Trump vs Biden 2020 general election poll.

[RoofGardener]

Why should the elections be delayed ? 

I go shopping at Liddle's. They have a queue outside, and they only allow a limited number of people into the shop at any instant in time. Everyone is asked to observe a 2m separation, and the checkouts have this marked along the floor. 

What's to stop these precautions being implemented at a polling station ? After all, by its nature, only a limited number of people are allowed inside at any one time, and the 2m rule could easily be observed. If a German supermarket chain can manage it, I'm sure the collected wisdom of the US Federal (and local) governments can manage it ? 

[Tatetopa]

12 hours ago, and then said:

t's actually pretty simple.  Make the low population states powerless to have any real impact on an election and you have effectively silenced them because they'll simply be ignored.  Meanwhile, the urban areas that have a disproportionate dependency class, will always vote for the party that promises more stuff.  

A low population state has 3 electors.  A low population state has 2 Senators and at minimum 1 representative for a total of three.

Seriously now, I am not trying to be a d**k.  Why do 3 electors out of the total  who only appear every 4 years give a state any more power than 2 senators out of 100 and 1 representative out of 435?

It is powerful to vote for a President every 3 years but representatives could trade and cajole and get help for their state on specific issues all the time.

[Jarocal]

4 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

representatives could trade and cajole and get help for their state on specific issues all the time.

They do this, and it is unfortunate because they are more concerned about protecting their states rather than what is better for the nation as a whole. Congress decrees base closures in the military and it leads to cajoling and infighting by each representative to preserve the base in their district at all cost (their re election  depends on it). What would be the most effective and beneficial for the country as whole does not enter their thought process. Congress mandates the closures but provides no clear method (method not just temporary funding) to assist the communities they know will be affected. There are innovative ways the resources of those shuttered bases could be utilized with proper management which would not only lessen the detriment to those communities but offer innovative solutions to enhance America's position in the world economy.

[acidhead]

Biden's presser today.  Watch the sign language lady LOL 

 

[acidhead]

People who actually work are going to decide this election  The rest are too lazy. It's pretty obvious.

[Tatetopa]

9 hours ago, Jarocal said:

They do this, and it is unfortunate because they are more concerned about protecting their states rather than what is better for the nation as a whole

Yes, it seems so to me.  I was uncertain of the comment that Congress people used to represent their states but not any more.  I don't think Mitch McConnell has a special liaison office with DOT to help build roads in Nebraska or Idaho.

[Hankenhunter]

Wow, The Republican's sure know how to sling mud. That's gonna leave a mark.

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Hankenhunter
I'm punctuationally challenged today.

[Setton]

On 6/30/2020 at 9:32 AM, Hankenhunter said:

He's just scared. His world view is changing too fast for him to cope. His default go to is to deny, project, deflect, obfuscate, humiliate, and denigrate anyone who challenges said world view, all without any proof or substantiation on his part. It's very common. 25% of the U.S is afflicted with this disorder. The squeaky wheels, so to speak. It's more or less the same % in Canada.

What I find particularly interesting is that he and the others like him never used to be this way. They've just borrowed it from Trump since the debates started.

I can't decide what's more sad, having no personality of your own or seeing Trump's and deciding it's better than yours...

[+Hammerclaw]

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[RavenHawk]

21 hours ago, Jarocal said:

They do this, and it is unfortunate because they are more concerned about protecting their states rather than what is better for the nation as a whole.

I don’t think we should be closing any more bases, but that is beside the point.  Their concern must be with their constituents.  However, Socialism has broken our system.  Our system is a two-party system where both parties looked out for the best interest of this nation.  The only difference was how was it done?  Socialism is not interested in the nation as a whole, meaning that individual rights are not protected, but only interested in the power of the ruling elite.  So it has turned into looking after the lawmaker’s own interest.  We do need to return back to caring about the country more.  That does not require Fundamental Change.  The voter can help with that by just voting out the incumbent at each election.

 

Congress decrees base closures in the military and it leads to cajoling and infighting by each representative to preserve the base in their district at all cost (their re election  depends on it).

