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Flat-Earther killed in homemade rocket crash

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Eldorado

"A US daredevil pilot has been killed during an attempted launch of a homemade rocket in the Californian desert.

""Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.

"A video on social media shows a rocket being fired into the sky before plummeting to the ground nearby."

At the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51602655

And at Space dot com: https://www.space.com/daredevil-mad-mike-hughes-dies-in-homemade-rocket-launch.html

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Orphalesion

At least he didn't hurt anybody else.

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Waspie_Dwarf

A warning here.

A man has died. Whatever your feelings on flatearthers be kind or be quiet.

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Saturday's launch was reportedly filmed as part of Homemade Astronauts, a new TV series about amateur rocket makers to be aired on the US Science Channel. The project had to be carried out on a tight budget.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51602655

It is worrying to think people are making homemade rockets, are they all getting the permission needed to send them up into our skies? 

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He claimed in November 2017 that the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) had given him verbal permission more than a year ago to launch his rocket, pending approval from the Federal Aviation Administration. However, a BLM spokesman said its local field office had no record of speaking to Hughes at the time. According to the BLM, after seeing some news articles about the planned launch, a BLM representative reached out to Hughes with concerns. The rocket launch was originally scheduled for the weekend of November 25, 2017; Hughes then rescheduled for December 2, 2017, blaming ongoing difficulties in obtaining permissions.[9]Hughes moved his launch pad 4 miles (6.4 km) so that he could take off and land on private property; however, the BLM maintained he still needed to fill out permits. Hughes defiantly stated the dispute would not stop him flying: "I'm a daredevil. I'm not much for authority or rules."[12]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hughes_(daredevil)

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He set a Guinness World Record in 2002 for the longest limousine jump - over 31 metres (103 ft) in a Lincoln Town Car stretched limo.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51602655

He was certainly a daredevil. Unfortunately things can go fatally wrong, even professionals die during extreme and dangerous sports.

 

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In 2016 Hughes launched a failed fundraising attempt for a rocket that earned $310.[3][9]After professing his belief in a flat Earth later that year, Hughes gained support within the flat-Earth community. His post-flat-Earth fundraising campaign made its $7,875 goal. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hughes_(daredevil)

Wow. So was he actually a flat Earth believer?  sure did help to say he was.

Yes it is sad, but I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Swaying more on the side that people should not be allowed to disregard the aviation laws.

He died doing what he loved best and I have no doubt he knew the risks.  

 

 

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Gromdor

I gotta say that rockets and the Flat Earther idealism is a dangerous mix.  Figuring trajectories and the curvature of the Earth immediately pop into mind.

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Jon the frog

His rocket was cool but without any backup system it seems.

Well sorry for the family but it's probably 2020 Darwin award ...

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Piney
33 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

I gotta say that rockets and the Flat Earther idealism is a dangerous mix.  Figuring trajectories and the curvature of the Earth immediately pop into mind.

All he had to do was get a pilots license and fly from the coast to a island, watching it slowly rise up on the horizon........Or he could of tried a stunt like the fellow who flew his balloon into the edge of space. Then the curvature really shows. 

 

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freetoroam
44 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

I gotta say that rockets and the Flat Earther idealism is a dangerous mix.  

I have my doubts if he was a flat Earther, he was certainly a daredevil in need of funds and he came up with a pretty good idea to raise those funds, from my earlier post:

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In 2016 Hughes launched a failed fundraising attempt for a rocket that earned $310.[2][9]After professing his belief in a flat Earth later that year, Hughes gained support within the flat-Earth community. His post-flat-Earth fundraising campaign made its $7,875 goal. 

 

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Eldorado

There's a documentary film about him.

"Rocketman: Mad Mike's Mission to Prove the Flat-Earth"

"A crew of dreamers work through trials and tribulations attempting to launch Michael 'Mad Mike' Hughes in a homemade rocket on a mission to prove that the Earth is flat".

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8372368/

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Manwon Lender
7 hours ago, Eldorado said:

"A US daredevil pilot has been killed during an attempted launch of a homemade rocket in the Californian desert.

""Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.

"A video on social media shows a rocket being fired into the sky before plummeting to the ground nearby."

