Support for Brexit is collapsing

[itsnotoutthere]

2 hours ago, Montmorency the Dog said:

I'd ******ing rather be ruled by Genghis ****** Khan than Boris and his little band of cardboard cut-outs, that i do know . Does anyone still use the arguments about "sovereignty" and "the British people having a say in who rules them" after what we've seen this year of rule by decree from a petty little pocket dictator?

You've been watching too much BBC mate.

[itsnotoutthere]

4 hours ago, 'Walt' E. Kurtz said:

Im abviavalent when it comes to this question from what i know most Brits still want out. However the youth should be more positive towards remaining in the EU. 

Are you kidding? Have you not been aware of the youth unemployment rate in the rest of europe. Why do you think they've all been coming here for work in the last few years, and still coming.

[Jarocal]

1 hour ago, Helen of Annoy said:

doesn't work like that.

It "doesn't work like that" with Brexit that Germany has a higher proportion of the financial burden in the EU? Judging by the fact theirs is the strongest economy in the EU it would appear to work like that. 

Unlike Brexiteers I saw no issue with poorer countries receiving more benefits than the three largest economies in the union as the common market continued to develop if cooperative efforts were made to better service the citizens and to expand markets.

Some accomplishments were achieved, Airbus gained global market share and Boeing slid. That was in part due to EU expansion, and IMHO equal part due to incompetence on the part of Boeing management. 

The fishing ground treaty that someone mentioned earlier benefits the EU as a whole. British plates could as inexpensively have a fish from a French boat on them as one from a British vessel. The gain to the EU was that three fleets managing the resource cooperatively provided a lower cost to the consumer than the three working against each other for individual gain.

I never implied that the UK was funding the whole of the EU. Brexiteers chose to look at what resources the UK was putting into the EU and weighed that against the returns they perceived from that investment.

[itsnotoutthere]

16 hours ago, Captain Risky said:

Support for Brexit is collapsing as poll finds big majority of British people want to be in the EU

 

• A newly released survey found just 35% of British people supporting Brexit, with 57% wanting to rejoin the European Union.
• The nearly 60% of people who told the European Social Survey that they wanted Britain to be in the EU was far greater than the 48% who backed Remain in 2016.
• Support for EU membership has risen across Europe, the survey said
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• https://www.businessinsider.com.au/brexit-poll-most-british-people-want-to-rejoin-eu-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

The nearly 60% of (of the 100 people we asked) told the European Social Survey that they wanted Britain to be in the EU was far greater than the 48% who backed Remain in 2016.ho told the European Social Survey that they wanted Britain to be in the EU was far greater than the 48% who backed Remain in 2016.

fixed it.

[Helen of Annoy]

8 minutes ago, Jarocal said:

 

I never implied that the UK was funding the whole of the EU. Brexiteers chose to look at what resources the UK was putting into the EU and weighed that against the returns they perceived from that investment.

Oddly enough, that calculation was done by the great Brexiter minds only after a plague of populists popped up everywhere in Europe (count the US clown into that club too).

Anyway, you're out. Bye. 

[Jarocal]

2 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Are you kidding? Have you not been aware of the youth unemployment rate in the rest of europe. Why do you think they've all been coming here for work in the last few years, and still coming.

Which are policy failings not only of those countries but the EU as a whole. Economists still look at snapshots of today's market share, make guesses as to which may grab a bit more of the current market. Where are the leaders innovating new markets?

I mean the same could be said for the USA, we bemoan the loss of domestic manufacturing jobs but our leaders provide no clear method to achieve their stated goals.

[Autochthon1990]

"Well we crashed the economy, killed trade deals, ruined our diplomatic standing with the continent, and elected an idiot who got himself infected with COVID because he was too stupid to put up social distancing rules...but boy we sure showed that 5 percent muslim population who's boss!"

[stevewinn]

A poll carried out by European Social Survey. Laughable. 

The UK has left the EU and will not be rejoining. 

The EU have conceded on fishing grounds. The deadline has passed for any trade talk extension. Our independent tariff schedule as been filed. 

We are on our way. 

 

 

@Captain Risky

 

 

 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, stevewinn said:

A poll carried out by European Social Survey. Laughable. 

The UK has left the EU and will not be rejoining. 