The other culprit is that over the centuries, especially after the Civil War, the feds have taken powers away from the states.  That is unconstitutional.  The country is made up of two entities, the people and the states.  That’s why we have a bi-cameral Congress.  To balance out the interests of the states and of the people.  The House represents the People and the Senate represents the states.  Yes, the Senators also represent the people but as a function of the state at the federal level.  The 17th Amendment is a good example of Socialism at work in our system.  Before 1913, the states (Legislators) determined who their Senators were.  But now, holding a general election for Senator takes a power from the state. That weakens our Constitution.  Now we, in effect have two Houses.  The states are not directly represented.  Where a state representative (Senator) would be more inclined with interests of the state, the Senator now has individuals as constituents.  The mechanism of balance has been removed.

 

How do you get the representatives to consider the best interests of the nation over their constituents (voters and state)?  They actually have to do both, represent their constituents and have the best interests of this nation at heart.  It is a balance, and it is all off balance today.  There are two things that come to mind.  When bills come to the floor, just don’t load bills with pork.  Take care of business of the nation then work on rules of how to deal with pet projects.  The other thing is that we must eradicate Socialism from our system by whatever means necessary.  Socialism is the last bastion of slavery left.  Its epitaph was pinned by Jefferson and as Lincoln so succinctly stated that a house divided against itself cannot stand, half slave and half free.  He goes on to say “I do not expect the Union to be dissolved - I do not expect the house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.”  Can you guess what the Left wants?

[acidhead]

 

[acidhead]

Deaths are down positive cases are up

 

[acidhead]

Liberty for all.

Every single one of you is an individual.

This is the most important freedom of all 

 

[+DieChecker]

On 6/28/2020 at 5:40 PM, Hankenhunter said:

I draw your attention to the comment section. Every single top comment was made by either a Biden voter, or a disgruntled Trump voter. It's the very first time I've seen this. In 2016, this would never happened. 

What is interesting to me is that FOX, regardless of the haters, still allows comments. While CNN and MSNBC, do not. Because they dont want to see dissenting opinions.

[+DieChecker]

On 6/28/2020 at 6:35 PM, Hankenhunter said:

As for Trump winning. Unpossible. To much  damaging info is coming down the pipe now. To many investigations underway.

A  common opinion. Common in 2016 also. We know how that turned out. Huffington Post gave HRC a 98% chance of winning. They thought they knew what would happen, just as you do.

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

What is interesting to me is that FOX, regardless of the haters, still allows comments. While CNN and MSNBC, do not. Because they dont want to see dissenting opinions.

Yep, that is pretty good, necessary but not sufficient to your implied point.  It also may be that  liberal dissenters don't stray into profanity and personal attack as quickly, or threaten death and disfigurement as often as conservative dissenters do.  

[Jarocal]

1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

Yep, that is pretty good, necessary but not sufficient to your implied point.  It also may be that  liberal dissenters don't stray into profanity and personal attack as quickly, or threaten death and disfigurement as often as conservative dissenters do.  

It may also be that while some conservatives communicate online in a less than civil manner at times, they are also less likely to contravene the rule of law by creating a "capital hill autonomous zone" or any one of the number of the occupy movements contemporary to the "Occupy Wall Street" incident. To be sure, there are incidents that have occurred on the part of conservative groups, and I in no way attempt to justify such actions. But it wasn't bible Thumping, gun toting, hillbillies that took over a 6 block area of Seattle recently and impeded the response of emergency services to the community. Not just impede response, but expel civil law enforcement from the area. Judging by the armed checkpoints that were set up one may conclude that these more left leaning individuals are supportive of the 2A when it serves their purpose. I an not disparaging any of them who lawfully open carried a firearm, I firmly support their right to do so regardless of their political leanings. I do not disagree with their right to peacefully protest, even armed, as a group. It is their constitutional right. What is troubling to me is their willingness to place others at risk, by not using the voice they have in the community they live in by exercising their own personal responsibility to elect someone who is willing to make the meaningful policy changes for their community they feel need occur.

A lot of the people who embrace left leaning ideology rail against Reagan's "Trickle down Economics " calling it a failure. Why do they then seek similar practices for other issues and feel that it will work? 

Meaningful change should not be sought at the federal level. Each community should utilize its strengths in order to improve its quality of life. When impediments are exposed on the state and federal level is when those community leaders should be rallying it's citizens to vote for changes to some of those impediments by replacing higher level officials. 

