Eldorado Posted March 27, 2021 #2151 Share Posted March 27, 2021 4,715 new cases and 58 new deaths worldometers Covid roadmap on track but unanswered questions about impact of Europe third wave itv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 28, 2021 #2152 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3,862 new cases and 19 new deaths People vaccinated up to and including 27 March 2021 First dose: 30,151,287 Second dose: 3,527,481 gov.uk UK hits 30 million first coronavirus vaccine doses - 57% of all adults news.sky 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 28, 2021 #2153 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Wow nearly 60%. Plus the 20% acquired natural immunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 29, 2021 #2154 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 hours ago, stevewinn said: Wow nearly 60%. Plus the 20% acquired natural immunity. No, some of those 20% will also have received the vaccine. So true figure is somewhere between 60 and 80%. And that's only first dose. Still amazing but let's not undermine it with misrepresentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 29, 2021 #2155 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Setton said: No, some of those 20% will also have received the vaccine. So true figure is somewhere between 60 and 80%. And that's only first dose. Still amazing but let's not undermine it with misrepresentation. We must be closer to 80% and let's not forget 95% of the vulnerable group. And 90%+ for over 65's done. Brilliant. Hospitalisation down deaths down. The vaccine at one dose is brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 29, 2021 #2156 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4,654 new cases and 23 new deaths People vaccinated up to and including 28 March 2021 First dose: 30,444,829 Second dose: 3,674,266 https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ Roadmap out of lockdown - here's what's happening across the UK news.sky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saru Posted March 30, 2021 #2158 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 11:16 AM, stevewinn said: let's not forget 95% of the vulnerable group. Don't forget that as many as 2 million clinically vulnerable asthmatics were dumped out of group 6 at the last minute to help expedite the government's vaccination and lockdown-easing targets. There will still be a lot of unvaccinated, vulnerable people out there as things open back up. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2159 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 11:16 AM, stevewinn said: We must be closer to 80% and let's not forget 95% of the vulnerable group. And 90%+ for over 65's done. Brilliant. Hospitalisation down deaths down. The vaccine at one dose is brilliant 55% is the real world number in England. Unclear if this includes children as well though. Quote BBC News - Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56576094 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 30, 2021 #2160 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Setton said: 55% is the real world number in England. Unclear if this includes children as well though. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56576094 Brilliant achievement. Just gets better and better. 2 hours ago, Saru said: Don't forget that as many as 2 million clinically vulnerable asthmatics were dumped out of group 6 at the last minute to help expedite the government's vaccination and lockdown-easing targets. There will still be a lot of unvaccinated, vulnerable people out there as things open back up. They'll just have to wait their turn, as all others have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted March 30, 2021 #2161 Share Posted March 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, stevewinn said: They'll just have to wait their turn, as all others have. (Almost) everyone else with a medical condition that puts them at increased risk from Covid has been offered a vaccine in either group 4 or 6. Asthmatics were promised a priority vaccine in group 6 and then had that taken away from them. So they've lost their turn and in many cases perfectly healthy people will now get the vaccine before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 30, 2021 #2162 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saru said: (Almost) everyone else with a medical condition that puts them at increased risk from Covid has been offered a vaccine in either group 4 or 6. Asthmatics were promised a priority vaccine in group 6 and then had that taken away from them. So they've lost their turn and in many cases perfectly healthy people will now get the vaccine before them. I'm sure they'll be thankful when their turn comes. With the excellent world beating vaccine rollout it'll be sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2163 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stevewinn said: I'm sure they'll be thankful when their turn comes. With the excellent world beating vaccine rollout it'll be sooner rather than later. If I'm still breathing when it finally comes, sure I'll be thankful for it. If, on the other hand, I've caught covid while being forced to come into work and put in danger by a government that puts headlines over safety, I may be somewhat less grateful. Quite happy to be the case study here. I'm 29 so I'll be in the last group vaccinated. According to the covid risk assessment the government has recommended, I have a covid age of 48. That means I'm at the same risk as a 48 year old. Yet that same government has decided to vaccinate me after a healthy 31 year old. Edited March 30, 2021 by Setton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted March 30, 2021 #2164 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, stevewinn said: I'm sure they'll be thankful when their turn comes. With the excellent world beating vaccine rollout it'll be sooner rather than later. I can assure you that those impacted and their families are anything but thankful for the situation they currently find themselves in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 30, 2021 #2165 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Setton said: If I'm still breathing when it finally comes, sure I'll be thankful for it. If, on the other hand, I've caught covid while being forced to come into work and put in danger by a government that puts headlines over safety, I may be somewhat less grateful. Always so negative. Try thinking of others who are worse off. You've 'survived' a whole year of the worse pandemic EVER, so keep doing what you've been doing and wait your turn. And be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 30, 2021 #2166 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saru said: I can assure you that those impacted and their families are anything but thankful for the situation they currently find themselves in. Yes, I'm sure. If people are so determined why don't they do what a friend and his wife did recently - But hold on to your seat here, because it involves thinking for oneself and that is phone the local clinic every day and get the spare vaccine that's left because people failed to turn up. Mind blowing I know. Or just sit wait and moan. Much easier. