Coronavirus cases confirmed in the UK

[+DieChecker]

22 hours ago, stevewinn said:

@and thenyou're not safe. Don't listen to this wrong information.

It only incorrect as far as no ones "safe", but having type A supposedly just adds a tiny bit to your chances. I think I read it added like 3 to 5 percent to your risk. And having type O decreases the risk by about the same.

Could just be correlation at this point though.

[stevewinn]

ONS data out for week 18.

• 17,953 Deaths
• 8,012 excess deaths above 5 year average.
• 6,035 covid.
• 1,997 Non-covid.

The number of deaths was around or below the five-year average up to Week 12. The number of deaths increased between Weeks 13 and 16 before decreasing in Weeks 17 and 18.

Be interesting to see if the numbers for week 19 and 20. continue on the downward trend at or below the 5 year average. so far the figure are favourable to the Govt. - but unfavourable when the economic impact is felt and we see that we shut down the economy for excess deaths that are no greater than a bad flu season. obviously they'll point to the fact that action taken stopped more deaths. but their expert will have to explain why he was 450,000 off in his predictions.

 

 

[RoofGardener]

Umm.. I was just made aware of something.... 

COVID deaths in the UK.. about 30,000 as of 12th May. 

Covid deaths in mainland China so far. 4600. 

Huh ? 

[Setton]

30 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. I was just made aware of something.... 

COVID deaths in the UK.. about 30,000 as of 12th May. 

Covid deaths in mainland China so far. 4600. 

Huh ? 

Fiddled statistics, an incredibly strict lockdown or different strains of the virus. Or all of the above.

This is fairly common knowledge.

[stevewinn]

29 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. I was just made aware of something.... 

COVID deaths in the UK.. about 30,000 as of 12th May. 

Covid deaths in mainland China so far. 4600. 

Huh ? 

The Chinese are counting backwards.

 

[spud the mackem]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. I was just made aware of something.... 

COVID deaths in the UK.. about 30,000 as of 12th May. 

Covid deaths in mainland China so far. 4600. 

Huh ? 

You can probably add 2 zero's to the figure of 4600 , then that would make it about right ,460000 as we all know the Chinese tell the truth , which is B.S

[Golden Duck]

1 hour ago, stevewinn said:

ONS data out for week 18.

• 17,953 Deaths
• 8,012 excess deaths above 5 year average.
• 6,035 covid.
• 1,997 Non-covid.

The number of deaths was around or below the five-year average up to Week 12. The number of deaths increased between Weeks 13 and 16 before decreasing in Weeks 17 and 18.

Be interesting to see if the numbers for week 19 and 20. continue on the downward trend at or below the 5 year average. so far the figure are favourable to the Govt. - but unfavourable when the economic impact is felt and we see that we shut down the economy for excess deaths that are no greater than a bad flu season. obviously they'll point to the fact that action taken stopped more deaths. but their expert will have to explain why he was 450,000 off in his predictions.

 

 

Higher than expected compliance from citizens has been the answer throughout most of the world.

[stevewinn]

9 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Higher than expected compliance from citizens has been the answer throughout most of the world.

Yes quite easy. Stay two meters apart, wash hands. Stay at home and the Govt will pay 80% wages. 

[Golden Duck]

Just now, stevewinn said:

Yes quite easy. Stay two meters apart, wash hands. Stay at home and the Govt will pay 80% wages. 

It's not the only parameter.  But, there can be a big difference between 70 and 80 percent compliance.

[L.A.T.1961]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. I was just made aware of something.... 

COVID deaths in the UK.. about 30,000 as of 12th May. 

Covid deaths in mainland China so far. 4600. 

Huh ? 

Some other data shows that the 4600 number might be a bit off. 

 

 

[stevewinn]

@Ozymandias please post update your data set for week 18, and can you add weeks out to 25.

[Eldorado]

 

[hetrodoxly]

5 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. I was just made aware of something.... 

COVID deaths in the UK.. about 30,000 as of 12th May. 

Covid deaths in mainland China so far. 4600. 

Huh ? 

When the dust clears and all the information 'that's available' (we'll never know the correct figures), has been gathered, when it's been worked out how each country gathered their date, the charts as they stand today will be very different.

