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3 hours ago, acidhead said:

This isn't a protest

Not at all.  This is the opening round of civil war if the Left can generate enough passion to sustain it.  It will be VERY INSTRUCTIVE to watch where it happens and where it does not happen.  

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14 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

When it comes to crime statistics in the US then black people make up 12% of the population but commit about half of the murders: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

Here in the UK two thirds of our knife crimes are committed by ethnic youth https://fullfact.org/crime/are-majority-youth-knife-offenders-minority-ethnic/. About 10% of our population are ethnic minorities.

So when black people complain about being stopped and searched more then what do they expect? It isn't racism at all, its just he police doing their jobs. As for Mr George Floyd while his death is tragic, lets not forget if he wasn't out committing crime he would never have had police trying to detain him.

 So Cookie, having said the above, do you believe that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities ?

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2 hours ago, thedutchiedutch said:

 So Cookie, having said the above, do you believe that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities ?

Of course not.  The primary determinant is the choices they make.  In the U.S., there is a direct correlation between education and crime.  Those young men who are growing up in inner city neighborhoods have no access to decent education because the Dems have controlled the unions for decades and teachers need not be skilled at all to keep their jobs until THEY choose to leave.  It's a trap and it brings huge problems to the black demographic.

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"Black lives matter" yes they do very much so but so do all the people those protesters go home and mix with after they've finished marching,protesting,crowding together, and vandalizing during a pandemic idiots 

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20 hours ago, fran123 said:

I wonder what the media reaction will be when shops are looted and burnt? Think it's bound to happen.

 

they will find some way to either down play it or ignore it completely if they think they can get away with it...

or blame it on outside forces - although outside forces could easily whip up the mob mentality - like agent provocateurs -
 

 

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I don't listen to the MSM news but yesterday when I was in the car and had (BBC) Hereford and Worcester local radio on when the 12 o'clock news came on I listened closely to hear what they were going to say...

briefly

They led with a report about scientists saying that if the Lockdown had happened earlier many lives would have been saved - the subtext being...... Boris Johnson's decisions killed people and he is a bad PM.....

The next item was that there was a Rally in Malvern  to support anti Racism... and the organizer was given air time to talk about it.....

then a bit of local stuff about this and that... 

NO MENTION at all about the London Rally... not the peaceful protest - not the violence - nothing about the horses - and the police injuries... NOTHING about the social distancing rules being blatantly ignored...

typical BBC reporting...

and then to cap it all the first song they played after the news was one that talked about women and protest marches and life being changed... I have tried to find the song on the internet to have another listen because I didn't catch the singer or song title.. but it starts with women's names and what they are doing ... from around the late 70s... I think..

but anyway... basically what I'm getting at is that the whole thing is MICRO MANAGED...

and then last night I stumbled on this video and watched it and it was interesting and illustrates how symbols etc can be used for advertising and obviously this applies to political messages as well... and is a solid reason to avoid the MSM news AND adverts on other TV channels.... (it goes without saying to avoid Soap Opera's).... I'm saying to avoid adverts not because of the product or service that they are advertising but because of the subtext and social engineering that they are used for... advertising is used like the news is used...


Derren Brown Advertising Agency Task

 

 

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6 hours ago, thedutchiedutch said:

 So Cookie, having said the above, do you believe that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities ?

If we look at poor white people then a large number of them they buy into sub-cultures where they believe they are being exploited, that capitalism keeps them down, that the elite of society are greedy and corrupt. In order to preserve their egos there is no self-reflection where they realise that because they didnt try hard at school, or arent willing to return to education as an adult, then they have a lack of skills from which to get a well paid position.

The black crim statistics are also a cultural phenomenon.

Its not caused by the skilled and qualified blacks, they have decent well paid jobs in the City, NHS, and elsewhere. Its the poor ones. Just like the white poor it is mostly black people from council housing estates. The sub-culture they buy into is that the white man is keeping them down, onto of the same sub-cultures the poor white man buys into. It forms their justification to hate on anybody who is successful, to hate the capitalist society they live in, and in the case of the black ones to interpret everything as being caused by racism.

Its why council estates produce the lions share of criminals. Such is the wonderous ego that those who think they are entitled to more being thieves, drug dealers, knife crime, gang related crime, and engage in anti-social behaviour. Then once they have messed their lives up with a stint in prison its hard to shake themselves out of that lifestyle. Many of them just descend into a deeper hatred. The end result is they believe in communism, or heavy socialism.

Multi-culturalism is the cause. Not because there is anything wrong with other cultures, but because it suspends us promoting a British culture, British values, and a British way of doing things, to stop out all the dysfunctional cultures that emerge amongst the poorest of society.

