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9/10 people are biased against women

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Eldorado

"Almost 90% of people are biased against women, according to a new index that highlights the “shocking” extent of the global backlash towards gender equality.

"Despite progress in closing the equality gap, 91% of men and 86% of women hold at least one bias against women in relation to politics, economics, education, violence or reproductive rights."

Full article at UK Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/mar/05/nine-out-of-10-people-found-to-be-biased-against-women

And UK Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/gender-bias-study-un-development-programme-a9376921.html

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freetoroam
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86% of women hold at least one bias against women

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Almost a third of men and women think it’s acceptable for a man to beat his wife.

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The first gender social norm indexanalysed data from 75 countries

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/mar/05/nine-out-of-10-people-found-to-be-biased-against-women

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A list of  who they are asking, like their culture and religious beliefs and how backwards some of these people are would be helpful.

I would like to know how many people in England who have been brought up in the western culture think it is acceptable for a man to beat his wife and are open to admit it.

 

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third_eye

Johnny Depp is in the deep end on this one... 

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Cookie Monster
28 minutes ago, freetoroam said:

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A list of  who they are asking, like their culture and religious beliefs and how backwards some of these people are would be helpful.

I would like to know how many people in England who have been brought up in the western culture think it is acceptable for a man to beat his wife and are open to admit it.

 

For me, I fully realise that just as many woman as men are disasters.

You know the type, bought up in an abusive household where they weren't socialised properly. Poor interpersonal and social skills. Angry at the world and use that anger to justify behaving however the hell they want and poor conduct.

I would never beat a wife because I would never make the mistake of marrying a woman that was a disaster. Likewise I`m not a disaster myself so dont get the urge to be violent to my partner for whatever reasons some men do it.

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freetoroam
7 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

For me, I fully realise that just as many woman as men are disasters.

You know the type, bought up in an abusive household where they weren't socialised properly. Poor interpersonal and social skills. Angry at the world and use that anger to justify behaving however the hell they want and poor conduct.

I would never beat a wife because I would never make the mistake of marrying a woman that was a disaster. Likewise I`m not a disaster myself so dont get the urge to be violent to my partner for whatever reasons some men do it.

I agree. There are also women who beat up their husbands.

These polls are misleading and are not a true reflection on how things are as they are clumping the survey's together and making it look as if the whole world are the same. 

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27 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

 

I would never beat a wife because I would never make the mistake of marrying a woman that was a disaster. Likewise I`m not a disaster myself so dont get the urge to be violent to my partner for whatever reasons some men do it.

Mirrors my thoughts exactly:tu:

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19_Kilo

What a useless article. Replete with clickbait headline.

"The first gender social norm index analysed data from 75 countries that, collectively, are home to more than 80% of the global population. It found that almost half of people feel men are superior political leaders and more than 40% believe men make better business executives. Almost a third of men and women think it’s acceptable for a man to beat his wife.

Almost half of people feel men are superior leaders?

Uh..my college statistics class was over 20 years ago, but last I checked that means that it's equally accurate to say "The majority of people surveyed did not think men were superior leaders."

And "more than 40% believe men make better executives" can be translated into "well over half of respondents felt that men weren't necessarily better executives."

As far as the one-third feeling it's cool to beat your wife: "The vast majority of those polled felt it was wrong to engage in domestic violence."

And I'm betting that 90% of those respondents who did condone wife beating were not from developed Western countries. 

On the first day of that college Statistics class I recall my professor saying "You can make statistics do anything you want them too. He'll, you can make them stand up and dance!"

This article is a splendid example of that maxim.

Cheers.

 
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quiXilver

I'm with Tuco's Gas on this one.

My foray into advanced statistics taught me one thing above all.  That one can make statistics show anything one desires, through control of sample size and the 'randomizing' (or not) of said sample.

 

Always remember... 

The menu is not the meal.  You can read the word steak, but it won't fill you up. 

The map is never the territory, but a rough aproximation. 

The model in your mind is never the reality.  It's your interpretation of it.