The EU have conceded on fishing grounds. The deadline has passed for any trade talk extension. Our independent tariff schedule as been filed. 

We are on our way. 

 

 

@Captain Risky

 

 

 

@stevewinn it’s been over 4 years and nothing has happened. No agreements no nothing. I’m really confused how you or anyone else can draw confidence from that fact. People sense a mistake. It’s natural to have regrets. 

[Electric Scooter]

Freedom is the greatest possession a people can own.

You dont hand over your freedom because you are afraid of Germany, because you dont want them to invade and annex you again, because you are scared of being devastated in a major war. You stand and you fight for your freedom.

Us Brits have enjoyed and fought for our freedom for 1000 years and will continue to do so. We beat all comers too, we saw off Napoleon and Hitler along with various other despots that wanted to conquer and enslave us. 

We are beginning our return to greatness at the end of the year, soon a nice big chunk of the planet will be drinking tea and watching cricket once again! Now all we need to do is find us a leader to implement `Empire under the sun` lol.

Edited June 29, 2020 by Cookie Monster

['Walt' E. Kurtz]

I feel the Brits might want back in the EU in a couple of years.... 

[RoofGardener]

23 hours ago, Captain Risky said:

Not really. You see the time is fast approaching and brexit has failed on all its promises. People ask questions and readjust. Its natural to question.  

Brexit hasn't failed on all of its promises, because Brexit hasn't happened yet ! 

18 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

It doesn't work like that. 

It's Brexiter misconception that money is being poured into some imaginary EU black hole where it simply disappears. It doesn't just disappear, it finances any imaginable activity through system of funds, throughout the EU. Which is incompatible with isolationist Brexiter mentality. Brexiters chose to lose the support of EU funds because they'll rather end up bankrupt than see someone else benefit from the same funds too. 

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@Helen of Annoy, there is some truth in what you say.  The EU is very successful at boosting the economy of Europe as a whole. 

However, this can be to the detriment of some individual countries, the UK being one of them. In a nutshell, the British public became disgruntled at having to subsidise Greece, Latvia, Rumania, and a seemingly neverending list of new accession countries. In addition, in order to fulfil its original mandate, the European Union was abstracting too many legal powers to itself, and in effect becoming a fully-fledged superstate. Again, this might benefit the EU as a whole, but it can be to the detriment of individual Nations, the UK being one of them. 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, 'Walt' E. Kurtz said:

I feel the Brits might want back in the EU in a couple of years.... 

Well hard line stances lead to hard falls. This is fact. Bad enough for the British economy that its leaving and headed into unchartered waters now it wants to do so without even a trade deal. The divide between brexit reality and how it will effect the average UKer is at its thinest point. Barring a miraculous plethora of trade deals swamping number 10 from fictional star systems in our galaxies the UK is headed over the abyss and back into the loving embrace of the EU. 

[Electric Scooter]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Brexit hasn't failed on all of its promises, because Brexit hasn't happened yet ! 

@Helen of Annoy, there is some truth in what you say.  The EU is very successful at boosting the economy of Europe as a whole. 

However, this can be to the detriment of some individual countries, the UK being one of them. In a nutshell, the British public became disgruntled at having to subsidise Greece, Latvia, Rumania, and a seemingly neverending list of new accession countries. In addition, in order to fulfil its original mandate, the European Union was abstracting too many legal powers to itself, and in effect becoming a fully-fledged superstate. Again, this might benefit the EU as a whole, but it can be to the detriment of individual Nations, the UK being one of them. 

That is correct and well said.

An additional problem the EU causes is it attempts to create an artificial level playing field for its member states. That means dampening down the strengths of each member state while countering their weaknesses. Its international socialism at its worst turning all member states into equals.

The UK, France, and Germany, have a lot of strengths with few weaknesses. Eastern Europe has a lot of weaknesses with few strengths. This isn`t racial in origin. In fact Eastern Europe used to be a very prosperous region. Its the result of past historical conflicts and punishment for WW1. Prussia, Austria, and Russia, dismantled the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth which was a superpower. Then as a punishment for WW1 Austro-Hungary also got dismantled which up until that point was a superpower too.

