stevewinn Posted March 11, 2020 #151 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, toast said: Wrong again, there is no 45% death rate. The 45% value is related to "closed cases" and not related to the number of infected people. It's reported around about 6% mortality rate in those infected. This number would fall by about 2% when taking the total number infected but not confirmed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted March 11, 2020 #152 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, toast said: Wrong again, there is no 44% death rate. The 44% value is related to "closed cases" and not related to the number of infected people. Yes, infected have neither died or recovered. The death to recovering rate is 44%.With the current infected it will day several days before they either die or recover. But the larger the number becomes the more accurate the death rate that will emerge. Edited March 11, 2020 by RabidMongoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted March 12, 2020 #153 Share Posted March 12, 2020 It's not Cholera, or the Black Plague or Small Pox; the vast majority of people who contract it may survive and never know they even had it. It's a serious disease just like any new one, but there have been far worse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatecraft Posted March 12, 2020 #154 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said: It's not Cholera, or the Black Plague or Small Pox; the vast majority of people who contract it may survive and never know they even had it. It's a serious disease just like any new one, but there have been far worse. Sounds just like something a Russian bot would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted March 12, 2020 #155 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, hatecraft said: Sounds just like something a Russian bot would say. You sound like a DNC bot, Russian boogie man and all. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 12, 2020 #156 Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: I predicted Italy would have a 45% death rate by the end of the day.; 2 hours to go and its at 44% https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus-dev/country/italy/ lol You're getting like Angel of Lightness for your ghoulishly gleeful (and just as inaccurate) predictions 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAyMO Posted March 12, 2020 #157 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Must suggestions are a death rate of about 2% generally - higher the older one gets. some countries are suggesting potential infection levels eg Germany 70% using that for the UK roughly 65m x 70% = 45.5m x 2% = 910k. All calculations courtesy of Alexa (just in case they are wrong) Therefore Government concern and action would seem very appropriate. Though personally I believe infection levels of 70% seem a little on the high side - but then again what do I know. Stopping the spread, given the lack of a vaccine would seem to be an appropriate action. Edited March 12, 2020 by RAyMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 12, 2020 #158 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, RAyMO said: some countries are suggesting potential infection levels eg Germany 70% Yes, there was some hysteric yesterday who was predicting that, with just as much glee as Mongoose, and extrapolating that with joy that this means that 500,000 people in Germany will die!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted March 12, 2020 #159 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: You're getting like Angel of Lightness for your ghoulishly gleeful (and just as inaccurate) predictions AOLA™ (Angel of Lightness Award) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skookum Posted March 12, 2020 #160 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: Yes, infected have neither died or recovered. The death to recovering rate is 44%.With the current infected it will day several days before they either die or recover. But the larger the number becomes the more accurate the death rate that will emerge. These are shocking figures. Ok to put it in perspective that is out of roughly 12k infected with 10k yet to have an outcome. But imagine even if the mortality rate falls 50% they are still huge numbers. I suspect the world will be watching Italy very closely. I wonder what the rate is like in Iran. At the moment all we have is China to gather the figures from. China took some very extreme measures and I certainly wouldn't 100% trust what information they have released. Edited March 12, 2020 by skookum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vinyl Posted March 12, 2020 #161 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Regarding the loo-roll 'runs' (Pun kinda intended), I think it is because people believe they are going to be 'locked' in their homes and don't want to have to resort to using the 'three seashells' approach to erm, 'self-hygiene'.. http://www.mtv.com/news/1715032/sandra-bullock-demolition-man-seashells/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 12, 2020 #162 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Schools and colleges to close in Republic of Ireland https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51850811 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 12, 2020 #163 Share Posted March 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, Eldorado said: Schools and colleges to close in Republic of Ireland https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51850811 Absolutely no point to this sort of thing. Because these students and teachers are not going into isolation for the rest of their lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted March 12, 2020 Author #164 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Related: Quote A teenager was sent home from school after being caught selling shots of hand sanitiser to his fellow pupils at 50p a go. His mother, Jenny Tompkins, from Leeds, posted a picture of him arriving home earlier after his entrepreneurial exploits at Dixons Unity Academy. In a post on Facebook, she said it was hard to discipline her son when his "dad called to say he was a legend". He plans to use the £9 he made to buy a kebab, she added. