zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 #1 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) A boomerang is a toy, or a weapon, that comes back to you, when you throw it at something. If you're unprepared it might hit and hurt you. That's exactly what is happening with Trump and social medias these days. Trump's wish to apply liability to them, is hitting him in the face. Latest development is Snap, the company behind SnapChat, pulling Trump's content from their Discover feed, due to it being considered "promoting violence". https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/technology/snapchat-trump.html Edited June 3, 2020 by sci-nerd 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 3, 2020 #2 Share Posted June 3, 2020 meh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted June 3, 2020 #3 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Good for them! Freedom of Speech is not absolute. The traditional example, about it being both wrong and illegal to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre, when there isn't one, sees especially apt in this instance. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted June 3, 2020 #4 Share Posted June 3, 2020 what is snapchat? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 Author #5 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, aztek said: what is snapchat? Something the kids love, and dinosaurs, like us, needs to google. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 3, 2020 #6 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Never knew they did political ads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 3, 2020 #7 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, bison said: Good for them! Freedom of Speech is not absolute. The traditional example, about it being both wrong and illegal to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre, when there isn't one, sees especially apt in this instance. Political ads is the same as shouting fire in a theatre? Edited June 3, 2020 by spartan max2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 3, 2020 #8 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, aztek said: what is snapchat? It's a app where you send a picture to someone, but the picture dissapears forever after a few seconds. And like with everything else you can have stories and filters and junk. Edited June 3, 2020 by spartan max2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Never knew they did political ads. Snapchat is a multimedia messaging app developed by Snap Inc., originally Snapchat Inc. One of the principal features of Snapchat is that pictures and messages are usually only available for a short time before they become inaccessible to their recipients. The app has evolved from originally focusing on person-to-person photo sharing to presently featuring users' "Stories" of 24 hours of chronological content, along with "Discover," letting brands show ad-supported short-form content. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapchat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted June 3, 2020 #10 Share Posted June 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: Political ads is the same as shouting fire in a theatre? What SnapChat reportedly found objectionable in Mr. Trump's posts were instances where he misstated matters of fact, and where he urged others to do violence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 Author #11 Share Posted June 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, bison said: What SnapChat reportedly found objectionable in Mr. Trump's posts were instances where he misstated matters of fact, and where he urged others to do violence. One of the things Trump said was: (about the military being instated) "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" - in a - they'll get what's coming to them - kinda way. So what he did was glorify a violent response to looting. (not that looting can be defended....) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted June 3, 2020 #12 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Yes, looting is theft and is categorically wrong. But as far as I'm aware, looting is not a capital crime. We have begun to see what happens when the police use more than the minimal force needed to maintain order. People lose their lives, who shouldn't have. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 3, 2020 #13 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 hours ago, sci-nerd said: A boomerang is a toy, or a weapon, that comes back to you, when you throw it at something. If you're unprepared it might hit and hurt you. That's exactly what is happening with Trump and social medias these days. Trump's wish to apply liability to them, is hitting him in the face. Latest development is Snap, the company behind SnapChat, pulling Trump's content from their Discover feed, due to it being considered "promoting violence". https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/technology/snapchat-trump.html At worst, it will be mutually assured destruction for Twitter. If Dorsey is willing to burn his own company to spite Trump then let him. Twitter is a toxic cesspool anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, and then said: At worst, it will be mutually assured destruction for Twitter. If Dorsey is willing to burn his own company to spite Trump then let him. Twitter is a toxic cesspool anyway. Twitter is not involved in this. The only common denominator is Trump and social media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 3, 2020 #15 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 hours ago, bison said: Yes, looting is theft and is categorically wrong. But as far as I'm aware, looting is not a capital crime. We have begun to see what happens when the police use more than the minimal force needed to maintain order. People lose their lives, who shouldn't have. Mixed amongst that crowd of thieves are people who are destroying buildings and the infrastructure of an economy. Increasingly, they are shooting cops. If thieves have no problem with acting as shields for that kind of crime then they can just take their chances. We aren't talking about snipers killing shoplifters on an average day. The other option has been tried. Pleading incessantly for understanding and patience while basically withholding force so as not to escalate. I may