zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 #1 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The police are seeking witnesses, in connection to the 2007 kidnapping of young Madeleine McCann, who might have seen a German man - currently imprisoned - and two cars. Knowledge about two specific phone numbers are also of interest. Man: Blonde hair, slim built,180 cm tall, 30 years old (in 2007), German national Cars: A VW T3 Westfalia campervan & a 1993 British Jaguar, model XJR 6 Phone numbers: +351 912 730 680 & +351 916 510 683 Click link for more detailed descriptions: http://news.met.police.uk/news/operation-grange-update-and-appeal-403826 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerBright19 Posted June 3, 2020 #2 Share Posted June 3, 2020 13 years and 12 million pounds ago. Rewind to 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 3, 2020 Author #3 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Aaron2017 said: 13 years and 12 million pounds ago. Rewind to 2007. Blaming the victims has always been a typical police approach. Often to cover up their own incompetence. We also saw that with Richard Jewell back in 1996. Edited June 3, 2020 by sci-nerd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 3, 2020 #4 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I heard Madeleine contacted in the spirit world after her death. She says her father gave her too much sleep-inducing medication before he went out partying and accidently caused her death. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #5 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, 19_Kilo said: Once again, you guys with your paranormal contact claims can bring nothing new to the table that couldn't be found out by purely normal and logical means...... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563090/Madeleine-McCann-died-from-overdose.html I don't get your point. Why should a paranormal claim not sometimes confirm what some suspected normally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 4, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted June 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I heard Madeleine contacted in the spirit world after her death. She says her father gave her too much sleep-inducing medication before he went out partying and accidently caused her death. That's nonsense. Gerry McCann is a doctor, a cardiologist. He would never accidently overdose his own child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #7 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: That's nonsense. Gerry McCann is a doctor, a cardiologist. He would never accidently overdose his own child. He wanted her to sleep extra long and quietly apparently. He judged its dosage reaction wrong obviously and these things aren't perfectly predictable beyond standard dosage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 4, 2020 #8 Share Posted June 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I heard Madeleine contacted in the spirit world after her death. She says her father gave her too much sleep-inducing medication before he went out partying and accidently caused her death. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 4, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: He wanted her to sleep extra long and quietly apparently. He judged its dosage reaction wrong obviously and these things aren't perfectly predictable beyond standard dosage. You're accusing a father of causing his own child's death. That is beyond low. That is despicable. You are a disgrace to all you stand for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #10 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Piney said: Source? Channeling Erik. Piney has declared them unconscionable frauds if I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 4, 2020 #11 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, papageorge1 said: Channeling Erik. Piney has declared them unconscionable frauds if I recall. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #12 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, sci-nerd said: You're accusing a father of causing his own child's death. That is beyond low. That is despicable. You are a disgrace to all you stand for. LOL, It wasn't me sci-nerd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 4, 2020 Author #13 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, papageorge1 said: LOL, It wasn't me sci-nerd! It was you who stated it. And don't hide behind a ghost. They are transparent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #14 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, sci-nerd said: It was you who stated it. And don't hide behind a ghost. They are transparent. I feel the human channels are only being honest with the information they receive. Take it as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted June 4, 2020 #15 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I don't understand how this one missing child garnered so much more importance and so much more money than thousands of other missing children. If I was one other other parents, my anger and distress would know no bounds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 4, 2020 Author #16 Share Posted June 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Piney has declared them unconscionable frauds if I recall. Who did @Piney call unconscionable frauds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted June 4, 2020 Author #17 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, glorybebe said: I don't understand how this one missing child garnered so much more importance and so much more money than thousands of other missing children. If I was one other other parents, my anger and distress would know no bounds You are right. But people need symbolic cases to really get behind it. When they see other people joining, it strengthens the case, and the feeling of a common cause. It's psychology more than anything fair or just. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted June 4, 2020 #18 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, sci-nerd said: Who did @Piney call unconscionable frauds? A mother and psychic who channel her son. She claims he committed suicide but many of us police type people think she murdered him. They "channeled" many famous people but were wrong in many aspects of their lives. They also discuss a lot of disproven outdated Edgar Cayce woocrap. http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/buyer-beware-my-son-and-the-afterlife.1077/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #19 Share Posted June 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: Who did @Piney call unconscionable frauds? The people involved in the channeling. I feel rather certain that they are honest and sincere myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #20 Share Posted June 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, 19_Kilo said: My point was that if something is already common knowledge, then any claim that said info was gleaned via paranormal spirit contact is left wanting as far as credibility is concerned. If the ghostie contact yielded some inside info that was not yet discovered, and then confirmed to be legit later, after the seance or whatever, well, the paranormal validity would be much heightened. Yet, this latter scenario never seems to happen. Again it seems reasonable to me that a considered possibility would be confirmed. Not seeing the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #21 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, 19_Kilo said: Oh, there's no problem with the claim that you claim the girl's spirit told about the sleep med OD. It's just that since that CoD was pretty much already determined, your claim is hugely uncompelling. Boring, one might say. No offense. The purpose of the channeling was to see how Madeleine was adjusting and for ascertaining the truth. If the truth is boring I still want the truth. Can't be that boring if we are still talking about it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted June 4, 2020 #22 Share Posted June 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, 19_Kilo said: You may have a point there, papa. But I woulda been "One and out" on this thread if not for my replies to your questions. LOL It’s good I bring the spice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted June 4, 2020 #23 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I have always found the parents story fishy who leaves your kids in that age alone to go partying and with the Door unlocked. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted June 4, 2020 #24 Share Posted June 4, 2020 9 hours ago, sci-nerd said: That's nonsense. Gerry McCann is a doctor, a cardiologist. He would never accidently overdose his own child. You mean "He would never deliberately overdose his own child". Accidents are accidental! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted June 4, 2020 #25 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, glorybebe said: I don't understand how this one missing child garnered so much more importance and so much more money than thousands of other missing children. If I was one other other parents, my anger and distress would know no bounds Perceived 'beauty' has always sold newspapers. A child of attractive, white, middle-class professionals, Madeleine was a cute girl, with (we can assume) a lifetime of looking pretty ahead of her, who disappeared in an exotic location overseas. It's a much 'sexier' story than a black boy with goofy teeth and glasses, missing from a working-class housing estate, for example. Edited June 4, 2020 by acute 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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