Coronavirus cases confirmed in the UK

[stevewinn]

17 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

I lived in South Korea working as a US Contractor from 2013 - 2019, we left in December to go back to the States to take care of business. We still maintain a home in both locations, our business was taken care of in late April, so we went back to South Korea. Let me tell you this, it appears that we made the right choice South Korea has had no deaths or new infections since April, except for people trying to enter the country that are already sick and they catch them at the Airport or during the 14 day quarantine. Here the threat level has been completely reduced from 4 highest to 1 lowest, life here is completely back to normal. Business, schools, restaurants, markets and everything else never closed except in areas where infections broke out, this economy is just as strong as ever. The only requirement here at this is time is you are required to wear a mask in public, and that's common sense these.

Thanks and yes we are safe, I hope you and your family are also safe and in good health.

Peace

chances are you wouldn't get the virus if you'd remained in the states. and as for life continuing as normal. in time, and when many papers are written about this covid virus we'll find we should have just carried on as normal. the virus was already circulating in France in December everyone tottering about their business for 3 months before lockdown. go into lockdown and people start dying in greater numbers. and now we are told the lockdown is working figures are dropping. but there dropping across the board even when so many variations of lockdown. or no lock down.

have no fear of death, it brings no sorrow.

 

 

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

13 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

I've seen mentioned Vitamin D, and lack of in ethnic groups. As they are not truly adapted to living this far North. it would seem evolution turn people white as a result of migrating North, so we could make the hormone known as "Vitamin D", which plays a vital role in keeping us in good health.

what's my bloody type, the best one. the type thats survived cholera, plague and every pandemic to hit Europe in the last thousand years. except for small pox. and based on your post, you could probably add COVID to that list. biology shows we are not all the same. luck of the draw.

 

That's for certain, my heritage is from Northern Europe, I am a first generation American by birth. My father and Mother immigrated to the US in the 1950's, my family came from Northern Germany, the City of Flensburg. My family history is spread out form Norway to Germany.

So I am actually a long way from home, either way I look at it.

Peace

[Grim Reaper 6]

24 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

chances are you wouldn't get the virus if you'd remained in the states. and as for life continuing as normal. in time, and when many papers are written about this covid virus we'll find we should have just carried on as normal. the virus was already circulating in France in December everyone tottering about their business for 3 months before lockdown. go into lockdown and people start dying in greater numbers. and now we are told the lockdown is working figures are dropping. but there dropping across the board even when so many variations of lockdown. or no lock down.

have no fear of death, it brings no sorrow.

 

 

 

Dude, after being a US Soldier for 23 years, and a US Contractor after that it's amazing that I am still alive. I was shot, I have been blown up by an IED, and had friends go down to my right and left. I don't fear death when you have tasted it like I have you know there is nothing to fear, but sometimes I do fear life.

Like I said above the reason we left the US was because our business was concluded.

Peace

Edited May 8, 2020 by Manwon Lender

[stevewinn]

17 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Dude, after being a US Soldier for 23 years, and a US Contractor after that it's amazing that I am still alive. I was shot, I have been blown up by an IED, and had friends go down to my right and left. I don't fear death when you have tasted it like I have you know there is nothing to fear, but sometimes I do fear life.

Like I said above the reason we left the US was because our business was concluded.

Peace

i know who you are, hence the use of the phrase. i thought it wouldn't be lost on you.

[Duke Wellington]

26 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

I've seen mentioned Vitamin D, and lack of in ethnic groups. As they are not truly adapted to living this far North. it would seem evolution turn people white as a result of migrating North, so we could make the hormone known as "Vitamin D", which plays a vital role in keeping us in good health.

what's my bloody type, the best one. the type thats survived cholera, plague and every pandemic to hit Europe in the last thousand years. except for small pox. and based on your post, you could probably add COVID to that list. biology shows we are not all the same. luck of the draw.

I haven't looked into that one myself but have seen articles on Vitamin D in the media saying the same thing.

Do you know that 10% of modern Europeans are immune to HIV? In Scandinavia its significantly higher and in countries around the Mediterranean significantly lower. https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-03/uol-bdw031005.php. We can see that across just Europeans that genetics vary, with Scandinavians having the most incident of the gene CCR5-A32 protecting them.

It is not racist to suggest that the higher death rates in ethnic minorities with Corona Virus might also be down to them having less incident of protecting genes. I personally think globalisation is putting us all at risk as it allows the quick spreading of viruses around the world which is going to expose regional populations to diseases they arent immune too. Today ethnic minorities dying off at higher rates with Corona Virus than Europeans, tomorrow it could be us with whatever else nature is going to throw at us.

If we are to keep globalism then we need a global health policy and food safety polices or its a disaster waiting to happen (again...)

[Duke Wellington]

19 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Dude, after being a US Soldier for 23 years, and a US Contractor after that it's amazing that I am still alive. I was shot, I have been blown up by an IED, and had friends go down to my right and left. I don't fear death when you have tasted it like I have you know there is nothing to fear, but sometimes I do fear life.

Like I said above the reason we left the US was because our business was concluded.

Peace

You speak like someone who has never experienced war.

Its gruesome and horrific.