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2167 Share Posted March 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Always so negative. Try thinking of others who are worse off. You've 'survived' a whole year of the worse pandemic EVER, so keep doing what you've been doing and wait your turn. And be happy. Worse off? If they're worse off, they've already had their vaccine. And yet I'm still in the office, at increased risk, despite having covered for them when they were more vulnerable. I've survived a year with strict controls in place. Those controls will be gone before I am vaccinated. As for 'wait your turn', I've been putting myself at risk to keep you safe for a year while you were sat at home. Now you're quite willing to put me in extra danger for literally no reason. So you can kindly do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted March 30, 2021 #2168 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, stevewinn said: Yes, I'm sure. If people are so determined why don't they do what a friend and his wife did recently - But hold on to your seat here, because it involves thinking for oneself and that is phone the local clinic every day and get the spare vaccine that's left because people failed to turn up. Mind blowing I know. Or just sit wait and moan. Much easier. Sad. If you'd bothered to research this issue in the slightest you'd have known that it doesn't work like that. Thinking for oneself typically involves finding out what's actually going on instead of accepting the government's official narrative at face value. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2169 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Yes, I'm sure. If people are so determined why don't they do what a friend and his wife did recently - But hold on to your seat here, because it involves thinking for oneself and that is phone the local clinic every day and get the spare vaccine that's left because people failed to turn up. Mind blowing I know. Or just sit wait and moan. Much easier. Sad. Or perhaps we've already done that and are still waiting. Why should it be a lottery depending how many your local centre has left over each day rather than the government actually taking responsibility for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 30, 2021 #2170 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 4,040 new cases and 56 new deaths People vaccinated up to and including 29 March 2021 First dose: 30,680,948 Second dose: 3,838,010 UK Gov Police have warned people to stick to coronavirus rules after large crowds were seen brawling and drinking in a city park on the day restrictions eased. BBC Nottingham Over 50 per cent of people in England people have Covid-19 antibodies from either being infected or vaccination as deaths fall to the lowest level since October, figures show. There were 963 deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending March 19 where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS). This is the lowest number since the week ending October 16 and the first time the weekly death toll has fallen below 1,000 since the following week. UK Standard Edited March 30, 2021 by Eldorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2171 Share Posted March 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, stevewinn said: Yes, I'm sure. If people are so determined why don't they do what a friend and his wife did recently - But hold on to your seat here, because it involves thinking for oneself and that is phone the local clinic every day and get the spare vaccine that's left because people failed to turn up. Mind blowing I know. Or just sit wait and moan. Much easier. Sad. Well that was impeccable timing. The response from my local health centre a week after I inquired about exactly that: Quote We try to ensure all our vaccine clinics are fully booked but on the rare occasion if we do have spares then they are offered to people in the eligibility groups, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 30, 2021 #2172 Share Posted March 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Setton said: Worse off? If they're worse off, they've already had their vaccine. And yet I'm still in the office, at increased risk, despite having covered for them when they were more vulnerable. I've survived a year with strict controls in place. Those controls will be gone before I am vaccinated. As for 'wait your turn', I've been putting myself at risk to keep you safe for a year while you were sat at home. Now you're quite willing to put me in extra danger for literally no reason. So you can kindly do one. You need to learn to be more selfless. There are people worse off than yourself. 8 minutes ago, Saru said: If you'd bothered to research this issue in the slightest you'd have known that it doesn't work like that. Thinking for oneself typically involves finding out what's actually going on instead of accepting the government's official narrative at face value. Have you rung your local clinic? If not why not And if you have send me your number and postcode I bet I'll get you slot within a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted March 30, 2021 #2173 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Setton said: Well that was impeccable timing. The response from my local health centre a week after I inquired about exactly that: Need to be more proactive. Ring every day. And even call in, in person on the off chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2174 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, stevewinn said: You need to learn to be more selfless. There are people worse off than yourself. There are also people a lot better off than me. Why should I be a lower priority than them? Quote Have you rung your local clinic? If not why not And if you have send me your number and postcode I bet I'll get you slot within a week. Again: 4 minutes ago, Setton said: Well that was impeccable timing. The response from my local health centre a week after I inquired about exactly that: Quote We try to ensure all our vaccine clinics are fully booked but on the rare occasion if we do have spares then they are offered to people in the eligibility groups, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 30, 2021 #2175 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, stevewinn said: Need to be more proactive. Ring every day. And even call in, in person on the off chance. And how do you suggest I do that when, I repeat: I AM AT WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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