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Sheltie

"Back in the day I was always warning against generalisation, it is tantamount to bigotry. 
when we pigeon hole people, or classify “type”. All such and such are..... we do ourselves and others a cheap disservice."

Seems to me a strong case could be made that this thread is making extremely general comments about men and women. 

I'd be pretty surprised if any moderators decided to lock this thread in less than 24 hrs, however. 

"Nothing productive is going to come out of this thread."

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1 hour ago, Sheltie said:

"Back in the day I was always warning against generalisation, it is tantamount to bigotry. 
when we pigeon hole people, or classify “type”. All such and such are..... we do ourselves and others a cheap disservice."

Seems to me a strong case could be made that this thread is making extremely general comments about men and women. 

I'd be pretty surprised if any moderators decided to lock this thread in less than 24 hrs, however. 

"Nothing productive is going to come out of this thread."

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Generalization is the name of the game now. Just like saying "Every white person is racist" which in itself is a racist remark. 

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HandsomeGorilla

I don't know about 90%, but it really surprises me how many men actually do hold women in lower regard, especially if she's their superior. People's insecurities would make me laugh if they weren't so sad. It honestly never occurred to me to think differently of anyone based on their appearance or gender. I just wasn't raised like that. What a novel concept, eh?

My former boss was a lesbian woman, probably one of the best superiors I've ever had and we remain friends, but I had numerous coworkers make derogatory, sexist comments about her or about her orientation. 

Things can go both ways, still, though. I'm a guy and still have a hard time resisting a pretty face. Good chance I'll go out of my way to do something for an attractive woman (she was a very pretty lady) whereas I may not be so willing to jump in if it were just some dude. 

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Scholar4Truth

Have they ever done a study on the biases against men? I can show you some rather radical feminists who hold that view. 

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papageorge1

I believe there are real differences in general between the genders. I call that the result of my correct observation and processing of human behavior. 

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19_Kilo
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On 3/5/2020 at 3:27 PM, XenoFish said:

Generalization is the name of the game now. Just like saying "Every white person is racist" which in itself is a racist remark. 

I'd call a comment like that "hyperbole." I see a ton if it on this other forum I frequent called Quora.

The post author will usually take a personal, isolated incident or two and then come to the site and try to disguise his rant as a question, while making laughably sweeping generalizations...

"Why do all women just want guys with a lot of money?"

"Why do men never call back after a first date?"

"Why are all Republicans gun nuts who think we all should have assault rifles?"

Annoys the hell outta me. It's hands down the worst aspect of an otherwise great forum. I'm thinking most of the hyperbolic posters are kids. And, thankfully, usually not regulars.

Cheers.

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Piney
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10 hours ago, Tuco's Gas said:

 this other forum I frequent called Quora.

I stopped answering peoples' archaeology questions there. Too many fringies jump in with their crackpot crap and there are way too many stupid questions. 

Edited by Piney
Where's the red paint?
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and then
On 3/5/2020 at 7:01 AM, third_eye said:

Johnny Depp is in the deep end on this one... 

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It was the move to France that did for him.  Poor guy...

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On 3/5/2020 at 7:20 AM, freetoroam said:

I agree. There are also women who beat up their husbands.

Too right.  I have a first-cousin who was stabbed by his wife in a fit of her anger.  She was from Louisiana and had a bit of a problem with impulse control.  My cousin was strong and had walked away after a few fights with men who themselves weren't ABLE TO.  To give an idea of how men were raised in our family, he drove himself to the ER, never explained how it happened and forgave her for her craziness.  He definitely isn't a personality type that would just accept such treatment.  He just couldn't believe she could remain as out of control as that for any extended time.  Turns out, he had to admit he was wrong and move on a few years later.

 

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LightAngel
On 3/5/2020 at 1:10 PM, Eldorado said:

"Almost 90% of people are biased against women

 

Let be honest here. 

Almost 90% of people are biased against anything that is different than them!

Sad but true. 