In order to create an EU of equals its member states are drowned in red tape, suffocated in 1001 trade regulations to prevent nations exploiting what they are good at while helping weak states to compete. We dont need it, we dont benefit from it, and its another of the major reasons the UK voted for Brexit. A third region is the free movement of people which has seen a large number of Eastern Europeans move to the wealthier member states knowing they can earn more money.

For the UK, the EU has cost us a lot more than we have gained so it is right for us to leave. I would encourage France and Germany to dump it too. In fact with the higher EU budget they now have to fund I dont think it will be long before their respective Governments are forced to give their peoples referendums.

[Electric Scooter]

1 minute ago, Captain Risky said:

Well hard line stances lead to hard falls. This is fact. Bad enough for the British economy that its leaving and headed into unchartered waters now it wants to do so without even a trade deal. The divide between brexit reality and how it will effect the average UKer is at its thinest point. Barring a miraculous plethora of trade deals swamping number 10 from fictional star systems in our galaxies the UK is headed over the abyss and back into the loving embrace of the EU. 

From a scientific perspective the UK is heading for the roaring twenties. It would already have begun if it were not for the coronavirus lockdown.

It will not actually be down to Brexit, it will be down to the lifting of austerity. Governments are supposed to regulate demand in their economies to cause 2.5% growth in GDP year after year (for a developed nation). That means using fiscal policy to increase demand when its lower that 2.5%, and using it to lower demand when above.

As I have always maintained despite being a Tory, George Osbourne was a disaster of a chancellor who implemented the exact opposite fiscal policy that we should have done following the 2008 banking crises. His claim that `you dont spend your way out of recessions` should have seen him immediately sacked because thats exactly what you do in that kind of situation. I note Boris sacked Hammond for having a similar flawed approach to fiscal policy, which was the right move.

You dont pay of national debts during recessions by implementing austerity because that just lowers demand even further. causing a much deeper recession and longer after period of stagnation. National debts are paid off during booms when a government is supposed to cut demand anyway.

Recessions = Increase government spending to increase demand.

Booms = Cut government spending through austerity to reduce demand.

Due to the wrong fiscal policies being implemented then before coronavirus hit, the UK GDP was actually about 15% below where it should be. When austerity is lifted returning us to normal spending that 15% will quickly get added back. That will be a significant boom coming our way ontop of the coronavirus rebound. 

What UK businesses need to do following our exit from the EU (with or without a free trade deal) is use the coming boom to find their feet, to find their strengths, to adapt to the new trading environment using the coming good times. I find it strange and remarkable that all world events seem to be falling into place to allow Britain to succeed outside of the EU. Almost like God favours Britain.

But of course we know that God does, just look at our past.

I have always maintained that God created humans to be free and setup the universe to favour those countries which are most free. God doesnt want nations that restrict their peoples freedom under the guide of `progressive politics` or their own distorted versions of morality. The US is currently the most free nation on the planet, and God has favoured it by making it the most powerful. Us Brits still have a lot of freedom so we can rise higher too, but to continue back to the top then we need to dismantle liberal-socialism along with its `progressive politics`.

God wants free people in free nations, not policed people who are all totally compliant with the group-think of the left.

[RAyMO]

3 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

As I have always maintained despite being a Tory, George Osbourne was a disaster of a chancellor who implemented the exact opposite fiscal policy that we should have done following the 2008 banking crises. His claim that `you dont spend your way out of recessions` should have seen him immediately sacked because thats exactly what you do in that kind of situation. I note Boris sacked Hammond for having a similar flawed approach to fiscal policy, which was the right move.

One for the scarp book - we agree CM. 

 

if Boris spends as he says there is a real chance for real growth - irrespective of Brexit. 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by RAyMO

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

Freedom is the greatest possession a people can own.

You dont hand over your freedom because you are afraid of Germany, because you dont want them to invade and annex you again, because you are scared of being devastated in a major war. You stand and you fight for your freedom.

Us Brits have enjoyed and fought for our freedom for 1000 years and will continue to do so. We beat all comers too, we saw off Napoleon and Hitler along with various other despots that wanted to conquer and enslave us. 

We are beginning our return to greatness at the end of the year, soon a nice big chunk of the planet will be drinking tea and watching cricket once again! Now all we need to do is find us a leader to implement `Empire under the sun` lol.

Yeah well it seems even freedom has made way for pragmatism in that brexit standard bearer 'express'.

