Rolci Posted March 22, 2020 #1 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Fact: Wim Hof was the first person in human history known to have an immune system that was able to resist Escherichia coli endotoxin without getting sick. The next known cases were the 12 volunteers that he trained. Think about it. Before him no human, ever, no matter how strong immune system they had, whether they had a healthy diet, trained, exercised, meditated, took vitamins, NO ONE, EVER beat E-coli before him. You don't have to be a genius to understand what that means. Are you beginning to understand who are going to be the survivors on this planet a year from now? The ones that have CONSCIOUS CONTROL over their immune systems. How? It is simpler than washing your hands with sanitizer. All you need is: FULLY IN, LET GOOOOOOO! Just so you know, according to the World Health Organisation, it is estimated that up to 10% of patients with STEC (Shiga toxin-producing E. coli) infection may develop HUS, with a case-fatality rate ranging from 3 to 5%. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/e-coli (Of course they used dead bacteria in the test so death was not a possibility but the symptomes in the control group would be just as pronunced.) Sources of the Wim Hof study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/ https://www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7379 https://www.nature.com/news/behavioural-training-reduces-inflammation-1.15156 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140505155210.htm In video format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6jqaALpEFM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YficBlvPwWQ Finally, the technique only takes 10 minutes a day to practise, and Wim shares the technique with the whole world FOR FREE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybOi4hjZFQ Also he has the free app available for download on his official website: https://www.wimhofmethod.com/wim-hof-method-mobile-app He travels the world teaching people how to never be sick, at no charge. Please consider supporting him. Interviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM6WKeZ43s4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zS94x2nd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxjutWVuj4 The way this is supposed to tie in to Corona is that practising the WHM releases epinephrine, which leads to increased production of Interleukin 10 and other anti-inflammatory agents in the body, while at the same time it dampens the proinflammatory cytokine response. Meaning you don't get sick. Also the accompanying hyperventilation floods the blood with oxygen and also results in a higher number of white blood cells. The white blood cells fight disease and the oxygen ensures faster recovery. The oxygen also creates alkaline environment in the body, which itself kills diseases. So as a net effect, you don't get sick, if you do have some mild symptoms you recover much faster. And more importantly, you do not get inflamed lungs and you don't DIE from pneumonia! Edited March 22, 2020 by Rolci 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted March 22, 2020 #2 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Okay. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted March 22, 2020 #3 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Ok then. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodReality Posted March 22, 2020 #4 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: Okay. 53 minutes ago, toast said: Ok then. What thoughtful input 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 22, 2020 #5 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, GoodReality said: What thoughtful input I think they were being...polite... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted March 22, 2020 #6 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, and then said: I think they were being...polite... Yep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 22, 2020 #7 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 hours ago, GoodReality said: What thoughtful input GIGO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted March 22, 2020 #8 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Wasn't a comment just like this thread deleted? Because of bad health advice or something to that effect. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 22, 2020 #9 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 hours ago, GoodReality said: What thoughtful input And still so much more value than the OP. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 23, 2020 #10 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Rolci said: So as a net effect, you don't get sick, if you do have some mild symptoms you recover much faster. And more importantly, you do not get inflamed lungs and you don't DIE from pneumonia! According to the studies it is only really working during the time the subjects are practising the breathing Quote “None of these people have control over their blood pH or their breathing, except when they’re actually consciously doing this thing. Their heart rates are the same as the other subjects, their pressures are the same,” he says. In other words, the life-altering physiological changes that Hof claims exist could only materialize for the short time during which participants are actively doing the exercises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted March 23, 2020 #11 Share Posted March 23, 2020 That's not how the immune system works. A person immune to everything doesnt exist as the Corona virus is novel. Meaning no ones immune system has seen it before. Beyond that just because we might become immune to this doesnt mean nature the following year doesn't cook up something completely new that is even worse. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted March 23, 2020 #12 Share Posted March 23, 2020 https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Wim_Hof https://www.ecso.org/news/iceman-wim-hofs-cold-trickery/ 11 minutes ago, darkmoonlady said: That's not how the immune system works. A person immune to everything doesnt exist as the Corona virus is novel. Meaning no ones immune system has seen it before. Beyond that just because we might become immune to this doesnt mean nature the following year doesn't cook up something completely new that is even worse. And you can't make your body more alkaline. