itsnotoutthere Posted February 14, 2020 #1 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) A former police officer's allegedly transphobic tweets were lawful, the High Court has ruled. Harry Miller, from Lincolnshire, was contacted by Humberside Police in January last year after a complaint about his tweets. He was told he had not committed a crime, but it would be recorded as a "hate incident". The court found the force's actions were a "disproportionate interference" on his right to freedom of expression. Mr Miller, 54, also launched a wider challenge against the lawfulness of College of Policing guidelines on hate crimes. These define a hate incident as "any non-crime incident which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202 Sanity prevails for once. What p***** me off about all this non-sense is the absolute waste of police time spent on this when we're being told constantly by the msm that real crime is on the increase. When I read stories like this in the news I just think :- I really do wonder sometimes what the police force is actually for? Edited February 14, 2020 by itsnotoutthere 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted February 14, 2020 #2 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I should bl00dy well think so as well, this is the guy who was told by the police they we're 'checking his thinking' there's another case brought against a woman called Posie Parker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted February 14, 2020 #3 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The BBC reported this case on the 10 o'clock news, they must be feeling the pressure, though they did put their own spin on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 15, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, hetrodoxly said: The BBC reported this case on the 10 o'clock news, they must be feeling the pressure, though they did put their own spin on it. The sooner the BBC is a subscription service the better. This will give you some idea of how out of step they are with the people who pay their wages. https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.bbc.co.uk Edited February 15, 2020 by itsnotoutthere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted February 15, 2020 #5 Share Posted February 15, 2020 So then... based on the PERCEPTION... by the victim, OR ANY OTHER PERSON, a policeman - with no judge or jury - can cause a "non crime" incident to be permanently recorded on the accused persons criminal record, which would feature on any Criminal Background Check. This is the sort of thing we would expect from totalitarian police states like North Korea or China. It appears that the "Liberal" left are determined to impose fascism on us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 15, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted February 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: So then... based on the PERCEPTION... by the victim, OR ANY OTHER PERSON, a policeman - with no judge or jury - can cause a "non crime" incident to be permanently recorded on the accused persons criminal record, which would feature on any Criminal Background Check. This is the sort of thing we would expect from totalitarian police states like North Korea or China. It appears that the "Liberal" left are determined to impose fascism on us. Yep, this is what we've become :- And 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted February 15, 2020 #7 Share Posted February 15, 2020 5 hours ago, RoofGardener said: So then... based on the PERCEPTION... by the victim, OR ANY OTHER PERSON, a policeman - with no judge or jury - can cause a "non crime" incident to be permanently recorded on the accused persons criminal record, which would feature on any Criminal Background Check. This is the sort of thing we would expect from totalitarian police states like North Korea or China. It appears that the "Liberal" left are determined to impose fascism on us. This has been the case for years. If it's down to 'the Liberal left' what hasn't the Conservative government done anything about it in the past 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 15, 2020 Author #8 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) This :- https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/14/we-need-more-harry-millers/ "Today is a good day for free speech in Britain. The High Court has ruled that it is unlawful for police officers to harass members of the public for expressing views on the internet that some people find offensive, but are otherwise entirely legal to express. That this even had to be clarified tells us something about how far we’ve fallen, and how sorely this ruling was needed. An officer, speaking with Miller over the phone, told him he had committed no crime, but that he nevertheless needed to ‘check’ Miller’s ‘thinking’. In an absurd exchange that followed, the officer, who had apparently been on some transphobia-awareness course, singled out a limerick that Miller had retweeted as particularly hateful. Miller says he argued with the officer, telling him Nineteen Eighty-Four was supposed to be a dystopian novel, not a policing manual. The reference went over his head." As it turned out, Miller’s tweets constituted a ‘non-crime hate incident’, which is as chilling a concept as it sounds. These are instances, logged by the police, that a self-described victim, or any other person, considers to be motivated by hostility or prejudice but are not actually unlawful. No evidence has to be provided for one to be recorded, and the police are explicitly told, by the College of Policing’s Hate Crime Operational Guidance, not to challenge any claims made. Edited February 15, 2020 by itsnotoutthere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted February 15, 2020 #9 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Setton said: This has been the case for years. If it's down to 'the Liberal left' what hasn't the Conservative government done anything about it in the past 10 years? Under Cameron and May, perhaps. I hope that Boris has the courage to reject the Progressive voices, and to abolish this fascistic practice. Edited February 15, 2020 by RoofGardener 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 15, 2020 Author #10 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said: Under Cameron and May, perhaps. I hope that Boris has the courage to reject the Progressive voices, and to abolish this fascistic practice. too much irony. Edited February 15, 2020 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted February 15, 2020 #11 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, RoofGardener said: Under Cameron and May, perhaps. I hope that Boris has the courage to reject the Progressive voices, and to abolish this fascistic practice. Yeah, May was always so liberal and left wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted February 16, 2020 #12 Share Posted February 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Setton said: Yeah, May was always so liberal and left wing... Precisely ! She didn't invade any countries as PM and - as home secretary - hardly executed ANYBODY. Wishy Washy ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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