it. Just because most of you are Atheist on this but you would play hateful games this is known for respect and you would never do that here I am sorry that I can tell more my tears of love no matter what you believe thank you Roy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted January 25, 2020 #2 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The truth is that we are a 300,000 year old species of bipedal monkeys living on a 4,5 billion year old planet, in a 13,8 billion year old universe, and that we invented gods to explain it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #3 Share Posted January 25, 2020 thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Old Man Posted January 25, 2020 #4 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I believe the god, and his son Jesus who is true savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #5 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Me too thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Now that I feel little better thank you all for sharing love and truth with me I can get some sleep now Roy William Perry III mown as yea2027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlookerofmayhem Posted January 25, 2020 #7 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Nothing I've ever experienced or been presented has given me any inkling that a god can or does exist. The bible is a fairytale. IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #8 Share Posted January 25, 2020 `Yes the bible is a fairytale to me too but so is atheist the belief there is no God God is just some believe in and some like do not no more and no less to make a belief real one must believe with all their heart that the thing that God real or not it is not any book that make God real and unbelief does not God real to some fairytale but did think the rose that high I believe it is lower than that Nor does it seem real God real to you you choice to believe while choice to believe I am one side of the coin and you are the other side of the coin We both have our own believes I believe in a God you do not We must have both side of a coin one is no greater than the other side peace my friend thank you Roy William Perry III known as year2027 on the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K Posted January 25, 2020 #9 Share Posted January 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Roy Perry said: `Yes the bible is a fairytale to me too but so is atheist the belief there is no God Atheism is not fantasy. Division of Consciousness is. This experience is one of very, very convincing dis-association from oneself as The Consciousness and dissociation in the form of thought projected multiplicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #10 Share Posted January 25, 2020 My God is real to me God is not dream to me to you not beliving in God is real to you you can prove to me there no God nor can I prove to you there is a God thank you Roy William Perry III known as year2027 on the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 25, 2020 #11 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I figure belief in god is just an emotional need. The need to feel important. A band-aid for an existential crisis. The surrogate ethereal parent. Result social and cultural indoctrination. God is only as real as you believe it to, that doesn't mean god is real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted January 25, 2020 #12 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) If you are rich and/or powerful enough...apparently, you can create your own "truth," or at least enforce it. Edited January 25, 2020 by GlitterRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirnum Posted January 25, 2020 #13 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I like to say that i believe in the truth. And I trust that the truth is what it is, and not whatever i might think or believe it is. In that way I don`t believe anything about the truth, while I'm open to its presence. I think both believers and non-believers can agree on such a thing. But I have been wrong before :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted January 25, 2020 XenoFish my friend for a long time if they are for evidence there is no God the faith they have is void of any faith there is no God But If I look for evidence there is a God the faith I have is void of any faith the is a God But if I do as you say Quote Believe in the possibility{there is a God or there is no God} of what you aim to do, hold it strongly in your mind, and act as if it could happen. thank you my friend Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #15 Share Posted January 25, 2020 GlitterRose and Skirnum thank you I enjoy the songs it i good to be open minded I am too thank you Roy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted January 25, 2020 #16 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What is truth? What a great question. If only such a topic like this had been thought of before?!! Sigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #17 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Guyver It properly has I was so upset anything work for me I got upset and you and these friend have me alot thank you Roy my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jujo-jo Posted January 25, 2020 #18 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Roy Perry said: God first As I read it gets sick because think it is special but it only a book written by King James the who took credit for it. The books like Genesis, Mark, Revelation, and The Antiquites of the Jews, Flavius Josephus Against Apion and other books unto themselves. The Bible has no part of these book it is a lie play on Man of God. Whether you believe in God has no meaning at all you see I am a believer-unbeliever, believer-atheist and other things. My grammar is poor and I am sorry that you deal with so poor gramar, My spelling is poor I am just mix up person that loves God and is honest about his feeling, So I call myself believer-atheist because I tried to believe 100% percent but I can not 80% percent believe in God in about 20% percent does not. No matte who you one can not 100% percent of