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Xeno-Fish
8 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

that whistleblower is not credible....

bob and travis didnt study how to beat a lie detector test..in school.....lol

If you can convince yourself that your lie is true, then according to the test it is perceived as a "true" lie. 

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

To bad the liedetector is far from 100%... Would be awesome if it was.

It seems to me that you choose to believe in all these stories. Based on nothing more than your.... ??? What?

Till me, how do you separate the BS, fakes and hoaxes from "the real deal"?

its easy to tell the difference between CGI and real thing...

First u have to verify the evidence from multiple sources . If all sources verify the same description, and all evidence match then u know its real.

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, XenoFish said:

If you can convince yourself that your lie is true, then according to the test it is perceived as a "true" lie. 

I get what ur saying...this is why u have to verify a suspects claim. If the claims that he or she makes is verified then the lie detector test was accurate. In other words prove that the suspect and lie detector test is correct. And indeed some of his claims where proven. 

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Xeno-Fish
4 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

I get what ur saying...this is why u have to verify a suspects claim. If the claims that he or she makes is verified then the lie detector test was accurate. In other words prove that the suspect and lie detector test is correct. And indeed some of his claims where proven. 

If they were telling the truth they'd be dead. You don't blab top secret info without eating a piece of copper coat candy. 

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Hazzard
45 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

its easy to tell the difference between CGI and real thing...

First u have to verify the evidence from multiple sources . If all sources verify the same description, and all evidence match then u know its real.

Are any of those multiple sources skeptical or scientific in nature, or are we talking the usual credulous UFO kook sites?

Can you give me an example of a site that you use to verify a pic/story?

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, XenoFish said:

If they were telling the truth they'd be dead. You don't blab top secret info without eating a piece of copper coat candy. 

He said it in the interviews they were trying to kill him. At one point when he was driving he heard gunshots in his direction and they tried to run him off the road. They threatened his wife, the FBI raided his home. They tried to get him locked up. They even tried to  assassinate his character by erasing his educational background. They went to his old school and jobs tried to delete every paper trace about. Even his hospital records all the way down to his birth certificate. They are trying to make him look non-credible. But If they killed him it would just make his story more convincing.

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Are any of those multiple sources skeptical or scientific in nature, or are we talking the usual credulous UFO kook sites?

Can you give me an example of a site that you use to verify a pic/story?

i just google police reports pilot reports radar reports dates and time of the sightings. You look at how many calls people made to local police or near by military bases about the sightings, just research evidence. U dont just look at a video or a photograph and just say oh its a weather balloon

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Hazzard
23 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

.........But If they killed him it would just make his story more convincing.

But didnt you just say that they DID try to kill him?

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Hazzard
1 minute ago, ufoguy said:

i just google police reports pilot reports radar reports dates and time of the sightings. You look at how many calls people made to local police or near by military bases about the sightings, just research evidence. U dont just look at a video or a photograph and just say oh its a weather balloon

Ok, but still, in the end all you have is someone saying something.So it all comes down to what you choose to believe. Not very scientific. Not even close to the type of extraordinary evidence I need.

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

But didnt you just say that they DID try to kill him?

They did try to kill him and tried to make it look like an accident. Thats why he had to come forward with his story. Being that he told his story before they can kill him, the people who threatened bob at the S4 facility knew that if they killed him, it would make his story more believable to the public. So they did the next best thing. Character assassination. Make him look non-credible. 

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Hazzard
1 minute ago, ufoguy said:

They did try to kill him and tried to make it look like an accident. Thats why he had to come forward with his story. Being that he told his story before they can kill him, the people who threatened bob at the S4 facility knew that if they killed him, it would make his story more believable to the public. So they did the next best thing. Character assassination. Make him look non-credible. 

Forget all that crap......,Even if its true, in the very end all we have here is a fantastic story, without a shread of evidence, that you CHOOSE to believe in... because you want to!

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Ok, but still, in the end all you have is someone saying something.So it all comes down to what you choose to believe. Not very scientific. Not even close to the type of extraordinary evidence I need.

Look scientist want physical evidence, they want a piece of the craft. Something to touch and analyze . But its not going to happen, unless they get to a crash site first before the military. Right now they are more worried about their reputation when it comes to the topic. . Even if they got the proof they needed, what are they going to do with it?

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Forget all that crap......,Even if its true, in the very end all we have here is a fantastic story, without a shread of evidence, that you CHOOSE to believe in... because you want to!

If it makes sense yes.

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psyche101
3 hours ago, ufoguy said:

Phil Schneider is speaking the truth.....

If he spoke the truth it would make him grow up in his mouth. 

Why do you say things that are not true so often? Is this normal in your everyday life too? 

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Hazzard
53 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

If it makes sense yes.

Well ok then. :D

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ufoguy
3 hours ago, psyche101 said:

If he spoke the truth it would make him grow up in his mouth. 

Why do you say things that are not true so often? Is this normal in your everyday life too? 

 Almost all ufos are alien.

 

 

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Hazzard
18 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

 Almost all ufos are alien.

