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Coronavirus cases confirmed in the UK

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Space Commander Travis

I'm just trying to draw people's attention to the creeping fascism of Johnson's administration. Never before in the history of British "democracy" has a government commanded that businesses close like this, not even in the World Wars or the Great Depression; never before has the Government claimed to promise to pay (80% of) everyone's wages because the Government has closed their places of work. The Government now totally controls the lives of millions of people. If you really can't see how totalitarian the Johnson regime has become, in an incredibly short space of time, then you really must have a complete ignorance of the way that totalitarian regimes work. (And yes, I know it's exactly the same with Macron in France, and with the governors of several US States, notably California). What a glorious opportunity this is for the dictator in every politician to come bursting out. And how helpful for the Johnson regime that it happens when there is no effective opposition; disable your opponent with a relentless campaign of smears and then the way is open for you to do whatever you like and no one will question or challenge you because [wring hands sanctimoniously] you're just trying to save lives

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Space Commander Travis

I must remember to panic-buy a few bottles of whisky before Johnson issues the order for us all to remain in our homes, it seems about the only way to survive the realization that you're living under an actual dictatorship. 

And remember ... you elected him. 

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Eldorado

Brits are defying a call for social distancing by hitting the pubs and restaurants for "one last night of freedom".

UK Mirror: Link

What a surprise.  lol

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skookum
9 hours ago, Eldorado said:

Brits are defying a call for social distancing by hitting the pubs and restaurants for "one last night of freedom".

UK Mirror: Link

What a surprise.  lol

I see now social media is starting on the  non food shops to close.

My wife is trying to get some food today. She sat in the car park waiting for a space. She observed at least 3 couples return to their car load it up and return to the store. I guess that gets them round the maximum of 3 of any item.

She has just text me waiting at the till. Its all kicking off as somebody has been refused purchase of 20 pints of milk.

 

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Setton
11 minutes ago, skookum said:

She has just text me waiting at the till. Its all kicking off as somebody has been refused purchase of 20 pints of milk.

This is the one that gets me - they do know milk doesn't keep, right? 

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toast
10 hours ago, Eldorado said:

Brits are defying a call for social distancing by hitting the pubs and restaurants for "one last night of freedom".

UK Mirror: Link

What a surprise.  lol

Give the virus a chance! Free COVID19! Now!

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RAyMO

changing stance for the sake of argument, 

Are we now seeing, in the government response to covid 19, a Tory Government with a large majority switching to 'leftist' polices. The latest is that they may take shares in large businesses affected by the ramifications of covid 19, eg airlines. 

shares in companies, increases in benefits, subsidy of wages in return for guarantees of employment etc, 

Policies Corbyn would have been proud of.

Not saying anything wrong with these moves, just wondering if such a dramatic shift left, in such trying times, has any underlying messages.

Oh and off course Boris said in one of his daily meanderings that 'this time, unlike 2008, we will help the people really affected'

 

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Eldorado

The latest developments across the world

  • Spain's death toll rises to 1,326 - up from 1,002, says its health ministry
  • Hong Kong says an influx of people returning from overseas is likely to lead to a community outbreak
  • China gives Greece more than one million masks and other medical supplies
  • South Korea advises its citizens to stop socialising for 15 days and warns of consequences if the rules are broken
  • Ireland is reportedly considering a plan to pay up to 75% of workers' wages
  • Germany's southwestern state Baden-Wuerttemberg opens hospitals to patients from the neighbouring region of eastern France
  • Air raid sirens have echoed across Jordan's capital to mark the start of a three-day curfew
  • Mauritius confirms its first death from the coronavirus
  • Georgia's PM has asked the country's president to declare a one-month emergency

At Sky News: Link

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Eldorado

"Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, said in an appearance before the Health Select Committee, that the hope was to keep the death toll below 20,000 by suppressing the virus.

"That would still be worse than those killed by flu, he said, giving a number of 8,000 per year.

"He said limiting deaths to 20,000 would be "horrible" but still represented a "good outcome" given where we are."

At the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

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L.A.T.1961

The number of coronavirus-related deaths across the UK is now 233.

The most recent 53 deaths in England were people aged 41 to 94 who had underlying health conditions, NHS England said.

The NHS has struck a deal with private hospitals to acquire thousands of extra beds, ventilators and medical staff to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

An extra 8,000 hospital beds across England, nearly 1,200 ventilators and almost 20,000 fully qualified staff will be available from next week. The additional staff includes 10,000 nurses, more than 700 doctors and more than 8,000 other clinical staff, who will be joining the health service to help manage an expected surge in cases, said NHS England. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51989183

 

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L.A.T.1961

Formula 1 teams are working with government and health authorities to increase the supply of ventilators. A number of teams have applied-technologies divisions that could directly feed into the national production capacity of ventilators in the UK.

