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Dreaming of places in 100% detail

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UnoZeroZeroQuattro
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Premise: i am a skeptic, i came across this website as it provided me some sort of similar experiences from other people around the world. So, i want to learn something as well as letting you know my experience. 

 

I am an italian sailor, 34, and from time to time in recent years (2 to 3 times a year) i dream of being in different places i've never seen, let me explain... And excuse my bad english... 

 

- it happens seconds after i begin to sleep, i am still vigil and using my brain like when i am awake 

- i have control of my thoughts and make observations about what's happening, something like thinking "oh it's happening again", "i hope this time doesn't endure just a few seconds" or "it's like watching this from somebody else's eyes" or "she didn't see me" 

- i have control of my eyes and slight movement of my head. 

- as soon as i start moving my body i move backwards and the experience ends 

- i feel extremely calm, every time i don't want it to end

- i feel my weight and my presence in this place, but i don't feel my limbs, something like beeing still or paralyzed

- i move every time just a few centimeters, backwards, i cannot say i'm in control of this movemente, it's weird

- sometimes i see people passing by, doing their things in what i suppose is their house

- everytime it starts by me looking at the corner between two walls, i look around a little bit (i can quantify it as something like 10-15 seconds IRL) and then the backward movement and finish

- everytime is the interior of a perfectly normal house, with furniture and people, and during daylight

 

What's so shocking for me is the amount of detail, it's like 100% reality: shadows, wood grains, tiles on the floor, the flowery sofa, the carpet and each of its fibers, the light in the bathroom, the bedroom with fluffy sheets, the person in the room, her face, the position and color of the soap on the sink, the fact that the bathroom has no windows and the light is on, the paintings on the wall, cheap frame, each brush stroke, the everyday objects on the furniture.. 

 

Nothing of this is aestetically beautyful or appealing, it's just somebody else's ordinary house, sometimes more modern (like ikea) sometimes just cheap. 

 

My analysis: when i think about my ordinary dreams, i see them something like concepts put to some kind of visual rendering, something like imagination, they have no time, daylight and night are simple concepts, lights and shadows are off, people's faces have traits but not details, and usually there's something like a plot occurring, or something is actually happening (giving the illusion of time passing) 

In this phenomenon nothing is happening, people are not aware of me, no plot, no concepts, actual control of thoughts and a single emotion -calmness-, the resolution and detail is absolutely like the reality. It blows my mind. 

If you try, you cannot do this by your own will. Too tiring and difficult for the brain, it's impossible without going through some kind of process of creation of the place, but still, you can only put concepts, you are obligated to process and invent it. 

This is the true difference, i go to sleep, and i'm immediately presented a picture in time of a place that i've never seen nor created. And is impossible i did because i've fell asleep just seconds before (i asked my girlfriend) it's so realistic, the positioning of furniture and object has it's logic, everything is in logical order/disorder, even the crevices and folds of the sheets, the stretching marks on the sofa.. It's unbelievable... 

 

What i ask you:

If anybody experienced something like this, if there's a method to make it last a bit longer. 

Thank you for reading and ask anything you want. 

Luigi

 

 

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eight bits
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Welcome aboard.

I don't know that there is a method to make that specific "half asleep" reverie last longer, but the effect sounds similar to a training regimen of exercises which Tanya Luhrmann (Stanford University, anthorpolgy and psychology) reported in her graduate studies of modern witches in the United Kingdom. Here is her description of it:

http://frequencies.ssrc.org/2011/10/27/magic/

 

 

 

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You'd think by now I'd remember that it's two ens in Luhrmann.
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UnoZeroZeroQuattro
2 hours ago, eight bits said:

Welcome aboard.

I don't know that there is a method to make that specific "half asleep" reverie last longer, but the effect sounds similar to a training regimen of exercises which Tanya Luhrmann (Stanford University, anthorpolgy and psychology) reported in her graduate studies of modern witches in the United Kingdom. Here is her description of it:

http://frequencies.ssrc.org/2011/10/27/magic/

 

 

 

Very specific and interesting point of view, i guess i should try it, i don't have so much to do during quarantine :)

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19_Kilo

You're "lucid dreaming."

Here's more...

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323077

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papageorge1
6 hours ago, UnoZeroZeroQuattro said:

Thank you for reading and ask anything you want. 

Astral Projection is a big subject nowadays in the paranormal/psychic world. Have you heard or studied much about this as it seems like it has some relation to what you are talking about. You can start on the internet. Perhaps your questions would be better understood and answered by people on the internet interested in astral projection.

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UnoZeroZeroQuattro
16 hours ago, Tuco's Gas said:

You're "lucid dreaming."

Here's more...

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323077

I think it's possible, quite frankly i want to stick to this, instead of wandering around exoteric theories, but at least i should try and learn if somebody else is witnessing something similar to my experience. Thank you very much. 

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15 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

Astral Projection is a big subject nowadays in the paranormal/psychic world. Have you heard or studied much about this as it seems like it has some relation to what you are talking about. You can start on the internet. Perhaps your questions would be better understood and answered by people on the internet interested in astral projection.

Thank you for the suggestion, i can't seem to find any article that wraps up what it is with a scientific approach, maybe i'm an idiot but.. Do you have any interesting starting point? Or a link? 

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19_Kilo
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7 hours ago, UnoZeroZeroQuattro said:

Thank you for the suggestion, i can't seem to find any article that wraps up what it is with a scientific approach, maybe i'm an idiot but.. Do you have any interesting starting point? Or a link? 

1004...you'll never find any article anywhere that uses a scientific approach to explain Astral Projection, since it doesn't exist. It's been debunked many many times. This being done by claimed "projecters" being continually unable to replicate their claims in controlled settings. They were never able to tell the experiments  moderators what they had placed at the target location. The alleged APers guesses were cumulatively no better than chance guesses.

Lucid dreaming,  otoh, is simply a learned practice that allows the dreamer some control during their dream sequences. Alas, it too is unprovable,  since nobody can verify your dreams and what you claim you did in them, but at least when LDing you are admitting staying within confines of your own mind, and not claiming you literally projected consciousness and observational powers to remote locations.

No medium exists to allow the latter; not in the known physical world. Thus,  the mechanics of AP would need be supernatural.

We had a rather length thread on remote viewing here just last week, so I won't say more. There are tonnes of articles out there on the topic. The vast majority debunking it, at least the articles from credible sources. (Remote Viewing and AP are virtually the same thing; one does the viewing while projected, LOL)

Remember when you do come across people who claim to have RVd or APd that they will have no proof of verifiable results. Again,  **sigh**anyone can say "I projected to my friend's house and saw them eating dinner"--but proving that is a whole other ballgame.

Thanks for sharing.

https://www.livescience.com/27978-astral-projection.html

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papageorge1
9 hours ago, UnoZeroZeroQuattro said:

Thank you for the suggestion, i can't seem to find any article that wraps up what it is with a scientific approach, maybe i'm an idiot but.. Do you have any interesting starting point? Or a link? 

Astral projection (or astral travel) is a term used in esotericism to describe an intentional out-of-body experience (OBE) that assumes the existence of a soul or consciousness called an "astral body" that is separate from the physical body and capable of travelling outside it throughout the universe.

 

All such 'paranormal things' are controversial. Here is a starter link: What is Astral Projection?

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