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51843128 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggs Posted March 12, 2020 #165 Share Posted March 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Absolutely no point to this sort of thing. Because these students and teachers are not going into isolation for the rest of their lives. They're not trying to prevent them from * ever * getting it. Containment has failed. This is the mitigation phase. The plan is to spread the number of patients requiring hospital treatment out over time, so that the NHS has a fighting chance of handling this thing. It's a strategy that's being referred to as "Flattening the curve." See here, for details: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/what-flatten-curve-chart-shows-how-critical-it-everyone-fight-n1155636 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted March 12, 2020 #166 Share Posted March 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tiggs said: They're not trying to prevent them from * ever * getting it. Containment has failed. This is the mitigation phase. The plan is to spread the number of patients requiring hospital treatment out over time, so that the NHS has a fighting chance of handling this thing. It's a strategy that's being referred to as "Flattening the curve." See here, for details: https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/what-flatten-curve-chart-shows-how-critical-it-everyone-fight-n1155636 It will be grandparents looking after these kids, they'll be dropping like flies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 12, 2020 #167 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Matt Vinyl said: Regarding the loo-roll 'runs' (Pun kinda intended), I think it is because people believe they are going to be 'locked' in their homes and don't want to have to resort to using the 'three seashells' approach to erm, 'self-hygiene'.. http://www.mtv.com/news/1715032/sandra-bullock-demolition-man-seashells/ I tend to favor the length of string with a knot in the middle technique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBright19 Posted March 12, 2020 #168 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) What about all that shipping traffic coming to Britain? 2pm today - Shipping traffic. Edited March 12, 2020 by Aaron2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 12, 2020 #169 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Update: "The total number of people with coronavirus in the UK has risen to 590. "Two more people were confirmed to have died from the virus in the UK on Thursday, bringing the total to 10, NHS England said. "A total of 29,174 people have been tested across the UK so far." https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-confirmed-uk-cases-boris-johnson-health-department-142447539.html? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted March 12, 2020 #170 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Obviously the figure of 590 people with coronavirus assumes that once you get it you have it for life and no-one ever recovers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 12, 2020 #171 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Coronavirus chaos could mean curtains for Cineworld https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/business/coronavirus-chaos-could-mean-curtains-for-cineworld/ar-BB115xKQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 12, 2020 #172 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) News today: "Whatever number it is cases have now been confirmed, but The Government's Chief Medical Officer has said that the actual number could be 5,000 , or 10,000 , or anything at all really". So in other words he hasn't a clue,and is just throwing scaremongering multiples of 5,000 around off the top of his head. Do we pay taxes for these people whose degree of uselessness seems directly proportional to the grandness of their title? Meanwhile Prime Minster Bo Johnson has been giving us his empathetic cross between Churchill, Maggie Thatcher and Princess Di speechifying. "Many people compare this to flu", he said, "but alas that is not the case." Yes, he said Alas. "we will have to face that many people", sniffs away tear, "will lose loved ones before their time." What a dreadful old ham. Edited March 12, 2020 by Dumbledore the Awesome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted March 12, 2020 #173 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Over 1,000 deaths in Italy compared to 189 yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted March 12, 2020 #174 Share Posted March 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, Mr.United_Nations said: Over 1,000 deaths in Italy compared to 189 yesterday No. 827 on 11MAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 12, 2020 #175 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Eldorado said: Coronavirus chaos could mean curtains for Cineworld https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/business/coronavirus-chaos-could-mean-curtains-for-cineworld/ar-BB115xKQ it could seriously damage not just movie theater business , but entire film making industry as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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