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4 hours ago, and then said:

Of course not.  The primary determinant is the choices they make.  In the U.S., there is a direct correlation between education and crime.  Those young men who are growing up in inner city neighborhoods have no access to decent education because the Dems have controlled the unions for decades and teachers need not be skilled at all to keep their jobs until THEY choose to leave.  It's a trap and it brings huge problems to the black demographic.

Yes, the lack of education plays a role as I have also alluded too.

But in the UK the poor get grants for education up to degree level where their contribution is determined based on their income. It means that the lack of skills and qualifications is really caused by lack of motivation to get them here in the UK. Only those with a decent income pay the full £12,000 per year at university.

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5 minutes ago, bee said:

 

I don't listen to the MSM news but yesterday when I was in the car and had (BBC) Hereford and Worcester local radio on when the 12 o'clock news came on I listened closely to hear what they were going to say...

briefly

They led with a report about scientists saying that if the Lockdown had happened earlier many lives would have been saved - the subtext being...... Boris Johnson's decisions killed people and he is a bad PM.....

The next item was that there was a Rally in Malvern  to support anti Racism... and the organizer was given air time to talk about it.....

then a bit of local stuff about this and that... 

NO MENTION at all about the London Rally... not the peaceful protest - not the violence - nothing about the horses - and the police injuries... NOTHING about the social distancing rules being blatantly ignored...

typical BBC reporting...

and then to cap it all the first song they played after the news was one that talked about women and protest marches and life being changed... I have tried to find the song on the internet to have another listen because I didn't catch the singer or song title.. but it starts with women's names and what they are doing ... from around the late 70s... I think..

but anyway... basically what I'm getting at is that the whole thing is MICRO MANAGED...

and then last night I stumbled on this video and watched it and it was interesting and illustrates how symbols etc can be used for advertising and obviously this applies to political messages as well... and is a solid reason to avoid the MSM news AND adverts on other TV channels.... (it goes without saying to avoid Soap Opera's).... I'm saying to avoid adverts not because of the product or service that they are advertising but because of the subtext and social engineering that they are used for... advertising is used like the news is used...


Derren Brown Advertising Agency Task

 

 

Lefty bias is why Microsoft sold MSM, they couldn't stand it anymore.

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44 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Lefty bias is why Microsoft sold MSM, they couldn't stand it anymore.

 

problem is..... and it's a MAJOR problem

is that the MSM and Sillicon Valley (microsoft etc).... are in cahoots and becoming one and the same when it comes to censorship and social engineering and agenda...

???

 

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1 hour ago, bee said:

NO MENTION...

typical BBC reporting...

"No mention", perhaps the greatest weapon in their, or anybodies propaganda arsenal. People are not fools and will see through the blatant propagandising used in the past by totalitarian regimes, and more and more in our own times here, though there will be a drip drip effect. But not to say an event has occured, or even that an opinion not wanted by the BBC etc exists, is more damaging. Though if something has occured it will out eventually, though what occured will be spun and spun and spun, often by telling only one side of the story, or by using a "usefull idiot", often working class and inarticulate, to supposedly speak for the "other side". Or, they can ask questions that at face value make it seem they are covering both sides, but it's a trick. For example, last night I was listening to Stephen Nolan on radio 5 ask a guest, a black woman, about the attack on the police horse and the injuries, serious it seems, to the police officer, and how that can be justified. A good and valid question. She excused the appalling actions of these rioters by saying that black people were dying in police custody, and Nolan just let her get away with it. That's propaganda. But, in these "interesting times", I've probably committed a "hate crime" for even mentioning this, and me even saying that is proof that I am a victim of propaganda to think that I could be a "hate crimminal" for "wrong think". Oh how wonderful it is to live in these times with the world turned upside down and inside out.

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13 hours ago, and then said:

Not at all.  This is the opening round of civil war if the Left can generate enough passion to sustain it.  It will be VERY INSTRUCTIVE to watch where it happens and where it does not happen.  

Yes, and all this will do is turn the silent majority even more against them. Has Brexit & the election taught them nothing?

Their problem is that they think the country stops at the M25, it doesn't.

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2 hours ago, bee said:

 

problem is..... and it's a MAJOR problem

is that the MSM and Sillicon Valley (microsoft etc).... are in cahoots and becoming one and the same when it comes to censorship and social engineering and agenda...

???

 

 

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Breaking news.....The Metropolitan police have organized a squad of their hardest officers to deal with the protests.....

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And the Mancester division.