 

There is a mundane explanation for this UFO (and the other NAVY videos) in the link I posted a few pages ago. But you didnt look at it, did you?!

Ever heard of Occams Razor?

Of course you havent, and you probably wouldnt agree with it anyway.....you would rather die than to have your favorite fantasy shattered.

 

 

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ufoguy
On 7/3/2020 at 5:23 AM, Hazzard said:

There are multiple possible prosaic explanations for the Navy pilots' observations, said Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute in Mountain View, California.  He pointed out, for example, that the sightings occurred off the coast, as did a similar 2004 observation unveiled in conjunction with the December 2017 stories. (That previous sighting occurred near San Diego).

Coastal regions are where you might expect to find a rival nation's advanced reconnaissance craft, Shostak said, because incursions over the continental United States would be more obvious and easily detected.  He also noted that, according to the recent Times story, the Navy pilots began spotting the UFOs after their jets' radar system was upgraded. That detail suggests the sightings might stem from some sort of software bug or instrument issue, he said.

https://www.space.com/ufos-real-but-not-alien-spaceships.html

 

I dont think there is just one explanation for the UFOs these guys reported, there is most likely a number of real and not so real "targets". I also think that whatever said UFO really was, ET has to be at the bottom of a very long list...

Wait u believe Seth Shostak? ...(smh) seth knows that ufos are real. He is part of a disinformation group paid by the government. He is being paid to say that there is nothing to ufos. He knows that lol using radio to contact aliens is so unrealistic. Especially if aliens are a million years ahead of us. Even if there is contact by radio, who do u think hes going to reveal the news to first, the public or the government? Anything with SETI involving information about aliens is not getting pass the government first. SETI is just there to keep people from thinking that aliens are already here. Hes just a debunker thats it.

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psyche101
3 hours ago, ufoguy said:

 Almost all ufos are alien.

 

 

You didn't answer my question.

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Rlyeh
9 hours ago, ufoguy said:

Phil Schneider is speaking the truth.....

Phil Schneider is speaking out of his ass.

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Rlyeh
4 hours ago, ufoguy said:

Wait u believe Seth Shostak? ...(smh) seth knows that ufos are real. He is part of a disinformation group paid by the government. He is being paid to say that there is nothing to ufos. He knows that lol using radio to contact aliens is so unrealistic. Especially if aliens are a million years ahead of us. Even if there is contact by radio, who do u think hes going to reveal the news to first, the public or the government? Anything with SETI involving information about aliens is not getting pass the government first. SETI is just there to keep people from thinking that aliens are already here. Hes just a debunker thats it.

Who is paying you to make up this crap?  lol. You're not very convincing, get a new job.

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Hazzard
9 hours ago, ufoguy said:

Wait u believe Seth Shostak? ...(smh) seth knows that ufos are real. He is part of a disinformation group paid by the government. He is being paid to say that there is nothing to ufos. He knows that lol using radio to contact aliens is so unrealistic. Especially if aliens are a million years ahead of us. Even if there is contact by radio, who do u think hes going to reveal the news to first, the public or the government? Anything with SETI involving information about aliens is not getting pass the government first. SETI is just there to keep people from thinking that aliens are already here. Hes just a debunker thats it.

Your ignorance is staggering!

Even if Shostak is one of those pesky MIBs we see in the movies, what makes you think that one guy in the US can put the lid on such an extraordinary event, should it ever occur?

As of 2018 there are 72 space agencies world wide engaged in activities related to outer space and space exploration. Not even to mention the thousands of amature astronomers all over the planet.

There is a zero chance of keeping an ET signal a secret.

 

"If we're looking at an interesting signal--one that's passing the tests that can separate the local interference from an extraterrestrial transmission--then a lot of people know, even before we call up someone in another state or another country to verify its reality. The excitement begins to build long before the detection is confirmed.

What happens there after departs from the protocol, because the media start calling. When, in June of 1997, we had a suspicious signal on our computer screens, a NewYork Times science reporter was on the phone with me within hours."

https://www.space.com/2750-contact-signal.html

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toast
11 hours ago, ufoguy said:

 seth knows that ufos are real. He is part of a disinformation group paid by the government. He is being paid to say that there is nothing to ufos.

Well done, great BS.

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He knows that lol using radio to contact aliens is so unrealistic. Especially if aliens are a million years ahead of us. Even if there is contact by radio, who do u think hes going to reveal the news to first, the public or the government? Anything with SETI involving information about aliens is not getting pass the government first. SETI is just there to keep people from thinking that aliens are already here. Hes just a debunker thats it.

Again we have an "UFO expert", this time its you, who didnt understood the work of Shostak/The SETI Institute. It isnt the work of the SETI Institute to contact possible alien worlds by radio signals. The work of SETI is passive, means, to listen to possible radio wave signals by possible alien worlds.

If you want to join the chorus, you need to know the lyrics at least, which you dont.

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ufoguy
11 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Who is paying you to make up this crap?  lol. You're not very convincing, get a new job.

ahh i like my job thank u very much..!.:D

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