The idea is to increase the supply of the existing design of ventilators rather than try to come up with a new approach. The UK is estimated to need an extra 20,000 ventilators to deal with the crisis as it develops over the coming months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51963897

 

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L.A.T.1961

Supermarkets Tesco, Asda, Aldi and Lidl go on hiring spree.

Supermarkets have gone on a hiring spree as demand surges as a result of the coronavirus crisis. Tesco, Asda, Aldi, and Lidl said they would hire thousands of staff after hugely increased demand saw shoppers clearing shelves.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51976075

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Eldorado

"Doctors are to begin giving critically ill COVID-19 patients a new treatment as soon as Monday.

"The experimental drug, code named SNG001, will initially be given to patients at Southampton General Hospital as part of the first trial of its kind.

"The inhaled treatment has already been shown to improve the recovery of asthma and COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) patients who have other lung infections, such as flu."

Sky news: Link

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Eldorado

UK infected rise by 1,035 to 5,018

"Across the UK there were 1,035 new confirmed cases bringing the overall total to 5,018.

"The coronavirus death toll in the UK has now reached 233 after it was announced a further 56 people have died after testing positive."

Full brief report at the Dorset Echo: Link

And Glasgow Live: Link

 

UK COVID-19 Tracker at Public Health England: Link

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Space Commander Travis

How long before the fake panicky little fraud goes full dictator and announces a clampdown on "fake news " (i.e. anyone who offers any dissent whatsoever) and that controls will have to be put on the internet (there not being any kind of mainstream opposition media these days). 

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L.A.T.1961

MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC HAVE CONFIDENCE IN BORIS  

Contrary to what you might expect if you only read Guardian columnists suffering from *BDS or spend too much time on Twitter, the public are in the majority confident that the Prime Minister is making the right decisions when it comes to Coronavirus. :nw: :D

*Boris Derangement Syndrome.

https://order-order.com/2020/03/21/majority-public-confidence-boris/

 

Boris Johnson has now matched Margaret Thatcher’s polling height of 52% of the country backing the Conservatives. A new poll by Ipsos MORI, the fieldwork for which concluded on Monday, has found that Boris rose by five points since the General Election to hit 52%. Boris’ personal satisfaction matches that of his party, at 52%. 

https://order-order.com/2020/03/19/tories-reach-highest-poll-standing-since-1983/ 

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Eldorado

For the UK folks who are "at risk":  Elderly and chronic-sick.

"Dr Paul Johnstone from Public Health England said:

""The NHS are contacting the people who are most vulnerable to developing a very serious illness as a result of Covid-19 with specific advice to stay at home for at least 12 weeks.

""If you receive a letter it is vitally important that you act on it for your own protection, don't attend any gatherings of friends or families and don't go out for shopping, leisure or travel.""

BBC: Link

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Eldorado
On 3/18/2020 at 6:46 PM, stevewinn said:

and then they recover and carry on. As we've seen with S.Korean patients. 

"COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function"

"Chinese researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19.

"Scans suggest sustained organ damage."

DW Germany: Link

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Eldorado
Retired medics answer the call.
 

 

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stevewinn
6 hours ago, Eldorado said:

"COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function"

"Chinese researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19.

"Scans suggest sustained organ damage."

DW Germany: Link

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A study of 12 patients.

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RAyMO
10 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Contrary to what you might expect if you only read Guardian columnists suffering from *BDS or spend too much time on Twitter, the public are in the majority confident that the Prime Minister is making the right decisions when it comes to Coronavirus.

that may be so, it does not mean he is making the right decisions though. Personally I think he is, but too slowly, badly thought out before announcing, and too much delay before implementation

  • School closures were a fiasco, closed but not closed and only vague directions to schools, subsequently overwritten by answers to questions on TV;
  • Advising people to avoid pubs, etc, but not closing them until later and even then encouraging last minute binges
  • Announcing grants for business with no direction on how to apply (even today)
  • Announcing wage subsides but giving businesses no idea how this will work until April 
  • mixed messages on herd immunity......
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Essan
12 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

 

  • Announcing grants for business with no direction on how to apply (even today)

My local council has been contacting businesses daily to keep us up to date with what is happening.  There is no need to apply - payments will be made automatically as soon as the council receive the funds from central government (expected early April)

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RAyMO
3 minutes ago, Essan said:

My local council has been contacting businesses daily to keep us up to date with what is happening.  There is no need to apply - payments will be made automatically as soon as the council receive the funds from central government (expected early April)

OK so add different approaches by local councils, 

but thanks for letting me know how at least one council is being pro active.

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Essan
Just now, RAyMO said:

OK so add different approaches by local councils,

Quite probable!   So far our council seems to be acting well.  There is also an initiative underway contacting every household asking whether they need help or can offer help.  

 

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Mr.United_Nations
9 hours ago, Eldorado said:

"COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function"

"Chinese researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19.

"Scans suggest sustained organ damage."

DW Germany: Link

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First I've seen this, it needs more study and for all we know they might of been heavy smokers

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