BREXIT talks between the UK and the EU remain on the brink of collapsing, with that in mind Express.co.uk is asking what key component of an agreement would you be willing to sacrifice in order to strike a trade deal.

As you can read even the most ardent, pro brexit rag is starting to panic and compromise the top of its agenda.

P.S. please enlighten us all on what side freedom was on 1000 years ago. LOL. 

[Unusual Tournament]

@Cookie Monster come back... i wanna know which side the British fought for freedom 1000 years ago.

[stevewinn]

10 hours ago, Captain Risky said:

@stevewinn it’s been over 4 years and nothing has happened. No agreements no nothing. I’m really confused how you or anyone else can draw confidence from that fact. People sense a mistake. It’s natural to have regrets. 

nothing has happened except, our membership of the EU has been repealed, and we have left the EU. how this Historic fact as escaped you is beyond me. The UK is negotiating FTAs, with numerous countries around the world. and has over 60 other trade agreements already agreed, We have regained our independent seat at the WTO, we have also regained our own tariff schedule. a source of revenue that will now go 100% to the UK treasury and not 80% to the EU.

The UK is now an independent sovereign state from the EU and is negotiating with the EU from that stand point. for the EU the rubber has hit the road They had 2 years negotiating with Theresa May & Olly Robbins, and the UK got a crash course in how NOT to negotiate with the EU. The UK Govt backed by a 80 majority is a different beast. The EU tried to bring about instability in internal British politics writing letters to individual and Groups of MP's begging for them to act and get extension after extension. only last month another letter sent, with the EU open to the idea of a 2 year extension. that idea was immediately struck down by the UK Govt. 

The EU is terrified of the UK being competitive. as we've seen with them wanting the UK to align and continue to accept in Laws.

The EU members cannot even agree how best to fill the massive black hole in their budget left by the UK. But looking at forecast the EU will need a bigger budget. IMF 2020.

Economic shrinkage.

• - 12.8% Spain
• - 12.8% Italy
• - 12.5% France
• - 10.0% Greece
• - 10.1% Ireland
• - 9.0% Croatia
• - 8.6% Latvia
• - 8.1% Lithuania
• - 8.0% Slovenia
• - 8.0% Portugal
• - 7.8% Germany
• *EU members not listed below -6% to -3%

 

 

2 hours ago, 'Walt' E. Kurtz said:

I feel the Brits might want back in the EU in a couple of years.... 

If the price to remain was unacceptable then the price to rejoin is wholly unacceptable. Lets just look at that price in detail.

• UK would have to hand over sovereignty to the EU.
• 60% of UK our Laws made by the EU.
• EU court to be supreme over British courts.
• UK fishing grounds handed back to the EU.
• UK to hand over £15Bn annually to the EU with less or no rebate.
• UK will have to join the Euro.
• UK will have to join open borders Schengen.
• UK unable to conduct its own trade deals.
• UK once again having to apply the EU external tariff so £7bn to £12bn handed over to the EU.
• Give all this away to have an annual £90bn trade deficit with the EU.

Good looking with trying to sell that to the British people.

 

 

 

[Unusual Tournament]

3 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

nothing has happened except, our membership of the EU has been repealed, and we have left the EU. how this Historic fact as escaped you is beyond me. The UK is negotiating FTAs, with numerous countries around the world. and has over 60 other trade agreements already agreed, We have regained our independent seat at the WTO, we have also regained our own tariff schedule. a source of revenue that will now go 100% to the UK treasury and not 80% to the EU.

The UK is now an independent sovereign state from the EU and is negotiating with the EU from that stand point. for the EU the rubber has hit the road They had 2 years negotiating with Theresa May & Olly Robbins, and the UK got a crash course in how NOT to negotiate with the EU. The UK Govt backed by a 80 majority is a different beast. The EU tried to bring about instability in internal British politics writing letters to individual and Groups of MP's begging for them to act and get extension after extension. only last month another letter sent, with the EU open to the idea of a 2 year extension. that idea was immediately struck down by the UK Govt. 

The EU is terrified of the UK being competitive. as we've seen with them wanting the UK to align and continue to accept in Laws.

The EU members cannot even agree how best to fill the massive black hole in their budget left by the UK. But looking at forecast the EU will need a bigger budget. IMF 2020.

