Dustyrose33 Posted May 29, 2020 #1 Share Posted May 29, 2020 https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/07/theres-a-compelling-reason-scientists-think-weve-never-found-aliens This link tells why scientists feel we haven't made alien contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 29, 2020 #2 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Take good hard look at humanity. Now, if you were an intelligent, spacefaring civilisation, would YOU want anything to do with us? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 29, 2020 #3 Share Posted May 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Take good hard look at humanity. Now, if you were an intelligent, spacefaring civilisation, would YOU want anything to do with us? It could be that depends what their intentions with us are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 29, 2020 #4 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ironside said: It could be that depends what their intentions with us are Mate, we literslly **** into what we drink, we are destroying the lungs of the planet in the name of profit, the latest mass extinction is literally named “caused by humans” in Latin, we pump lung rotting chemicals into the air, drink chemicals that have proven brain cell destructive properties, set off nukes in our own atmosphere and on the religion front 60 million or so of us believe we eat God once a week. that would turn off friends and make invaders think “**** no, if they do thst to themselves what will they do to us?!” I call it “the Tepes Principle” after Vlad Tepes who protected Wallachia from Turkish invasion by erecting a forest of impaled Wallachians and having the invaders “nope” out of there faster than a bout of dissentry. Edited May 29, 2020 by Sir Wearer of Hats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 29, 2020 #5 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I dunno there's a billion possibilities. they could be hungry? I agree they won't be contacting us to induct us to their Federation anytime soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted May 29, 2020 #6 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Ironside said: I agree they won't be contacting us to induct us to their Federation anytime soon... Maybe they want to induct us in their Basketball Hall of Fame? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted May 29, 2020 Author #7 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Take good hard look at humanity. Now, if you were an intelligent, spacefaring civilisation, would YOU want anything to do with us? No, but then again if I were from another world I might take pity on earth and try to help. Edited May 29, 2020 by Dustyrose33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted May 29, 2020 #8 Share Posted May 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Dustyrose33 said: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/07/theres-a-compelling-reason-scientists-think-weve-never-found-aliens This link tells why scientists feel we haven't made alien contact. We on Earth think we are involved because we have mentally conceived off and built civilization. With that being the limit of human thinking we expect to find alien civilizations spread across the galaxy. But what if civilization isn't the upper limit? What if there is something which is so far totally out of our minds that we cannot conceive of it. What if there is something higher than civilization? Why would a God need to build towns and cities and countries? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted May 29, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: We on Earth think we are involved because we have mentally conceived off and built civilization. With that being the limit of human thinking we expect to find alien civilizations spread across the galaxy. But what if civilization isn't the upper limit? What if there is something which is so far totally out of our minds that we cannot conceive of it. What if there is something higher than civilization? Why would a God need to build towns and cities and countries? Good points, that would make us unprepared to meet such beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted May 29, 2020 #10 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Who says they haven't already contacted us? Just because they didn't speak in a language we recognise doesn't mean we haven't been contacted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted May 29, 2020 Author #11 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Who says they haven't already contacted us? Just because they didn't speak in a language we recognise doesn't mean we haven't been contacted. I agree. Why would the Men In Black be so determined to quiet people if there was no contact? Edited May 29, 2020 by Dustyrose33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 29, 2020 #12 Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Dustyrose33 said: No, but then again if I were from another world I might take pity on earth and try to help. We nailed the Son of God, a man who had proven to possess Powers, to a tree out of spite. Would YOU try and help such a species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted May 29, 2020 #13 Share Posted May 29, 2020 18 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Take good hard look at humanity. Now, if you were an intelligent, spacefaring civilisation, would YOU want anything to do with us? speak for yaself, mate I'm lovely, caring, highly empathetic... There's a very very small minority of individuals on this planet that are a problem for everyone else. IF what you suggest is true then the fantasy aliens= <<all loving, all caring, highly evolved>> are not as clever & all caring as some believe if they don't get the concept of 'one bad apple'! The vast majority of humans on this planet are the same as me, & I'm sure you too dear chap... Personally I think we as a race have done bloody well so far.. Like I always say: for every horrendous act we hear in the media, there are millions of wonderful, caring, empathetic acts happening every day all over the world= we just don't get to hear of them... Only the bad sh*te. oh well, there ya go Peace. dej... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 29, 2020 #14 Share Posted May 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, Dejarma said: speak for yaself, mate I'm lovely, caring, highly empathetic... There's a very very small minority of individuals on this planet that are a problem for everyone else. IF what you suggest is true then the fantasy aliens= <<all loving, all caring, highly evolved>> are not as clever & all caring as some believe if they don't get the concept of 'one bad apple'! The vast majority of humans on this planet are the same as me, & I'm sure you too dear chap... Personally I think we as a race have done bloody well so far.. Like I always say: for every horrendous act we hear in the media, there are millions of wonderful, caring, empathetic acts happening every day all over the world= we just don't get to hear of them... Only the bad sh*te. oh well, there ya go Peace. dej... What’s the saying, I like people, it’s humanity I can’t stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted May 29, 2020 #15 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said: What’s the saying, I like people, it’s humanity I can’t stand? it's an illogical saying but yeah i've heard it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted May 29, 2020 #16 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: We nailed the Son of God, a man who had proven to possess Powers, to a tree out of spite. Would YOU try and help such a species? I'd put up a great big sign that says, "Do Not Enter. Species Hostile." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted May 29, 2020 #17 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Just now, XenoFish said: I'd put up a great big sign that says, "Do Not Enter. Species Hostile." I'm not hostile, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2020 #18 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Dejarma said: The vast majority of humans on this planet are the same as me, & I'm sure you too dear chap... Personally I think we as a race have done bloody well so far.. Like I always say: The capability for humans to be absolutely evil is always there though. Its been war and executions since the dawn of time and it hasn't seemed to change over the millenia, Good is subjective Edited May 30, 2020 by Ironside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 30, 2020 #19 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Dejarma said: I'm not hostile, are you? Only to the animals I eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted May 30, 2020 #20 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ironside said: The capability for humans to be absolutely evil is always there though. give me an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted May 30, 2020 #21 Share Posted May 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Only to the animals I eat. yeah, good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2020 #22 Share Posted May 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Dejarma said: give me an example Vlad the impaler, Nazis, every serial killer ever, child molesters, the Atlantic slave trade, I could go on forever lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted May 30, 2020 #23 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ironside said: Vlad the impaler, Nazis, every serial killer ever, child molesters, the Atlantic slave trade, I could go on forever lol what is your point? yeah I'm sure you could go on forever- so could I.... But who's responsible for these atrocities? It's just one individual or a small conglomerate, is it not? The likes of you & I are not <one of these> are we? I'm not, are you? I say the vast vast majority of humans on this planet are NOT that way inclined. They want nothing more than to live in peace, unfortunately, those with power for some reason do not like it! I guess they're worried about the plebs uprising? I don't know- what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted May 30, 2020 Author #24 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: We nailed the Son of God, a man who had proven to possess Powers, to a tree out of spite. Would YOU try and help such a species? This species needs help, not hatred. Jesus knew that when He said "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". Edited May 30, 2020 by Dustyrose33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted May 30, 2020 #25 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dejarma said: what is your point? yeah I'm sure you could go on forever- so could I.... But who's responsible for these atrocities? It's just one individual or a small conglomerate, is it not? The likes of you & I are not <one of these> are we? I'm not, are you? I say the vast vast majority of humans on this planet are NOT that way inclined. They want nothing more than to live in peace, unfortunately, those with power for some reason do not like it! I guess they're worried about the plebs uprising? I don't know- what do you Yes i suppose you're right but what im saying is whos to decide that we arent capable of the same things they are.. whats the actual physical difference between you and Jeffrey Dahmer? You had just as a likely a chance to develop into a bad person as you did a good person. I think on a all humanity scale humans generally are focusing on protecting/bettering humans. Maybe trying to save the odd whale now and again and perhaps other lifeforms are after a more enlightened species to contact. Edited May 30, 2020 by Ironside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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