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted March 23, 2020 #13 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, Tuco's Gas said: Once again you are correct, sir: human blood is barely basic w/ a pH of 7.30 to 7.45. Anything over 7.8 is fatal. Then there's that idiotic Edgar Cayce A.R.E. Alkaline diet that proscribes acidic foods. . That's where I think this whistler got it from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 23, 2020 #14 Share Posted March 23, 2020 cancer cells love acidic environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted March 23, 2020 #15 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Tuco's Gas said: All from a virus that thus far has a fatality rate of about 3%. And has killed less people than die daily in accidents. Yes, more or less the same people that the seasonal flu kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 23, 2020 #16 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Rolci said: Fact: Wim Hof was the first person in human history known to have an immune system that was able to resist Escherichia coli endotoxin without getting sick. The next known cases were the 12 volunteers that he trained. Think about it. Before him no human, ever, no matter how strong immune system they had, whether they had a healthy diet, trained, exercised, meditated, took vitamins, NO ONE, EVER beat E-coli before him. You don't have to be a genius to understand what that means. Are you beginning to understand who are going to be the survivors on this planet a year from now? The ones that have CONSCIOUS CONTROL over their immune systems. How? It is simpler than washing your hands with sanitizer. All you need is: FULLY IN, LET GOOOOOOO! Just so you know, according to the World Health Organisation, it is estimated that up to 10% of patients with STEC (Shiga toxin-producing E. coli) infection may develop HUS, with a case-fatality rate ranging from 3 to 5%. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/e-coli (Of course they used dead bacteria in the test so death was not a possibility but the symptomes in the control group would be just as pronunced.) Sources of the Wim Hof study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/ https://www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7379 https://www.nature.com/news/behavioural-training-reduces-inflammation-1.15156 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140505155210.htm In video format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6jqaALpEFM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YficBlvPwWQ Finally, the technique only takes 10 minutes a day to practise, and Wim shares the technique with the whole world FOR FREE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybOi4hjZFQ Also he has the free app available for download on his official website: https://www.wimhofmethod.com/wim-hof-method-mobile-app He travels the world teaching people how to never be sick, at no charge. Please consider supporting him. Interviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM6WKeZ43s4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zS94x2nd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxjutWVuj4 The way this is supposed to tie in to Corona is that practising the WHM releases epinephrine, which leads to increased production of Interleukin 10 and other anti-inflammatory agents in the body, while at the same time it dampens the proinflammatory cytokine response. Meaning you don't get sick. Also the accompanying hyperventilation floods the blood with oxygen and also results in a higher number of white blood cells. The white blood cells fight disease and the oxygen ensures faster recovery. The oxygen also creates alkaline environment in the body, which itself kills diseases. So as a net effect, you don't get sick, if you do have some mild symptoms you recover much faster. And more importantly, you do not get inflamed lungs and you don't DIE from pneumonia! Ohh **** off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted March 23, 2020 #17 Share Posted March 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Rolci said: Blah blah Have you been practicing your breatharianism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted March 23, 2020 #18 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Tuco's Gas said: You went off the reservation and lost mucho credibility when you said that the only survivors on the planet a year from now will be the ones who practice whm to enhance their immune system into impenetrable status. (Paraphrase.) This implies you believe Covid will kill anyone who doesn't practice an unproven "mind over matter" meditation method. And that in 18 months from now billions will be dead. All from a virus that thus far has a fatality rate of about 3%. And has killed less people than die daily in accidents. Why have no MDs or Virologists or WHO or CDC mentioned who? Your post made me think about Mary Baker Eddy. He's a defender of breatharianism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolci Posted March 26, 2020 Author #19 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) On 3/23/2020 at 5:51 AM, Rlyeh said: Have you been practicing your breatharianism? I have indeed, thank you for asking. Your question has prompted me to share my story with the rest of you, citing all the peer-reviewed sources (like the National Center for Biotechnology Information) that you pseudosceptics love so much: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/335774-the-breatharian-path-the-science-my-journey/ So tell me, Ryleh. When you did finally get your much-wanted link to the Nature article and read the peer-reviewed studies into the Wim Hof Method in these respected science journals, did that prompt you to all of a sudden start practising? Thought not. Then why cry "sources" if the findings of REAL science don't make a difference to you anyway? Edited March 26, 2020 by Rolci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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