+susieice Posted April 23, 2020 #751 Share Posted April 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, spud the mackem said: I hope it works , X fingers Me too spud. There's several tests being conducted here in the US where the test subjects should be nearing time for their second injections. Let's all keep our fingers crossed that somewhere we will find something that works. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 24, 2020 #752 Share Posted April 24, 2020 The trend continues downwards for daily deaths and Hospital admissions. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted April 24, 2020 #753 Share Posted April 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, stevewinn said: The trend continues downwards for daily deaths and Hospital admissions Yesterday there were 4,563 new cases and 616 fatalities reported. Today there has been 5,386 new cases and 684 fatalities reported. That's a downward trend? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted April 24, 2020 #754 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 6:04 PM, Setton said: I believe a certain imbecile who will remain nameless was claiming COVID-19 wasn't causing deaths beyond the usual... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52361519 I am baffled by the coronavirus deniers! I don't know if their denial is a defence mechanism, a want of understanding, or they genuinely believe it's all a big hoax. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 24, 2020 #755 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Eldorado said: Yesterday there were 4,563 new cases and 616 fatalities reported. Today there has been 5,386 new cases and 684 fatalities reported. That's a downward trend? Understanding the detail behind the numbers. Hospital delays in reporting deaths. (paper work being completed) Take the 616 deaths announced yesterday. some deaths date back to 11th March. (due to error in NHS Wales reporting) in fact there are 123 deaths reported for 30 different dates. (see the orange part of the pillars dating all the way back) (graph below) Deaths for yesterday 23rd April was 107 reported on the actual day. 336 from 22nd April, and so on and so forth adding up all the newly reported deaths until you reach 587(England only) add Sct/N.I/Wal figures and you reach the 616 deaths announced. The actual days figures are always revised up as we know more deaths will have occurred on that day. but even revising up as see a downward trend it daily death rates. The last three weeks (NHS England) April 10th - 866 April 17th - 738 April 24th - 587 On the testing and more positive cases. its true cases increased by 3.9% today from yesterdays numbers. but 18,000 tests where done. the numbers of positive cases will increase due to increased testing. but its the positivity rate that you look at on the 17th April (last week) cases testing positive where 40.16% to days testing with a higher rate of testing a positivity rate was 29.27%. down from 40.16% to 29.27% There was also a 13% fall in patients in critical care. a 10% drop in people in Hospital with covid19. (see graphs below) and to end on. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted April 24, 2020 #756 Share Posted April 24, 2020 This is a happy story. Scotland's youngest covid-19 patient, a little girl born 8 weeks premature, has defeated the virus at the age of 3 weeks. She had tested positive and has now had 2 consecutive negative tests. https://www.fox29.com/news/premature-baby-with-coronavirus-believed-to-be-scotlands-youngest-covid-19-patient-defeats-virus?fbclid=IwAR0BH4ra1vatAPauI2IbrTbJ2Qc3CZdiWH9mLhtWWM6MBrUIo9-Ua97Sqyk 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted April 25, 2020 #757 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Well, did you see that, far, it seems,from being overwhelmed with SARS-CoV-2 cases, as was the justification for the Johnson* government's kneejerk panic ("Don't bother the NHS! The NHS is only interested in SARS-CoV-2! For ****'s sake don't bother them with anything unimportant,and anything other than SARS-CoV-2 is unimportant!!"), the NHS is now, effectively, begging people who might have serious and urgent conditions which aren't SARS-CoV-2 to come and seek help? That it's been scientifically shown that there has indeed been a massive spike in the number of deaths recently, but that the overwhelming majority of those are people who should have sought aid for serious conditions like cancer or heart conditions, but didn't on account of the relentless Government propaganda "not to bother the NHS!!!"? There should be a serious reckoning some day, and those responsible really ought to be held to account. They never will of course, because they'll be basking in the glow of public gratitude for "leading the war against The Virus", and for "saving the NHS" (budget in last financial year: £140.something billion) * what's happened to him now? Has he abdicated and left Dominic Raaab in charge? Edited April 25, 2020 by Dumbledore the Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 25, 2020 #758 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said: Well, did you see that, far, it seems,from being overwhelmed with SARS-CoV-2 cases, as was the justification for the Johnson* government's kneejerk panic ("Don't bother the NHS! The NHS is only interested in SARS-CoV-2! For ****'s sake don't bother them with anything unimportant,and anything other than SARS-CoV-2 is unimportant!!"), the NHS is now, effectively, begging people who might have serious and urgent conditions which aren't SARS-CoV-2 to come and seek help? That it's been scientifically shown that there has indeed been a massive spike in the number of deaths recently, but that the overwhelming majority of those are people who should have sought aid for serious conditions like cancer or heart conditions, but didn't on account of the relentless Government propaganda "not to bother the NHS!!!"? There should be a serious reckoning some day, and those responsible really ought to be held to account. They never will of course, because they'll be basking in the glow of public gratitude for "leading the war against The Virus", and for "saving the NHS" (budget in last financial year: £140.something billion) * what's happened to him now? Has he abdicated and left Dominic Raaab in charge? when did the Govt tell people with cancer or heart conditions to stay away. they haven't. the reason people are staying away is the media reporting as put the fear of god into them. from giving the impression the NHS was about to collapse, and if you get the virus that's it your dead. you'd think no-one survives. Media - Virus deaths 200,000 Media - showing patients in critical care, (especially scenes from Italian Hospitals, patients with oxygen full head masks on. showing Italian hospital being overwhelmed) Media - NHS to run out of Beds. Media - NHS not enough ventilators. Media - NHS no PPE. Media - NHS running out of Oxygen. You only have to look on here, there is a massive disconnect between the facts and media reporting. and sadly the media have the power of media from radio to TV, to online, Social media etc... every single day i've listened to the Govt Brief and listened carefully to what's said by the health experts, the numbers.Things started to go in the right direction, downward trend and the media start looking for more deaths, the method of counting deaths was acceptable to them when the numbers where going in the right direction (Up). Now a new method of counting is now needed, led by the FT. were on 20,000 deaths the media want 40,000. absolutely no praise whatsoever. there will have been govt failings and equally NHS failings in this national emergency, the world was caught on the back foot.The UK Govt has followed the science/experts advice and built capacity in the NHS. the rest is trivial media crap for gullible consumption. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 25, 2020 #759 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Downward trend continues. 813 Deaths. (Date of death below) (105 died 24th April) confirmed cases rate 21.25% down from 29.27% (yesterday) Today’s reported figure is 711 deaths in hospitals in England. ( these deaths are distributed back to the 11th of March) Of the 711, deaths 486 (68%) occurred in the last 7 days and 225 (32%) deaths occurred between the 11th March and the 17th April England: 711 - 105 occurred yesterday, 606 occurred between 11 March and 23 April. Scotland: (+29) Wales: (+23) NI:(+15) Edited April 25, 2020 by stevewinn 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted April 25, 2020 #760 Share Posted April 25, 2020 "If UK death toll is kept below 20,000, "we will have done very well" - NHS England medical director Prof Stephen Powis" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/52075063 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 25, 2020 #761 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Eldorado said: "If UK death toll is kept below 20,000, "we will have done very well" - NHS England medical director Prof Stephen Powis" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/52075063 Apparently, the phrase "we'll do really well to keep deaths under 20,000" now means "if the total goes over 20,000, we've instantly failed". We'll done the media. Edited April 25, 2020 by stevewinn 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted April 25, 2020 #762 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, stevewinn said: Apparently, the phrase "we'll do really well to keep deaths under 20000" now means "if the total goes over 20,000, we've instantly failed". We'll done the media. The UK's beloved morning talk show beta male Peirs Morgan has been touting all week that number to double to over 45K due to the yet to be reported household deaths 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted April 25, 2020 #763 Share Posted April 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, acidhead said: The UK's beloved morning talk show beta male Peirs Morgan has been touting all week that number to double to over 45K due to the yet to be reported household deaths One thing the press have not deployed as a club to use against the government is undertakers unable to cope with rate of deaths. So presumably if there are large numbers of UK home deaths they have been buried at home in the garden. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 25, 2020 #764 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, acidhead said: The UK's beloved morning talk show beta male Peirs Morgan has been touting all week that number to double to over 45K due to the yet to be reported household deaths How that man is even on the TV is beyond me. Sums up the British media. In the gutter. The media made no mention of extra deaths when the death toll was rising every single day. The moment the death toll started to fall which it has since the 8th April. The media went in search of extra deaths. And now they have people dying twice. Its remarkable. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted April 25, 2020 #765 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, stevewinn said: How that man is even on the TV is beyond me. Sums up the British media. In the gutter. The media made no mention of extra deaths when the death toll was rising every single day. The moment the death toll started to fall which it has since the 8th April. The media went in search of extra deaths. And now they have people dying twice. Its remarkable. Here's an example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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L.A.T.1961 Posted April 25, 2020 #767 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Eldorado said: I dare say Ashton will give us his personal diary showing what he had planned back in January. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted April 25, 2020 #768 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, L.A.T.1961 said: I dare say Ashton will give us his personal diary showing what he had planned back in January. Exactly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 25, 2020 #769 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Eldorado said: Love reading the comments. Edited April 25, 2020 by stevewinn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted April 25, 2020 #770 Share Posted April 25, 2020 "Coronavirus tests for key workers through the Government’s new booking website have run out in England and Wales for a second day in a row." https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/national/18405454.coronavirus-test-slots-run-second-day-booking-website-reopens/ "Coronavirus tests for key workers run out in minutes after applications reopening" https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-25/applications-reopen-for-key-workers-to-get-coronavirus-tests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 25, 2020 #771 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Eldorado said: "Coronavirus tests for key workers through the Government’s new booking website have run out in England and Wales for a second day in a row." https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/national/18405454.coronavirus-test-slots-run-second-day-booking-website-reopens/ "Coronavirus tests for key workers run out in minutes after applications reopening" https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-25/applications-reopen-for-key-workers-to-get-coronavirus-tests/ Be more in stock tomorrow. Like what happened the day before. X number of tests avaliable daily. Well done the Govt now providing thousands of more tests. Which now include members of key workers families. 5,000 tests every two minutes. No wonder they run out. 18,000 drive thru test appointments made in the first two hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 26, 2020 #772 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Low numbers like we see nearly every weekend delay in reporting. (63 deaths reported actual died today) but Today’s reported figure is 336 deaths in hospitals in England. These deaths are distributed back to the 15th of March. this is 30% less than last weeks reported figure of 482 deaths 19th April and nearly half (49%) the 657 deaths reported two weeks ago on the 12th April. The important point the numbers continue to fall. (below; chart. how the deaths are distributed across the dates) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted April 26, 2020 #773 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) Birmingham's Nightingale hospital 'has no patients' BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-52430855 Edited April 26, 2020 by Eldorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted April 26, 2020 #774 Share Posted April 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Eldorado said: Birmingham's Nightingale hospital 'has no patients' BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-52430855 Good news. A bit of perspective. Also, the number of people in ICU due to covid could all fit in the London Nightingale and still have 1,000 bed capacity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted April 26, 2020 #775 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Eldorado said: Birmingham's Nightingale hospital 'has no patients' BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-52430855 This is great news. My local NHS Trust runs this Nightingale Hospital, although it's not even in Birmingham! It's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Let's hope it stays that way. Edited April 26, 2020 by acute 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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