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Taliban paid to kill Coalition Soldiers

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RoofGardener
9 hours ago, and then said:

Sounds about right.  Waste of time to try to take the bit out of the mouths of those who keep posting anything and everything they can find relating to the BOM.  They've gone quite mental, IMO.  Sad, really.  

Umm.. right.. OK.. what is "BOM" ? 

I'm assuming it isn't the Bureau of Meteorology ? 

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Autochthon1990
On 6/27/2020 at 5:52 PM, Manwon Lender said:

Breaking news this morning, it is being reported that the Taliban are being paid bounties to kill Coalition Soldiers in Afghanistan. The Coalition consists of Soldiers from many countries see the link listed below. A Russian military unit secretly sought to offer rewards to Taliban-linked militants to incentivize them to hunt and kill coalition forces in Afghanistan as the Trump administration engaged in peace talks to end the nearly two-decade long war, U.S. intelligence officials have reportedly concluded. President Trump and other intelligence officials on the National Security Council reportedly discussed the matter in a meeting in late March, where they weighed a series of potential responses. However, no formal steps have been made, the Times reported. ( Note --- President Trump and Vice President Pence say they were not Briefed on this Situation

How the hell does the Commander and Chief NOT know his men are being hunted like dogs? Maybe its because the same people who were doing the hunting put him into office and he saw it as a decent trade to keep the gravy train running.

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Gromdor
3 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. wasn't he drafted ? 

No, he was from a military family and joined voluntarily before the US even got involved militarily with Vietnam.  

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Manwon Lender
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. wasn't he drafted ? 

No he wasn't drafted, McCain graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1958 and he received a commission in the United States Navy. He completed flight school in 1960 and became a naval pilot of ground attack aircraft he was assigned to A-1 Skyraider Squadron aboard the aircraft carriers USS Intrepid and the USS Enterprise  in the Caribbean and the Mediterranean Sea's. McCain requested a combat assignment and was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks. His Combat Duty  began when he was 30 years old in mid-1967, when Forrestal was assigned to a bombing campaign,  Operation Rolling Thunder, during the Vietnam War.

Like I said he didn't have to go to Vietnam, his father held Four Star Rank as an Admiral. If he was a coward with his father being an Admiral he would have never seen duty in Vietnam, but he requested the assignment.

So now it's my turn, what was the point of your question??

 

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Peter B
16 hours ago, and then said:

Sounds about right.  Waste of time to try to take the bit out of the mouths of those who keep posting anything and everything they can find relating to the BOM.  They've gone quite mental, IMO.  Sad, really.  

Sorry, 'BOM'?

Black Olives Matter?

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micahc
16 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. wasn't he drafted ? 

yeah they drafted him into the US Naval Academy, although educated people call that appointed to.  you trumpists love attacking real men don't you?

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Cookie Monster
On 6/28/2020 at 12:52 AM, Manwon Lender said:

@Captain Risky @and thenBreaking news this morning, it is being reported that the Taliban are being paid bounties to kill Coalition Soldiers in Afghanistan. The Coalition consists of Soldiers from many countries see the link listed below. A Russian military unit secretly sought to offer rewards to Taliban-linked militants to incentivize them to hunt and kill coalition forces in Afghanistan as the Trump administration engaged in peace talks to end the nearly two-decade long war, U.S. intelligence officials have reportedly concluded. President Trump and other intelligence officials on the National Security Council reportedly discussed the matter in a meeting in late March, where they weighed a series of potential responses. However, no formal steps have been made, the Times reported. ( Note --- President Trump and Vice President Pence say they were not Briefed on this Situation

Some officials theorized the efforts could be to destabilize the West or take revenge for pro-Syria forces being killed when advancing on an American outpost in 2018, or keep the U.S. tied up in a war in Afghanistan by thwarting peace talks, according to the Times. The Kremlin has not officially commented on the reports, saying that they will do so if they see the U.S. make accusations. The Department of Defense and CIA declined to comment on the Times story. NSC and the State Department also declined to comment. The officials described the intelligence to the Times as a “closely held secret,” but the small group with knowledge of the covert attack expanded this week after the British government, which was also targeted, was briefed on the matter.