have missed a location where that worked but I don't think so. We are seeing a harvest from the Great Society and the trillion or so dollars America has spent to help black Americans whose ancestors suffered the horrors of slavery. The Democrat Party owns this love fest and if you don't believe it, have a look at the cities involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 3, 2020 #16 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: Twitter is not involved in this. The only common denominator is Trump and social media. Twitter isn't involved? They were the impetus for the action against social media. It was Dorsey's choice to begin censoring content, well, TRUMP content. When he did that he outed himself and the protections that were made in law for sites that share public postings became arguably the same as publishers. That means they will in fact be able to censor as they see fit but they'll also be open to lawsuits for damages to the reputations of those being slandered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 Author #17 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, and then said: Twitter isn't involved? They were the impetus for the action against social media. It was Dorsey's choice to begin censoring content, well, TRUMP content. When he did that he outed himself and the protections that were made in law for sites that share public postings became arguably the same as publishers. That means they will in fact be able to censor as they see fit but they'll also be open to lawsuits for damages to the reputations of those being slandered. You are what we Danes call a "tastatur kriger" - a keyboard warrior. I like and respect you, but I must admit that you are a little bit funny, sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted June 4, 2020 #18 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, and then said: Mixed amongst that crowd of thieves are people who are destroying buildings and the infrastructure of an economy. Increasingly, they are shooting cops. If thieves have no problem with acting as shields for that kind of crime then they can just take their chances. We aren't talking about snipers killing shoplifters on an average day. The other option has been tried. Pleading incessantly for understanding and patience while basically withholding force so as not to escalate. I may have missed a location where that worked but I don't think so. We are seeing a harvest from the Great Society and the trillion or so dollars America has spent to help black Americans whose ancestors suffered the horrors of slavery. The Democrat Party owns this love fest and if you don't believe it, have a look at the cities involved. Cities that have had, or are having demonstrations over the George Floyd killing, which also happen to have Republican administrations. I list only the largest of these to avoid an overly long list: SanDiego CA, Fort Worth TX, Oklahoma City OK, Fresno CA, Colorado Springs CO, Miami FL, Tulsa OK, Bakersfield CA, Corpus Christi TX, Scottsdale AZ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 4, 2020 #19 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, bison said: Cities that have had, or are having demonstrations over the George Floyd killing, which also happen to have Republican administrations. I list only the largest of these to avoid an overly long list: SanDiego CA, Fort Worth TX, Oklahoma City OK, Fresno CA, Colorado Springs CO, Miami FL, Tulsa OK, Bakersfield CA, Corpus Christi TX, Scottsdale AZ. There is no way SanDiego is a republican administration lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted June 4, 2020 #20 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, and then said: Mixed amongst that crowd of thieves are people who are destroying buildings and the infrastructure of an economy. Increasingly, they are shooting cops. If thieves have no problem with acting as shields for that kind of crime then they can just take their chances. We aren't talking about snipers killing shoplifters on an average day. The other option has been tried. Pleading incessantly for understanding and patience while basically withholding force so as not to escalate. I may have missed a location where that worked but I don't think so. We are seeing a harvest from the Great Society and the trillion or so dollars America has spent to help black Americans whose ancestors suffered the horrors of slavery. The Democrat Party owns this love fest and if you don't believe it, have a look at the cities involved. Cities that have had, or are having demonstrations over the George Floyd killing, which also happen to have Republican administrations. I list only the largest of these to avoid an overly long list: SanDiego CA, Jacksonville FL, Fort Worth TX, Oklahoma City OK, Fresno CA, Colorado Springs CO, Omaha NE, Miami FL, Tulsa OK, Bakersfield CA, Corpus Christi TX, Scottsdale AZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted June 4, 2020 #21 Share Posted June 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, spartan max2 said: There is no way SanDiego is a republican administration lol. The mayor of San Diego is Kevin L. Falconer. Please see the linked article below, which confirms that he is a Republican: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Faulconer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 4, 2020 #22 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, bison said: The mayor of San Diego is Kevin L. Falconer. Please see the linked article below, which confirms that he is a Republican: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Faulconer I am shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 4, 2020 Author #23 Share Posted June 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, 19_Kilo said: Damn...It's hard work being right all the time. LOL. (To recap: during our Trump v Twitter thread last week, after the site tagged his tweets with refuting links, I claimed they were embarking on a slippery slope, because, hey, what's next? Banning users they don't like?) So...yeah, it wasn't Twitter but another social media platform. But just wait and see what happens next. Cheers! You're too early claiming anything. Nobody's banned. Just "less promoted". The only one promising fight and consequence is the orange menace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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