At the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51602655

And at Space dot com: https://www.space.com/daredevil-mad-mike-hughes-dies-in-homemade-rocket-launch.html

Rest In Peace Mike Hugh's.

This is really a tradgic situation, whether he truly believed the Earth was flat or not doesn't matter. My heart gos out to his family and the friends he left behind. No matter what people think of his ideas he had the intestinal fortitude and bravery to try and prove what he thought was the truth. Not many of us have what it takes to do the same.

Peace

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saywhat

I don't understand. If his goal was to reach 5000 feet to see the curvature of the earth, why not just book a flight anywhere? Passenger planes fly much higher. A sad loss none the less. RIP.

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Seti42

At least he went out with a bang doing what he loved. And as someone else pointed out, it's good he didn't take anyone else with him.

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WanderingFool0

I will probably get slagged for my opinion, as being callous, but I don't know if I really see this as much of a tragedy as others.

Though, I do feel sorry for his families pain and suffering, I don't think they would feel any more or any less pain and suffering then if he died in a car wreck, heart attack, climbing a mountain etc, because death and the feeling of loss, causes pain and suffering for those who loved the individual regardless of how the death occurs.

Personally, it doesn't seem to me like he was a flat earther, he just used that to get people to fund his project and more than likely, he was just a person who dreamed of going to space and knowing he would never get there due to the government and commercial gatekeepers to space and  he decided to bypass them and do it DIY style.

I would also say it is to bad he didn't get more funding and then, he probably could have created an expert team and  built a better rocket with better safety and backup systems and maybe actually been able to achieve his dream and still live. Also, glad he didn't injure a lot of other people with his rocket. But, I don't know if we have the right to stop people like him for their own saftey, any more than we have a right to stop cliff and mountain climbers, skydivers, etc for their saftey. 

In the end I would say he died doing what he loved and believed in, so bless him and his family.

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Tuco's Gas

The irony of a flat-earther dying in a rocket crash is that, if he had indeed built a craft powerful enough to put him in Earth orbit, the very fact he WAS in orbit and didn't just achieve apogee and come back down would have maybe saved him while disproving his flat earth nonsense.

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RabidMongoose

Its only February 2020 yet I think we have already found a finalist for this years Darwin Award.

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acidhead

It's possible the round-earthers snuffed him out before he exposed their lies!!

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Obviousman

Is there any detail on the the actual vehicle construction? I'd like to see how practical - or not - the vehicle actually was.

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freetoroam
18 minutes ago, Obviousman said:

Is there any detail on the the actual vehicle construction? I'd like to see how practical - or not - the vehicle actually was.

I am no expert, but I do not believe it was practical at all, considering the outcome. 

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STAR LORD
12 hours ago, freetoroam said:

I have my doubts if he was a flat Earther, he was certainly a daredevil in need of funds and he came up with a pretty good idea to raise those funds, from my earlier post:

 

 Well he's flat earth now ;)

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RabidMongoose
12 hours ago, Obviousman said:

Is there any detail on the the actual vehicle construction? I'd like to see how practical - or not - the vehicle actually was.

Dont do it!

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moonman

And he couldn't just send a camera up....why exactly? You know, like middle schoolers do with digital cameras and balloons.

I guess if you're a flat earther you aren't really thinking logically in the first place.

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Myles
38 minutes ago, moonman said:

And he couldn't just send a camera up....why exactly? You know, like middle schoolers do with digital cameras and balloons.

I guess if you're a flat earther you aren't really thinking logically in the first place.

Very true.  

I still don't believe there are any flat Earth believers.  I think they proclaim it for various reasons.   

Money 

Boredom

Mostly I think they like to debate (argue) and the thought of the Earth being flat is the toughest subject to win so it makes it more fun for them.  

 

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aztek

yep it does sound fishy, if all he needed is 5k feet, a plane would do, even small cessna, or a piper can fly that high.  doesn't look like it really was about FE, more like he just wanted to take a flight in his own rocket,  interestingly enough. the property where he took off\crashed is owned by either discovery or science channel.  

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Kismit

There is a documentary about this chap, it’s called Rocketman. I suspect that they were filming part two when the accident happened.

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