 

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Aaron2017

From my own experience the male school teachers I had would mark my homework correctly, but the female teachers would make mistakes and downgrade my work, and I had to repeatedly get them to read my answers again and they would mark them up properly.  This would overtime cause bias against women through no fault of my own.  Fast forward a few years to college.  All of the guys dropped out of class except me.  Spending each day in a room filled with girls who never spoke to me because I was a boy ended up causing me to have negative opinions of girls through no fault of my own.  Fast forward a few more years and every job application that proved successful was due to the fact that the people interviewing me were all men, but each time I was interviewed by women I never got the job.  This would over time cause even more resentment against women in my subconscious through no fault of my own.  Even nowadays at work the women do not socialize or acknowledge me when I saw hello or good morning.

If there is bias between the genders I would say it is largely due to the fact that women are prejudiced against men which in turn causes men to become biased against women.

 

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qunaquna
On 3/5/2020 at 1:10 PM, Eldorado said:

"Almost 90% of people are biased against women, according to a new index that highlights the “shocking” extent of the global backlash towards gender equality.

"Despite progress in closing the equality gap, 91% of men and 86% of women hold at least one bias against women in relation to politics, economics, education, violence or reproductive rights."

Full article at UK Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/mar/05/nine-out-of-10-people-found-to-be-biased-against-women

And UK Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/gender-bias-study-un-development-programme-a9376921.html

There is difference between being biased against women and being biased against feminism injections.

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jbondo

More nonsense polls. I don't trust any poll, whether it favors my opinion or not.

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Festina
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It’s no wonder as the world is under the control of a Patriarchy — the Abrahamic, Hindu religion and the Chinese all regard women as of lesser value than men.

The irony is that men are considered ‘disposable’ in war as the Abrahamic God Yahweh/Jehovah, The LORD  is a chthonic War  god..  I wonder how many people know this? 

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Yahweh[Notes 1] was the national god of the kingdoms of Israel (Samaria) and Judah.[3] His origins reach at least to the early Iron Age and apparently to the Late Bronze,[4] and in the oldest biblical literature he is a storm-and-warrior deity[5] who leads the heavenly armyagainst Israel's enemies.[6] At that time the Israelites worshipped Yahweh alongside a variety of Canaanite gods and goddesses, including El, Asherah and Baal,[7] but in time El and Yahweh became conflated,[8] El-linked epithets such as El Shaddai came to be applied to Yahweh alone,[9] and other gods and goddesses such as Baal and Asherah were absorbed into the Yahwistic religion.[10]

From the 9th into the 6th centuries BCE the Yahwistic religion separated itself from its Canaanite heritage as Yahweh became the main god of the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) and of Judah,[11] and over time the royal court and Temple in Jerusalem promoted Yahweh as the god of the entire cosmos, possessing all the positive qualities previously attributed to the other gods and goddesses.[12][13] By the end of the Babylonian captivity (6th century BCE), the very existence of foreign gods was denied, and Yahweh was proclaimed as the creator of the cosmos and the one true God of all the world.[13]

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

THERE  CAN BE NO SON, DAUGHTER OR FATHER WITHOUT A MOTHER.   

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Essan
On 3/5/2020 at 12:10 PM, Eldorado said:

"Almost 90% of people are biased against women, according to a new index that highlights the “shocking” extent of the global backlash towards gender equality.

"Despite progress in closing the equality gap, 91% of men and 86% of women hold at least one bias against women in relation to politics, economics, education, violence or reproductive rights."

Full article at UK Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/mar/05/nine-out-of-10-people-found-to-be-biased-against-women

And UK Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/gender-bias-study-un-development-programme-a9376921.html

That means most women are biased against themselves :rolleyes:

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Festina
4 minutes ago, Essan said:

That means most women are biased against themselves :rolleyes:

Well, what did you expect? They have been led to ‘believe’  that they are ‘Eve’ and responsible for all the ‘woes’ of humanity.  

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Essan
1 minute ago, Festina said:

Well, what did you expect? They have been led to ‘believe’  that they are ‘Eve’ and responsible for all the ‘woes’ of humanity.  

Really? None of the women I have ever know think that ;)     

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