any thing. What are you because if you believe that there night be .001 percent in something more than you you might 99% percent atheist and 1% percent believer some part wants to believe and you have your right. I came to this board as someone wrote post for a while but may began to share my views with that care I went to visit a old board I had not visit that board for longer than I share and they were playing games on that board written as me but I did not write they edit what I once wrote adding to it. Just because most of you are Atheist on this but you would play hateful games this is known for respect and you would never do that here I am sorry that I can tell more my tears of love no matter what you believe thank you Roy What is truth? is the Bible a lie? where is truth? truth /tro͞oTH/ noun *the quality or state of being true. *that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. noun: the truth "tell me the truth" *a fact or belief that is accepted as true. plural noun: truths "the emergence of scientific truths" *Truth is most often used to mean being in accord with fact or reality, or fidelity to an original or standard. Truth is also sometimes defined in modern contexts as an idea of "truth to self", or authenticity. IN MY OPINION I don't believe the bible is a lie. I was a skeptic on and off in my younger years but as I studied different religions and asked these same questions, the experiences during these times are what convinced me. Not the words or the book of the bible itself, true to life experiences are what made me, the believer that I am today. Therefore truth to me is the truth I know in my heart and being truthful to myself and to my beliefs are what is important. Only after I reached this point could I believe the truth behind the words in the it Bible. As I grow and learn and experience my spiritual growth my faith grows. I understand now why certain stories were documented. The trust I have in God and in Jesus and in my personal knowing is all the proof of truth that I need. This is where my truth is. Nonbelievers will argue the facts and demand scientific proof while cought up in all that they may be missing the whole point, that it's not about scientific proof at all and even if there were and it is right in front of their face they still would find an argument within it. PROOF: the effect of evidence sufficient to persuade a reasonable person that a particular fact exists — see also evidence. 2 : the establishment or persuasion by evidence that a particular fact exists — see also burden of proof. As I follow articles from archeologist finds that relate to stories that are in the Bible and when they find lost cities of the Bible buried under the sand and other things, I am truely fascinated and sit back in delight. Even though knowing in my heart I do not need proof because proof has been provided to me through other means. People want proof in the clear, here and now something they can hold and touch that is beyond reasonable doubt, they want visuals with live, living color, not 2,500 + year old proof, of weather aged torn down archeologist sites and artifacts, that have been sand blasted; and books and words are irrelevant without more items and locations to link to them. It's actually pretty crazy to even demand that kind of proof from so long ago, especially under the elements of the nature, in that region for all these years. (and actually that is the point, 2 COR 5:7 Walk by faith not by sight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #19 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Jujo-jo Let me give you something to think about What do you worship God or the bible? What is the book, a book, or is it the words in it that put your heart? As you make the words in it live in your heart it becomes alive but a book can never be alive what lives in your heart is alive and cannot die thank you Roy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 25, 2020 #20 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Roy Perry said: XenoFish my friend for a long time if they are for evidence there is no God the faith they have is void of any faith there is no God But If I look for evidence there is a God the faith I have is void of any faith the is a God But if I do as you say Quote Believe in the possibility{there is a God or there is no God} of what you aim to do, hold it strongly in your mind, and act as if it could happen. thank you my friend Roy People miss the point of faith. And that faith depends on whatever religion they choose to follow. A faith without religion is just spirituality and it comes in many varieties. If there is a god, we have no way of knowing. So the only gods we have are those we created. It is not that difficult to understand. If you have faith, then no proof is required. No need to search for evidence. Do not use my quote for your confirmation bias. What I wrote is about taking action in your life. It basically means that if you think you can achieve something (believe it's possible), hold it in you mind (focus on the goal) and act upon it (do something). It has nothing at all to do with spirituality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #21 Share Posted January 25, 2020 16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. inward otherwise from the heart not from reading putting on Christ thank you Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #22 Share Posted January 25, 2020 XenoFish Christ is living in my heart I am trying to see both sides not just the side I believe in thank you Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 25, 2020 #23 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Roy Perry said: XenoFish Christ is living in my heart I am trying to see both sides not just the side I believe in thank you Roy Honestly, what you believe doesn't affect me one bit. You believe in a fictional character, fine. Just know that I don't. God hasn't done a single thing in my life. Because god simply doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Perry Posted January 25, 2020 Author #24 Share Posted January 25, 2020 thank you Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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