Habitat Posted February 18, 2020 #26 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Damien99 said: All the articles about vacuum decay and how it can happen at any time started again in 2018, I posted papers in my other post that something is up It could kick in at any time, this is why you shouldn't pay the electricity bill till the very last moment before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 18, 2020 #27 Share Posted February 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, Damien99 said: All the articles about vacuum decay and how it can happen at any time started again in 2018, I posted papers in my other post that something is up So you are still claiming that you are backed by something but don't know what it is. You still don't grasp how dumb that sounds. Well I've been doing a bit of research (you should try it some time, it greatly reduces the amount of dumb statements that you make). In 2018 an article was published in a theoretical physics journal that favoured a metastable universe over a stable one. It predicted that the universe would exist for a finite amount of time. The popular press jumped all over it and spouted the kind of doomsday drivel you are spouting. Here is the really, REALLY important part of that article: Quote With these problems solved, we produce the first complete calculation of the lifetime of our Universe: 10139 years. With 95% confidence, we expect our Universe to last more than 1058 years. Source: https://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.97.056006 Even taking the lower number, 1058 years, that is more than 720,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times longer than the universe has existed. It's trillions and trillions of years after the last sun like star will have died. The universe will be cold and unable to support life. All that will be left will be black holes and dying embers from the last stars. There will be no living thing left to worry about instability in the Higgs field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien99 Posted February 18, 2020 Author #28 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Waspie_Dwarf said: So you are still claiming that you are backed by something but don't know what it is. You still don't grasp how dumb that sounds. Well I've been doing a bit of research (you should try it some time, it greatly reduces the amount of dumb statements that you make). In 2018 an article was published in a theoretical physics journal that favoured a metastable universe over a stable one. It predicted that the universe would exist for a finite amount of time. The popular press jumped all over it and spouted the kind of doomsday drivel you are spouting. Here is the really, REALLY important part of that article: Source: https://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.97.056006 Even taking the lower number, 1058 years, that is more than 720,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times longer than the universe has existed. It's trillions and trillions of years after the last sun like star will have died. The universe will be cold and unable to support life. All that will be left will be black holes and dying embers from the last stars. There will be no living thing left to worry about instability in the Higgs field. Thank you I will read that now, do you remember which page your comment was Edited February 18, 2020 by Damien99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien99 Posted February 18, 2020 Author #29 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) I read most of the article and it did not see it have anything to do with vacuum decay? It spoke about tunneling Have you see this one Edited February 18, 2020 by Damien99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 18, 2020 #30 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Damien99 said: I read most of the article and it did not see it have anything to do with vacuum decay? It spoke about tunneling Which only highlights the fact that you don't actually understand what vacuum decay is. You latch on to key words with no comprehension of what they mean, Because you are totally clueless about the subject you invent your own meanings and definitions. You then leap to laughably incorrect conclusions based on your own inventions. The entire article is about the potential instability of the Higgs field, which is what, potential would lead to vacuum decay... if you knew what you were talking about you would know that. 3 hours ago, Damien99 said: Have you see this one I have now. I'll be honest I don't understand large parts of it, but I'm guessing that I understood considerably more of it than you did. I understand enough to know that it is about small scale experiment on bubbles. I understand enough to know that nowhere does it provide any evidence that this is the fate of the universe. In other words I understand enough of it to know that it, in no way, supports your conclusions. The article I provided gave a time frame for when the universe might end if it collapsed as a result of false vacuum. That figure totally undermines your conclusions. I notice that you have ignored it. All the evidence provided shows you are wrong. You are basing your entire argument on your own ignorance of the subject. You ask questions, but ignore the answers. You ask opinions but ignore them because you believe you already know the answers. You are totally unable to answer the, perfectly reasonable, questions others ask you, or to provide a single piece of evidence to back you up, Given this a reasonable person would admit that they have more to learn and that their conclusions are probably in error. I'm guessing that you won't be doing that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien99 Posted February 18, 2020 Author #31 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said: Which only highlights the fact that you don't actually understand what vacuum decay is. You latch on to key words with no comprehension of what they mean, Because you are totally clueless about the subject you invent your own meanings and definitions. You then leap to laughably incorrect conclusions based on your own inventions. The entire article is about the potential instability of the Higgs field, which is what, potential would lead to vacuum decay... if you knew what you were talking about you would know that. I have now. I'll be honest I don't understand large parts of it, but I'm guessing that I understood considerably more of it than you did. I understand enough to know that it is about small scale experiment on bubbles. I understand enough to know that nowhere does it provide any evidence that this is the fate of the universe. In other words I understand enough of it to know that it, in no way, supports your conclusions. The article I provided gave a time frame for when the universe might end if it collapsed as a result of false vacuum. That figure totally undermines your conclusions. I notice that you have ignored it. All the evidence provided shows you are wrong. You are basing your entire argument on your own ignorance of the subject. You ask questions, but ignore the answers. You ask opinions but ignore them because you believe you already know the answers. You are totally unable to answer the, perfectly reasonable, questions others ask you, or to provide a single piece of evidence to back you up, Given this a reasonable person would admit that they have more to learn and that their conclusions are probably in error. I'm guessing that you won't be doing that. But the paper does specify it can happen anytime now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 18, 2020 #32 Share Posted February 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, Damien99 said: But the paper does specify it can happen anytime now Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted February 18, 2020 #33 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Do you actually know what metastable means? You seem to be confusing it with unstable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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