[Tatetopa]

4 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Some other data shows that the 4600 number might be a bit off. 

So if more Chinese have died than citizens in our country, does that mean we win?

[Ozymandias]

2 hours ago, stevewinn said:

@Ozymandias please post update your data set for week 18, and can you add weeks out to 25.

Although Stevewinn has already posted them up, here, as requested, are the latest Office of National Statistics figures re weekly total deaths in England & Wales. I have inserted this mornings figure for Week 18 (in bold):

                                                                          2020          (2019)       5yr Average

• Week   1 (ending Friday,   3 Jan)    -    12,254        (10,955)        [12,175]
• Week   2 (ending Friday, 10 Jan)    -    14,058        (12,609)        [13,822]
• Week   3 (ending Friday, 17 Jan)    -    12,990        (11,860)        [13,216]
• Week   5 (ending Friday, 32 Jan)    -    11,612        (11,297)        [12,760]
• Week   6 (ending Friday,   7 Feb)    -    10,986        (11,660)        [11,925]
• Week   7 (ending Friday, 14 Feb)    -    10,944        (11,824)        [11,627]
• Week   8 (ending Friday, 21 Feb)    -    10,841        (11,295)        [11,548]
• Week   9 (ending Friday, 28 Feb)    -    10,816        (11,044)        [11,183]
• Week 10 (ending Friday,   6 Mar)    -    10,895        (10,898)        [11,498]        
• Week 11 (ending Friday, 13 Mar)    -    11,019         (10,567)        [11,205]         9 Covid deaths  (NHS)
• Week 12 (ending Friday, 20 Mar)    -    10,645        (10,402)        [10,573]     166 Covid deaths  (NHS)
• Week 13 (ending Friday, 27 Mar)    -    11,141         ( 9,867)        [10,130]     582 Covid deaths  (NHS) 
• Week 14 (ending Friday,    3 Apr)    -    16,387        (10,126)        [10,305]   2846 Covid deaths  (NHS)
• Week 15 (ending Friday,  10 Apr)    -    18,516        (10,291)        [10,520]   5353 Covid deaths  (NHS)
• Week 16 (ending Friday,  17 Apr)    -    22,351        (  9,025)        [10,497]   5618 Covid deaths  (NHS)
• Week 17 (ending Friday,  24 Apr)    -    21,997        (10.059)        [10,458]   5913 Covid deaths  (NHS)
• Week 18 (ending Friday,   1 May)    -   17,953         (11,207)         [ 9,941]   4711 Covid deaths  (NHS)

The bolded figure of 17,953 deaths is the latest figure for total deaths in Week 18 released by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) this morning. It is 81% higher than the 5Year Average for Week 18 and represents a 60% increase on the same week last year. 

Bear in mind that these are the figures for England & Wales only - they do not include Scotland or Northern Ireland.

Looking at excess deaths in the last seven of these weeks, Week 12 to Week 18 inclusive, the following facts emerge:

Total Excess Deaths (ONS):   118,990 - 73,690  =  45,300

 

[stevewinn]

@Ozymandias can you not add weeks 19 to 25. Aswell. Get a better understand of the general direction. And if you could. As we near week 25 add weeks 26 to 36. 

[Ozymandias]

1 hour ago, stevewinn said:

@Ozymandias can you not add weeks 19 to 25. Aswell. Get a better understand of the general direction. And if you could. As we near week 25 add weeks 26 to 36. 

Are you compos mentis?!! Or maybe even sober?! Your grammar, syntax and meaning are all verging on the nonsensical.

We don't know the ONS figures for Week 19 and this is only Week 20 which we haven't even finished it yet!! How can anyone add Weeks 19 to 25 when the figures are not available?

[stevewinn]

7 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

Are you compos mentis?!! Or maybe even sober?! Your grammar, syntax and meaning are all verging on the nonsensical.

We don't know the ONS figures for Week 19 and this is only Week 20 which we haven't even finished it yet!! How can anyone add Weeks 19 to 25 when the figures are not available?

Last year's and the five year average figures. YOU previously use to include these and then fill in or update this year's column. 

