Gromdor Posted May 22, 2020 #51 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, aztek said: and shokin was fired in 2016, per biden's request Yup. So quick rehash. Biden got a corrupt politician fired who wasn't investigating his son. Nothing seems wrong with that. Heck, Trump has fired multiple non-corrupt IGs that were investigating him and his cronies and no one is really batting an eye. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 22, 2020 #52 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) so why this corrupt politician, and not anyone else? they are all corrupt there, actually shokin was not a politician, he was a prosecutor. and no, not quick rehash. your opinion that contradicts facts and simple logic, you sure try hard, lol Edited May 22, 2020 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted May 22, 2020 #53 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, aztek said: so why this corrupt politician, and not anyone else? they are all corrupt there, actually shokin was not a politician, he was a prosecutor Why was Sessions fired or the IGs? But to answer your question: https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html He was fired because he wasn't investigating Burisma and was in fact trying to solicit bribes from them. (among other things) The funny thing is that the timeline doesn't support Biden's bragging about getting him fired either. Like you said Shokin got fired in March 2016 by a vote of parliment. Biden was there in December 2015. Biden was just pulling a Trump and trying to take credit for something he didn't do. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 22, 2020 #54 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jon the frog Posted May 22, 2020 #57 Share Posted May 22, 2020 19 hours ago, Hugh Mungus said: After all the drama about Trumps phone call to the Ukrainian President supposedly using influence to dig up dirt on Biden's son, i am very surprised that the above clip is not well known. Biden admits point blank that he told the Ukrainians that if they don't immediately fire the prosecutor looking into his sons business they wont get a $1 billion dollar loan. A direct quote from the above clip: Now there is a new phone recording released between Biden and Ukrainian president Poroshenko, covered by the daily wire which confirms the deal agreed to between the two countries. Poroshenko thanks Biden for keeping his word that they money would be transferred once the Prosecutor was fired and reiterates the deal made. Can someone please remind me why Trump was hauled through the coals over Ukraine? Withholding money to get favor from another country or putting sanction is a political tool used by every country... don't know why these stories have done so much fuzz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahc Posted May 22, 2020 #58 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Jon the frog said: Withholding money to get favor from another country or putting sanction is a political tool used by every country... don't know why these stories have done so much fuzz... yeah when trump gets caught red handed breaking the law to try and steal an election, his supporters first say never happened, then when exposed, everybody does it. tired of the trump crowd excuse making. Vote Joe and arrest Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted May 22, 2020 #59 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, micahc said: yeah when trump gets caught red handed breaking the law to try and steal an election, his supporters first say never happened, then when exposed, everybody does it. tired of the trump crowd excuse making. Vote Joe and arrest Trump! lol, the biggest problem of Trump in this story, is that was for election purpose...and he tried to cover it. I'm not a Trump supporter, but beside tweeting stupidity and not looking in charge of anything, his administration is doing more ore less what other administrations have done before... messing up the last administration achievement and trying to pave the road to reelection. Well Trump have messed up a lot more ...he is overachieving in this domain ! But Biden ... are they able to put someone else has candidate ? It's an embarrassment that american have to choose between Trump and Biden. Better to vote vermin supreme ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted May 23, 2020 #60 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On the lecherous and nonsensical when speaking scales, they are a dead heat. Maybe we will have to decide by issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeOaf Posted May 23, 2020 #61 Share Posted May 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: On the lecherous and nonsensical when speaking scales, they are a dead heat. Maybe we will have to decide by issues. Or by who can make a complete sentence relevant to questions they get asked. Dodo Donnie wouldn't have a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted May 25, 2020 #62 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 3:14 AM, aztek said: and shokin was fired in 2016, per biden's request, why would biden demand his removal if he had nothing to do with burisma and his son? do you think biden would threaten aid money over some corrupt officials he has nothign to do with? yea, sure, lol Why did everyone else want shoking removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted June 18, 2020 #63 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted June 18, 2020 #64 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Of course, corruption is just fine as we currently know. Lets talk about the really good things. Stiffed a country of a billion dollars. What a BUSINESSMAN. Then he bragged about it. What a MAN Then from across the sea he did the "You're Fired!" not to some punky whining apprentice but to an official of another country. What a REALITY STAR Biden all the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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