Economic shrinkage.

• - 12.8% Spain
• - 12.8% Italy
• - 12.5% France
• - 10.0% Greece
• - 10.1% Ireland
• - 9.0% Croatia
• - 8.6% Latvia
• - 8.1% Lithuania
• - 8.0% Slovenia
• - 8.0% Portugal
• - 7.8% Germany
• *EU members not listed below -6% to -3%

 

 

If the price to remain was unacceptable then the price to rejoin is wholly unacceptable. Lets just look at that price in detail.

• UK would have to hand over sovereignty to the EU.
• 60% of UK our Laws made by the EU.
• EU court to be supreme over British courts.
• UK fishing grounds handed back to the EU.
• UK to hand over £15Bn annually to the EU with less or no rebate.
• UK will have to join the Euro.
• UK will have to join open borders Schengen.
• UK unable to conduct its own trade deals.
• UK once again having to apply the EU external tariff so £7bn to £12bn handed over to the EU.
• Give all this away to have an annual £90bn trade deficit with the EU.

Good looking with trying to sell that to the British people.

 

 

 

stevewinn the UK has been trading under EU rules and laws during the last 4 years. Really can't see any relevant point in your post. If you're saying that the UK has a great economy then i agree. If you're insinuating that it hasnt to do with the EU then i disagree. Lets see the figures after a NO Deal? I doubt the EU is gonna give the UK the best of both worlds. Tariff free access while dwindling access for EU producers. Its unheard of and silly to even consider. 

[Electric Scooter]

53 minutes ago, RAyMO said:

One for the scarp book - we agree CM. 

If Boris spends as he says there is a real chance for real growth - irrespective of Brexit. 

Assuming the coronavirus is dealt with by the end of the year then we are in for significant growth in 2021.

Early in 2021 there will still be some coronavirus rebound going on, but as it will just be a rebound back to where we would have been without it then I will ignore this. If one trades shares though (as I do) this will mean higher values, higher than what they were before coronavirus due to the rebound.

So Brexit on the own wont do much, it wont cause a recession or a boom, if it occurred on its own it would basically be business as normal for the UK. But we have the lifting of austerity which will add about 15% to our GDP as our GDP levels return to where they would be if they had been undergoing 2.5% growth year after year over the last decade.

So I predict from the start of next year to the end we will have 5% coronavirus rebound + 15% austerity rebound + 2.5% economic growth. Thats if austerity goes in one step. If it gets spread out overtime during the current Boris government then I predict:

2021: 10.0% GDP growth (of which 2.5% is regular growth)

2022: 7.0% GDP growth (of which 2.5% is regular growth)

2023: 6.5% GDP growth (of which 2.5% is regular growth)

2024: 6.5 GDP growth (of which 2.5% is regular growth)

Of course we dont know about unpredictable events like wars, new plagues, asteroid impacts, droughts, etc. UK businesses need to use the coming good times as a platform from which to build their success outside of the EU.

Edited June 29, 2020 by Cookie Monster

[stevewinn]

15 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

stevewinn the UK has been trading under EU rules and laws during the last 4 years. Really can't see any relevant point in your post. If you're saying that the UK has a great economy then i agree. If you're insinuating that it hasnt to do with the EU then i disagree. Lets see the figures after a NO Deal? I doubt the EU is gonna give the UK the best of both worlds. Tariff free access while dwindling access for EU producers. Its unheard of and silly to even consider. 

No deal, which is code for UK tariff schedule.

Under our independent tariff schedule trade with non-EU countries, the place where the UK does the majority of its trade. We have already simplified or abolished tariffs. this as gone from 45% under the EU tariff to 60% under the NEW UK tariff. so, a massive boost as the UK tailors its tariffs and trade in the sole interest of the UK. lets remember the UK has had a £90bn trade deficit with the EU. So, now when anyone buys a product from the EU the UK economy will benefit by the tariff duty levied on it. boosting the coffers for the UK treasury. as the UK strikes trade deals around the world, EU-UK trade will decline further. as is the case for the last decade, the ONS reported 57% none EU trade 2019/20.