 

[spud the mackem]

I am bothered by the fact that we are easing restrictions in the U.K. because Germany has eased restrictions and the upsurge in cases has tripled according to the BBC , are we easing too soon ,the figures don't seem to be slacking off yet .The Germans are sensible people so how far have they relaxed the lockdown .

[stevewinn]

38 minutes ago, spud the mackem said:

I am bothered by the fact that we are easing restrictions in the U.K. because Germany has eased restrictions and the upsurge in cases has tripled according to the BBC , are we easing too soon ,the figures don't seem to be slacking off yet .The Germans are sensible people so how far have they relaxed the lockdown .

There is no vaccine. 80% of people who get the virus will have NO symptoms. 20% will have mild flu like symptoms, 5% require Hospitalisation. 1% will die.

death rate in the UK. 0.047% of the population.

Its time the reality of the situation won the day. we cannot stay locked away for ever. no coronavirus vaccine as ever been successful (to date) chances are the vaccines being trialled will have the same outcome.

posted on here the other day, a fella with asbestosis, carried oxygen around with him 24/7. got the virus, recovered.

the media have terrified people.

Mission was to save the NHS. sacrifice lives in the process. mission accomplished.

When you think, care home residents were the prime target for covid. yet care homes never succumb to the virus sheltered for months until the NHS decided to empty the wards in anticipation of thousands upon thousands of Covid causalities. so all the elderly patients were sent back to their care homes. clearly many of them infected with the virus, who would then go on to infect their residency. and then bang explosion. half the UK's deaths are now from care homes. so take away half the deaths from the total of the 33.135 deaths. and your left with roughly 16,576 deaths. did the NHS policy add another 16,500 deaths to our total. Its clear looking back capacity in the NHS wasnt reached. so it's not the mass public that's getting the virus, and needed hospitalisation its the elderly patients from care homes. i wonder if the NHS would've kept them in hospital in the first place - instead of kicking them out how many lives would've been saved and what would our total look like.

who'll clap for those sacrificed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 13, 2020 by stevewinn

[Eldorado]

 

[L.A.T.1961]

On 5/12/2020 at 9:11 PM, Tatetopa said:

So if more Chinese have died than citizens in our country, does that mean we win?

Of course nobody wins. 

But if China was to provide convincing evidence to the international community on CV19 it could be used, now and in the future, for analysis. 

China have so far refused to allow the World Health Organisation to join Beijing's investigation into the virus. 

 

 

[Golden Duck]

6 hours ago, stevewinn said:

There is no vaccine. 80% of people who get the virus will have NO symptoms. 20% will have mild flu like symptoms, 5% require Hospitalisation. 1% will die.

death rate in the UK. 0.047% of the population.

Its time the reality of the situation won the day. we cannot stay locked away for ever. no coronavirus vaccine as ever been successful (to date) chances are the vaccines being trialled will have the same outcome.

posted on here the other day, a fella with asbestosis, carried oxygen around with him 24/7. got the virus, recovered.

the media have terrified people.

Mission was to save the NHS. sacrifice lives in the process. mission accomplished.

When you think, care home residents were the prime target for covid. yet care homes never succumb to the virus sheltered for months until the NHS decided to empty the wards in anticipation of thousands upon thousands of Covid causalities. so all the elderly patients were sent back to their care homes. clearly many of them infected with the virus, who would then go on to infect their residency. and then bang explosion. half the UK's deaths are now from care homes. so take away half the deaths from the total of the 33.135 deaths. and your left with roughly 16,576 deaths. did the NHS policy add another 16,500 deaths to our total. Its clear looking back capacity in the NHS wasnt reached. so it's not the mass public that's getting the virus, and needed hospitalisation its the elderly patients from care homes. i wonder if the NHS would've kept them in hospital in the first place - instead of kicking them out how many lives would've been saved and what would our total look like.

who'll clap for those sacrificed.

So it's gotta be just a great, big, fat, anti China campaign.  It's the only plausible reason for beating up the severity of just another cold/flu.

[spartan max2]

6 hours ago, stevewinn said:

posted on here the other day, a fella with asbestosis, carried oxygen around with him 24/7. got the virus, recovered.

The 102 year old in Iceland was pleased to have beat Covid without any complications.

[+Hammerclaw]