The officials also told the Times they are unclear how high up orders went in the Russian government, but said it appears to be part of Russia’s military intelligence agency, the G.R.U., known as Unit 29155.This unit reportedly is filled with highly experienced military officials, some dating back to the Soviet Union days, and their actions tend to be more violent than actions like cyberattacks. The unit is believed to be behind the poisoning of Sergei Skripal, a former G.R.U. officer who defected. Skripal and his daughter were poisoned with a nerve agent in England in 2018. 

According to NATO, there are 15,937 Coalition Soldiers in Afghanistan  as of June 2020, of which 8,000 are American Soldiers, 1300 are German Soldiers, 950 are UK Soldiers, along with Soldiers from many other Nations.

Below is the Breaking News outlining Russia's involvement in putting bounties on the head of Coalition Soldiers in Afghanistan:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/27/russia-offered-bounty-to-kill-uk-soldiers

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/06/report-russia-paid-taliban-bounties-for-killing-us-troops/

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/504770-russian-intelligence-unit-offered-bounties-for-killing-coalition

Here is a link that identifies the Coalition forces currently in Afghanistan as of June 2020 according to NATO:

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2020/6/pdf/2020-06-RSM-Placemat.pdf

Peace

Putting aside Trump, the US intelligence community hasn`t confirmed this.

This is hearsay at the moment.

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Manwon Lender
1 minute ago, Cookie Monster said:

Putting aside Trump, the US intelligence community hasn`t confirmed this.

This is hearsay at the moment.

The only reason it hasn't been confirmed publicly, is the President is blocking it from coming out. He knows if it does it will only make him look worst than he already does, with everything else that is currently happening in the United States. But, I have a very strong feeling that the truth concerning this is going to be leaked, in the near future, very little of importance that the President attempts to hide stays hidden. Because even in the White House and especially in the Pentagon, he doesnt have the support he thinks he does, when the retired Generals started speaking out against him that ruined his reputation in the Pentagon.

One thing many people do not understand, is that our military sticks together, and takes care of each other even after retirement, so in unspoken reality Trumps name is a dirty word to our senior military leaders of America. While they may follow legal orders from him, his dishonorable actions will never allow them to feel to, or fully support him, in fact in situations like this, they really don't support him at all. The only reason they can continue to do their jobs is because they can justify their feelings by supporting the Office of the President without thinking about the man.:yes: This how soldiers since the beginning of our history as a Nation, have handled situations where we had inadequate leaders in positions of authority/:yes: 

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RoofGardener
20 hours ago, Gromdor said:

No, he was from a military family and joined voluntarily before the US even got involved militarily with Vietnam.  

Ooooh right.. yes.. he was a fighter/bomber pilot in Rolling Thunder, until he was shot down and captured. Thanks for the correction. 

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Manwon Lender
11 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Ooooh right.. yes.. he was a fighter/bomber pilot in Rolling Thunder, until he was shot down and captured. Thanks for the correction. 

Yes he was and he certainly is far more honorable than some faceless voice on an internet forum who attacks the validity of American Disabled Veterans, who served their country honorably under the worst of conditions any human could be exposed too. Your insults to his honor and patriotism only prove your lack of integrity, but even before you did this it was certainly obvious, so I guess it really isn't a surprise!!:td:  

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Manwon Lender
18 hours ago, micahc said:

yeah they drafted him into the US Naval Academy, although educated people call that appointed to.  you trumpists love attacking real men don't you?

No he wasn't drafted, he joined the Navy before Vietnam even started, and after the war started he volunteered for service in Vietnam, see my post #129 it tells the entire story. 

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micahc
3 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

No he wasn't drafted, he joined the Navy before Vietnam even started, and after the war started he volunteered for service in Vietnam, see my post #129 it tells the entire story. 

i know he wasn't drafted. i was being sarcastic to that other poster.  

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and then
On 7/13/2020 at 11:57 AM, RoofGardener said:

Umm.. right.. OK.. what is "BOM" ? 

I'm assuming it isn't the Bureau of Meteorology ? 

Why... it's the "Bad Orange Man"  

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and then
16 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Ooooh right.. yes.. he was a fighter/bomber pilot in Rolling Thunder, until he was shot down and captured. Thanks for the correction. 

His daddy was an admiral.  In fact, the only thing McCain did that I can truly respect him for is his refusal to be released early due to his father's importance.

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