[Grim Reaper 6]

Just now, Cookie Monster said:

You speak like someone who has never experienced war.

Its gruesome and horrific.

Actually you sound like someone who has never experienced combat, while it is terrible and horrific you can't dwell on that or you will go crazy. The terrible things that have occurred during my service often haunt me, especially when I try to sleep. But, I have learned to deal with it and I certainly don't dwell on, but I do suffer from PTSD, and that is just a fact life, that I can never change.

So monster think and believe you want, it doesn't matter to me.

Peace 

[Duke Wellington]

13 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Actually you sound like someone who has never experienced combat, while it is terrible and horrific you can't dwell on that or you will go crazy. The terrible things that have occurred during my service often haunt me, especially when I try to sleep. But, I have learned to deal with it and I certainly don't dwell on, but I do suffer from PTSD, and that is just a fact life, that I can never change.

So monster think and believe you want, it doesn't matter to me.

Peace 

How can you say you dont fear death while then saying you have PTSD?

PTSD is caused by fear for your life giving you a massive adrenaline surge. Either you arent being honest about the fear, or you haven't experienced people dropping down around you.

The worst one I know of (and I will change their names) is Bob, Dave, Ben and Gary, in an armoured vehicle in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban. Bob is on the turret and takes an RPG round to his face. It doesnt explode (soft tissue didnt detonate it) it just crushed his face in leaving him looking like a smashed crab.

They pull him in and Dave takes over the turret. He gets shot in the chin. After they get away Bob and Dave get airlifted out. Dave`s plastic surgery went well with no one being able to tell he had been shot in the chin afterwards. Bob topped himself.

And the day after they got flown out Ben left his camp and went off AWOL in Afghanistan to get some revenge. When they finally caught up with him he spent 6 months in a padded cell at the looney farm as he had gone gaga.

I dont think Gary was sat through all of that saying I`m not experiencing any fear. I`m pretty sure they all needed clean underwear.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Cookie Monster

[+DieChecker]

1 hour ago, Manwon Lender said:

Here's another fact for you, people with Type A blood are also being effected and dying more readily for the Virus, what's your blood type.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200320/blood-type-may-affect-covid19-risk-study

Peace

Oh dear... I'm an older male with type A+. Might as well just lay down on the highway.  Got three strikes against me.

[+DieChecker]

1 hour ago, Manwon Lender said:

Dude, after being a US Soldier for 23 years, and a US Contractor after that it's amazing that I am still alive. I was shot, I have been blown up by an IED, and had friends go down to my right and left. I don't fear death when you have tasted it like I have you know there is nothing to fear, but sometimes I do fear life.

Like I said above the reason we left the US was because our business was concluded.

Peace

I luckily never had to live fire at anyone during my 4 years in Clinton's Army.

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

How can you say you dont fear death while then saying you have PTSD?

PTSD is caused by fear for your life giving you a massive adrenaline surge. Either you arent being honest about the fear, or you haven't experienced people dropping down around you.

PTSD is Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, it has nothing to do with fear. It's more about being troubled psychologically about events you are unable to control or change. It has nothing to do with fear at all. In my case it's all about reliving events from the past that no matter how hard I try, I can't change. The problem for me is more a factor of regret than anything else.

So you believe whatever you choose too, I don't have anything to prove to you or anyone else. If you haven't experienced PTSD you will never understand how it effects others.

Peace

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I luckily never had to live fire at anyone during my 4 years in Clinton's Army.

What branch were you in? I was in the Army, I joined in 1979 and retired in 2003. Then I continued doing the job I did in the Army as a US Contractor, the only difference was the pay. I still ended up spending most of time in the Middle East, but the pay made up for the location.

Oh and by the way, not having to shoot anyone is a plus in my opinion.

Peace

Edited May 8, 2020 by Manwon Lender

[+DieChecker]

6 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

What branch were you in? I was in the Army, I joined in 1979 and retired in 2003. Then I continued doing the job I did in the Army as a US Contractor, the only difference was the pay. I still ended up spending most of time in the Middle East, but the pay made up for the location.

Peace

I was in the Army from 1993 to '97. Was Combat Engineer in 1st Armored in Germany, and 3rd Infantry in Georgia. Left Germany just as the Division was ramping up to go to Bosnia. I completed the Sappers Course, if you have heard of that.

I would have stayed in, as I liked the lifestyle, but they screwed me over for PLDC, and dragged their feet for 6 months, so I had to reenlist to go. And they also only offered combat arms at reenlist and wouldnt deal. So I left and did college. 

Edited May 8, 2020 by DieChecker

[Grim Reaper 6]

Just now, DieChecker said:

I was in the Army from 1993 to '97. Was Combat Engineer in 1st Armored in Germany, and 3rd Infantry in Georgia. Left Germany just as the Division was ramping up to go to Bosnia. I completed the Sappers Course, if you have heard of that.

Yes I have heard of the Sappers course, I worked with some engineers during my Career I use to love playing with Pop and drops. I have also seen a M58 MICLIC fired, now that's was pretty cool, 1000 one pound blocks of C-4 attached to a cable that's also attached to a Rocket.