 

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3 hours ago, bee said:

 

problem is..... and it's a MAJOR problem

is that the MSM and Sillicon Valley (microsoft etc).... are in cahoots and becoming one and the same when it comes to censorship and social engineering and agenda...

???

 

 

Revoke the TV Licence

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300118

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I was thinking whose statue will be torn down next and wondered if the statue of Robert Clive (Clive of India) standing in Shrewsbury might be a target for the mob, oh dear, it is

Remove Clive of India statue

And the observant who know the history of the French Revolution will probably have picked up on the "crime" of "insufficient revolutionary zeal" appearing now in a new format based on the slogan "silence is violence". There is nothing new under the sun, particularly when it comes to the mob and the cynics behind the mob.

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17 minutes ago, Wepwawet said:

I was thinking whose statue will be torn down next and wondered if the statue of Robert Clive (Clive of India) standing in Shrewsbury might be a target for the mob, oh dear, it is

Remove Clive of India statue

And the observant who know the history of the French Revolution will probably have picked up on the "crime" of "insufficient revolutionary seal" appearing now in a new format based on the slogan "silence is violence". There is nothing new under the sun, particularly when it comes to the mob and the cynics behind the mob.

How about the statue of Nelson Mandela in London...after all, he did start out as a terrorist.

I think not somehow.

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4 hours ago, bee said:

 

I don't listen to the MSM news but yesterday when I was in the car and had (BBC) Hereford and Worcester local radio on when the 12 o'clock news came on I listened closely to hear what they were going to say...

briefly

They led with a report about scientists saying that if the Lockdown had happened earlier many lives would have been saved - the subtext being...... Boris Johnson's decisions killed people and he is a bad PM.....

The next item was that there was a Rally in Malvern  to support anti Racism... and the organizer was given air time to talk about it.....

then a bit of local stuff about this and that... 

NO MENTION at all about the London Rally... not the peaceful protest - not the violence - nothing about the horses - and the police injuries... NOTHING about the social distancing rules being blatantly ignored...

typical BBC reporting...

and then to cap it all the first song they played after the news was one that talked about women and protest marches and life being changed... I have tried to find the song on the internet to have another listen because I didn't catch the singer or song title.. but it starts with women's names and what they are doing ... from around the late 70s... I think..

but anyway... basically what I'm getting at is that the whole thing is MICRO MANAGED...

and then last night I stumbled on this video and watched it and it was interesting and illustrates how symbols etc can be used for advertising and obviously this applies to political messages as well... and is a solid reason to avoid the MSM news AND adverts on other TV channels.... (it goes without saying to avoid Soap Opera's).... I'm saying to avoid adverts not because of the product or service that they are advertising but because of the subtext and social engineering that they are used for... advertising is used like the news is used...


Derren Brown Advertising Agency Task

 

 

Black people make up 3% of the population in the UK, you rarely get an advert without black people in it, plenty without white people.

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i just simply cannot understand: 

- what makes this case racist

- what does it have to do with BLM

-10's of thousands will probably lose their lives due to the fact many have ignored lockdown rules for mass gatherings

-how can Floyd be classed as a 'hero'?

 

so much wrong. It seems there is massive support for the protesters, however I personally think there are  many who have either kept quiet so as not to be deemed racist or have even gone along with things (even though they dont agree) so as not to be deemed racist

the media will make you believe everything and everyone is racist and the whole world is outraged but I dont think the majority are fooled by this, even though it feels this way....the silent will eventually speak 

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I wonder why the BBC felt the need to crop this picture on their website .....hmmm.

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"Protests were 'largely' peaceful" ...in the same way that the BBC are 'largely' economical with the truth

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16 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

I wonder why the BBC felt the need to crop this picture on their website .....hmmm.

"Protests were 'largely' peaceful" ...in the same way that the BBC are 'largely' economical with the trut

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has to fit a certain 'made up' narrative they instigated.....

media create the runaway train and people just swallow it whole and run with it...

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28 minutes ago, quillius said:

i just simply cannot understand: 

- what makes this case racist

- what does it have to do with BLM

-10's of thousands will probably lose their lives due to the fact many have ignored lockdown rules for mass gatherings

-how can Floyd be classed as a 'hero'?

 

so much wrong. It seems there is massive support for the protesters, however I personally think there are  many who have either kept quiet so as not to be deemed racist or have even gone along with things (even though they dont agree) so as not to be deemed racist

the media will make you believe everything and everyone is racist and the whole world is outraged but I dont think the majority are fooled by this, even though it feels this way....the silent will eventually speak 

They haven't been heard yet because the silent majority are primarily law abiding as opposed to the feral mob.

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