I don't know what you expect to happen to the UK. under No-deal, THE WORST case scenario the UK would be effected by 0.53% of GDP. lets just repeat that, under NO deal, worst case scenario. UK GDP to be 0.53% lower. in the 2007/08 credit crisis it dropped by 8%, Yes were still here, we survived that, wow, Covid shut down 10% GDP. and we've survived that. wow. But somehow 0.53% is going to be the end of us. (by the way we spend more on foreign aid 0.7%)

 

 

[Unusual Tournament]

7 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

No deal, which is code for UK tariff schedule.

Under our independent tariff schedule trade with non-EU countries, the place where the UK does the majority of its trade. We have already simplified or abolished tariffs. this as gone from 45% under the EU tariff to 60% under the NEW UK tariff. so, a massive boost as the UK tailors its tariffs and trade in the sole interest of the UK. lets remember the UK has had a £90bn trade deficit with the EU. So, now when anyone buys a product from the EU the UK economy will benefit by the tariff duty levied on it. boosting the coffers for the UK treasury. as the UK strikes trade deals around the world, EU-UK trade will decline further. as is the case for the last decade, the ONS reported 57% none EU trade 2019/20.

I don't know what you expect to happen to the UK. under No-deal, THE WORST case scenario the UK would be effected by 0.53% of GDP. lets just repeat that, under NO deal, worst case scenario. UK GDP to be 0.53% lower. in the 2007/08 credit crisis it dropped by 8%, Yes were still here, we survived that, wow, Covid shut down 10% GDP. and we've survived that. wow. But somehow 0.53% is going to be the end of us. (by the way we spend more on foreign aid 0.7%)

I don’t think it will be as simple as pushing percentages around. Investment, agriculture, tourism, banking and manufacturing will all be directly effected. Tax will become more of a middle to low income burden as the government try’s to lure big businesses. 

[stevewinn]

12 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

I don’t think it will be as simple as pushing percentages around. Investment, agriculture, tourism, banking and manufacturing will all be directly effected. Tax will become more of a middle to low income burden as the government try’s to lure big businesses. 

Of course because you have no answer to it. as the facts and figures don't fit your belief. as for all the sectors you list, these policy areas NOW all fall under the gift of the UK Parliament. you once again highlight some of the many benefits of leaving the EU.

Edited June 29, 2020 by stevewinn

[Ozymandias]

1 hour ago, Captain Risky said:

Yeah well it seems even freedom has made way for pragmatism in that brexit standard bearer 'express'.

BREXIT talks between the UK and the EU remain on the brink of collapsing, with that in mind Express.co.uk is asking what key component of an agreement would you be willing to sacrifice in order to strike a trade deal.

As you can read even the most ardent, pro brexit rag is starting to panic and compromise the top of its agenda.

P.S. please enlighten us all on what side freedom was on 1000 years ago. LOL. 

The Express online survey? What a joke! This was conducted between 12 midnight and 8am this morning (Monday 29 June) while the rest of us slept soundly in bed. For a 'graveyard shift' poll it managed to get a creditable 2293 of its nocturnal readership to respond. They were asked what they would be willing to sacrifice in order to obtain a trade deal with the EU. Not surprisingly these Brexit supporters voted overwhelmingly to sacrifice nothing. The results as reported by Simon Osbourne are given as follows:

• 91% (2027 people) would make no sacrifice whatever to strike a deal.
• 4% (88 people) would be willing to yield the UK's fishing grounds ...
• 2% (88 people) would give up on the idea of a 'level playing field' ...
• 1% (52 people) would sacrifice security ...

I have not made any typos here. Not only is the quality of the journalism in the Express shamefully poor but so is their ability to make simple calculations and report on the outcome of a survey. 88 people cannot be both 4% and 2% of 2293. Even if we allow this to be a typo on the part of Simon Osbourne, the other two figures he provides are plainly incorrect. 2027 people do not represent 91% of the total number surveyed and 52 people cannot be the equivalent of 1%. But I doubt very much that any of the readership of the Express will notice, or care. These errors do not change the overall result of the poll but they call into question the integrity of the paper, its backroom staff, its reporters, and even its readership.

As Simon Osbourne wrote, Angela Merkel warned that the UK would have to 'live with the consequences' of Brexit. This kind of journalism is not a consequence of Brexit but rather Brexit is a consequence of this kind of journalism.