Peace

[Grim Reaper 6]

6 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I was in the Army from 1993 to '97. Was Combat Engineer in 1st Armored in Germany, and 3rd Infantry in Georgia. Left Germany just as the Division was ramping up to go to Bosnia. I completed the Sappers Course, if you have heard of that.

I was in a special branch of the US Army Chemical Corp's, my MOS was 54B and I had L3 and L5 identifiers. My last duty assignment was at Ft. Lewis Washington, I was assigned to the I Corps Headquarters, so I was always deploying, I served in Desert Storm and in Somalia in 1993, and then the next operation I was involved in was the invasion of Afghanistan in 2002, I was there for 6 months before I retired. then I started working as a US contractor and served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and then in before I retired in Syria.

Peace

[+DieChecker]

33 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Yes I have heard of the Sappers course, I worked with some engineers during my Career I use to love playing with Pop and drops. I have also seen a M58 MICLIC fired, now that's was pretty cool, 1000 one pound blocks of C-4 attached to a cable that's also attached to a Rocket.

Peace

MICLIC is impressive. I saw it fired a couple times at Fort Irwin, I think it was. The ones we trained with had the rocket. But the line charges were dummy.

[Grim Reaper 6]

13 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

MICLIC is impressive. I saw it fired a couple times at Fort Irwin, I think it was. The ones we trained with had the rocket. But the line charges were dummy.

The one I saw fired was during the ground invasion during Operation Desert Storm, the Engineers were clearing path through a Mine field just outside Basara. 

Peace

Edited May 8, 2020 by Manwon Lender

[stevewinn]

What has happened to RabidMongoose? Has his account been deleted? @rabidmongoose doesn't work. And I can't find his profile?

 

 

 

[Duke Wellington]

47 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

What has happened to RabidMongoose? Has his account been deleted? @rabidmongoose doesn't work. And I can't find his profile?

Its me, I renamed lol

[stevewinn]

Just now, Cookie Monster said:

Its me, I renamed lol

See I missed you. But you where here all along. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

9 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

How can you say you dont fear death while then saying you have PTSD?

PTSD is caused by fear for your life giving you a massive adrenaline surge. Either you arent being honest about the fear, or you haven't experienced people dropping down around you.

The worst one I know of (and I will change their names) is Bob, Dave, Ben and Gary, in an armoured vehicle in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban. Bob is on the turret and takes an RPG round to his face. It doesnt explode (soft tissue didnt detonate it) it just crushed his face in leaving him looking like a smashed crab.

They pull him in and Dave takes over the turret. He gets shot in the chin. After they get away Bob and Dave get airlifted out. Dave`s plastic surgery went well with no one being able to tell he had been shot in the chin afterwards. Bob topped himself.

And the day after they got flown out Ben left his camp and went off AWOL in Afghanistan to get some revenge. When they finally caught up with him he spent 6 months in a padded cell at the looney farm as he had gone gaga.

I dont think Gary was sat through all of that saying I`m not experiencing any fear. I`m pretty sure they all needed clean underwear.

Hey Cookie Monster, I was reviewing the threads I posted in yesterday and noticed that you added to this post that I had already quoted. It really amazing that your friend Bob took an RPG round in the face and survived, he must have a really hard skull, because that rocket should have taken his head off whether it exploded or not, but all I can say is I glad he made it. Your friends are really lucky getting shot in the chin and then your other friend going AWOL in Afghanistan, never heard of that before, I mean where would you even go. But I do understand, needing to change the old underwear, I have had that experience myself. The main reason I am replying is to make it clear, I never said I didn't experience fear, I said that I no longer fear death and maybe that's because I realize now how little control we have concerning it, when it's your time, there is nothing you can do to change it.

Peace 

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Its me, I renamed lol

Now I understand, why you sounded so familiar. lol

Peace

[TigerBright19]

Just watched the PM's speech.  So it appears that restaurants and businesses won't be opening again until July at the earliest.  Is that a fixed timetable or was the PM just giving a rough estimate?

 

 

[poohbear]

35 minutes ago, Aaron2017 said:

Just watched the PM's speech.  So it appears that restaurants and businesses won't be opening again until July at the earliest.  Is that a fixed timetable or was the PM just giving a rough estimate?

 

 

How can any politician or scientist give a fixed timetable...it's impossible.All Boris has said is that if things get better  restrictions will be eased further. It's a guessing game for all of us.

I for one won't be going into any crowded bar,train,or guest house until this plague is over.

Edited May 10, 2020 by poohbear

[RAyMO]

35 minutes ago, Aaron2017 said:

Just watched the PM's speech.  So it appears that restaurants and businesses won't be opening again until July at the earliest.  Is that a fixed timetable or was the PM just giving a rough estimate?

 

 

rough estimate and is applicable, at this stage to England, Only - NI will have its own road map this week. 

some things PM said, re going back to work made more sense than others - construction - yes see the sense in that in the most part, and indeed in manufacturing where the business can socially distance and it still has a market. But I suspect large parts of manufacturing will continue to be mothballed until the 'direct consumer' retailers open up again and stimulate demand. No point in incurring immediate costs simply to stock pile imo.