Waspie_Dwarf Posted April 27, 2020 #1 Share Posted April 27, 2020 We Have The First-Ever Credible Evidence of Someone Killed by a Falling Meteorite Quote Researchers have finally found credible records of someone being killed by a falling meteorite. On 22 August 1888, according to multiple documents found in the General Directorate of State Archives of the Presidency of the Republic of Turkey, a falling meteorite hit and killed one man and paralysed another in what is now Sulaymaniyah in Iraq. Read More: ScienceAlert 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 27, 2020 #2 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Some archaeologists have the sneaking suspicion that this event took out a few people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted April 27, 2020 Author #3 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Piney said: Some archaeologists have the sneaking suspicion that this event took out a few people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater Over human history there have probably been multiple meteorite impacts that have lead to deaths, but having a sneaking suspicion and credible evidence are very different things... ask a defence lawyer . 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 27, 2020 #4 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, Waspie_Dwarf said: Over human history there have probably been multiple meteorite impacts that have lead to deaths, but having a sneaking suspicion and credible evidence are very different things... ask a defence lawyer . I did 3 years hard time without credible evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoferox Posted April 28, 2020 #5 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Color me skeptical, but the lack of physical evidence makes me doubtful. A few written accounts from 132 years ago are not convincing enough to declare with confidence that this is the first record. To me it sounds like a lot of other extraordinary claims that were common at the time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted April 28, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Carnoferox said: Color me skeptical, but the lack of physical evidence makes me doubtful. A few written accounts from 132 years ago are not convincing enough to declare with confidence that this is the first record. To me it sounds like a lot of other extraordinary claims that were common at the time. And what physical evidence do you expect from 1888? If you are rejecting written evidence then you are rejecting most of the sum of human knowledge. Turkey, in 1888, was not some little backward state, it was part of the Ottoman Empire. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoferox Posted April 28, 2020 #7 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, Waspie_Dwarf said: And what physical evidence do you expect from 1888? If you are rejecting written evidence then you are rejecting most of the sum of human knowledge. Turkey, in 1888, was not some little backward state, it was part of the Ottoman Empire. Pieces of the meteorite or skeletal remains of the victim would be a start. An extraordinarily unlikely event like this requires extraordinary evidence to confirm. Considering how many fake meteor stories circulated around the US during the late 1800's, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in Turkey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 28, 2020 #8 Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Carnoferox said: Pieces of the meteorite or skeletal remains of the victim would be a start. An extraordinarily unlikely event like this requires extraordinary evidence to confirm. Considering how many fake meteor stories circulated around the US during the late 1800's, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in Turkey. The Ottomans were pretty straightforward compared to the U.S. newspapers of the same time period and it happened in Iraq. I would like to see the actual dated documents though. The Ottomans used a distinct alphabet currently not in use, which very few can read. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoferox Posted April 28, 2020 #9 Share Posted April 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Piney said: The Ottomans were pretty straightforward compared to the U.S. newspapers of the same time period and it happened in Iraq. I would like to see the actual dated documents though. The Ottomans used a distinct alphabet currently not in use, which very few can read. There are photos of the documents in the paper. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/maps.13469 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted April 28, 2020 #10 Share Posted April 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Carnoferox said: There are photos of the documents in the paper. I'm not a member and since prison, no longer have institution access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoferox Posted April 28, 2020 #11 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, Piney said: I'm not a member and since prison, no longer have institution access. I'll PM you a pdf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seti42 Posted April 29, 2020 #12 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 6:56 PM, Carnoferox said: There are photos of the documents in the paper. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/maps.13469 I know this isn't directly related to the topic, but I really hate it when papers are behind a paywall. Entertainment I can understand...But educational materials should be freely available to anyone who wants to read them. This is the kind of thing, like public libraries, governments should just fund with all of our taxes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoferox Posted April 29, 2020 #13 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Seti42 said: I know this isn't directly related to the topic, but I really hate it when papers are behind a paywall. Entertainment I can understand...But educational materials should be freely available to anyone who wants to read them. This is the kind of thing, like public libraries, governments should just fund with all of our taxes. Same here, I'm an advocate for open-access. Sci-hub is a good tool to use to crack the paywalls. https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/maps.13469 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted April 29, 2020 #14 Share Posted April 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Seti42 said: I know this isn't directly related to the topic, but I really hate it when papers are behind a paywall. Entertainment I can understand...But educational materials should be freely available to anyone who wants to read them. This is the kind of thing, like public libraries, governments should just fund with all of our taxes. knowledge is powaaaa !! like money this days.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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