[Golden Duck]

18 hours ago, acidhead said:

 

More on swine fornication 

[acidhead]

God Bless America!

 

[acidhead]

Beautiful event and speech celebrating America! Greatest nation in the history of mankind!

FULL VIDEO

 

Edited July 4, 2020 by acidhead

[Hankenhunter]

10 hours ago, Jarocal said:

It may also be that while some conservatives communicate online in a less than civil manner at times, they are also less likely to contravene the rule of law by creating a "capital hill autonomous zone" or any one of the number of the occupy movements contemporary to the "Occupy Wall Street" incident. To be sure, there are incidents that have occurred on the part of conservative groups, and I in no way attempt to justify such actions. But it wasn't bible Thumping, gun toting, hillbillies that took over a 6 block area of Seattle recently and impeded the response of emergency services to the community. Not just impede response, but expel civil law enforcement from the area. Judging by the armed checkpoints that were set up one may conclude that these more left leaning individuals are supportive of the 2A when it serves their purpose. I an not disparaging any of them who lawfully open carried a firearm, I firmly support their right to do so regardless of their political leanings. I do not disagree with their right to peacefully protest, even armed, as a group. It is their constitutional right. What is troubling to me is their willingness to place others at risk, by not using the voice they have in the community they live in by exercising their own personal responsibility to elect someone who is willing to make the meaningful policy changes for their community they feel need occur.

A lot of the people who embrace left leaning ideology rail against Reagan's "Trickle down Economics " calling it a failure. Why do they then seek similar practices for other issues and feel that it will work? 

Meaningful change should not be sought at the federal level. Each community should utilize its strengths in order to improve its quality of life. When impediments are exposed on the state and federal level is when those community leaders should be rallying it's citizens to vote for changes to some of those impediments by replacing higher level officials. 

"But it wasn't bible Thumping, gun toting, hillbillies that took over a 6 block area of Seattle recently"

The Boogaloo's say hi, and beg to differ.

 

Boogaloo movement

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo_movement&ved=2ahUKEwjh8Mby8rLqAhXDHDQIHRLhDI8QFjACegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2ioqlMdaLm7AVmFCjGdKYG

Edited July 4, 2020 by Hankenhunter

[acidhead]

 

[+DieChecker]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/03/opinion/dukakis-has-some-advice-biden-dont-take-those-polls-seriously/

This was interesting...

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In July 1988, a Newsweek/Gallup poll showed Mike Dukakis leading his presidential opponent, George H.W. Bush, by a 55-38 percent margin nationwide.

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I think Biden now is weaker than Dukakis in 1988. Biden is battling an incumbent president who can wield the levers of power to his own benefit almost any time he wants. And Biden, you can argue, is no Dukakis.

In 1988, Dukakis was near the height of his rhetorical and intellectual powers. He turned 55 just a few days before Election Day. By contrast, Biden is 77 and prone to cringe-worthy gaffes. As a presidential candidate, Dukakis took credit for the erstwhile “Massachusetts Miracle,” a sustained period of economic growth for which he doubtless had some responsibility.

What can Biden take credit for? A serviceable stint as a small-state senator, eight years of unremarkable vice-presidential yeomanry, and — lest we forget — an unblemished losing record in presidential campaigns. Graybeards recall that it was Dukakis campaign aides who shivved Biden in 1988, leaking a video showing that Biden had lifted a campaign speech from a British politician.

Even with Biden’s lead, Dukakis allows that “particularly this year, [polls] should be studied cautiously. Biden can and should win, but being at 50, no matter how weak your opponent is, is no guarantee of success.”

Dukakis should know. He’s been there.

 

[+DieChecker]

12 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Yep, that is pretty good, necessary but not sufficient to your implied point.  It also may be that  liberal dissenters don't stray into profanity and personal attack as quickly, or threaten death and disfigurement as often as conservative dissenters do.  

I'd argue that it's not just Conservatives online that can come forth with profanity and personal attacks. Some of the more liberal people here on UM are clear examples of such.

Regardless. I suspect Fox does Moderate their comments sections, while CNN doesn't even try. They'd rather read about how people think about their stories in people's Twitter posts.