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The Problem of 'Anti-Racism'

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., recently declared from the well of the Senate: "Being race-conscious is not enough. It never was. We must be anti-racists." 

"Ibram X. Kendi, author of "How to Be An Antiracist," provides an answer: Racism is no longer to be defined as the belief that someone is inferior based on race. Instead, racism is to be defined as the belief that any group differences can be attributed to anything other than racism . Thus, any system that ends with different outcomes must be racist. Indeed, Kendi contends, "Racism itself is institutional, structural, and systemic."

To be anti-racist means to tear down these systems. Any obstacle in the pursuit of equality of outcome must be torn down, assumed to be a product of discrimination. Basic decency, then, means that we must oppose even institutions that have been considered hallmarks of freedom. Those institutions, after all, have exacerbated inequalities, or at least failed to rectify those inequalities"

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0720/shapiro070120.php3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS5_EQgbuLc

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Desertrat56

What Mother Teresa said could be applied to any anti-... movement.

“I was once asked why I don't participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I'll be there.”
Mother Teresa
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Tatetopa
2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Everyone should have equality of opportunity, which is the correct goal,  but will not have equality of outcome because everyone is different.

That would be freedom and justice for all in my book.

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OverSword
4 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

That would be freedom and justice for all in my book.

But is racism in the book of the author :rolleyes:

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Now the woke army has targeted corporations. Corporations are, by nature, risk-averse; they seek merely profit and lack of controversy. The hard left has targeted them as the weakest link in the chain of free speech: If corporations can be bullied into pulling their money from social media networks, those social media networks can be bullied into restricting their free-speech cultures. Remove advertising bucks from Instagram and watch as Instagram censors those the woke want censored.

We've see this happen perpetrated by the religious right as well but on a lesser and more direct target.  Remember the boycott on advertisers for Married with Children?

 

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and then
9 minutes ago, OverSword said:

We've see this happen perpetrated by the religious right as well but on a lesser and more direct target.  Remember the boycott on advertisers for Married with Children?

 

This is plainly the next step in their goal to demand submission before their little god of Marxism.  The goal seem to be to push until conflict is inevitable.  It isn't enough until those who disagree with them in any way are forced to kneel.  Guess how this ends?  

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docyabut2
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its sad there is no racism now today of which the BLM is so protesting the kill of blacks, its just law and order

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Desertrat56
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16 minutes ago, OverSword said:

We've see this happen perpetrated by the religious right as well but on a lesser and more direct target.  Remember the boycott on advertisers for Married with Children?

 

One of my favorite shows got canceled by ABC in the middle of the first season because advertisers quit buying space for that show.  It wasn't even controversial, just a fun sci fi conspiracy story.  So, what organization convinced the advertisers to drop it?  (the show was Defying Gravity)  CBC (Canadian Broadcast Company) showed all 13 episodes, but ABC (American Broadcast Company - aka Disney) dropped it after the 8th episode.

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OverSword
1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said:

One of my favorite shows got canceled by ABC in the middle of the first season because advertisers quit buying space for that show.  It wasn't even controversial, just a fun sci fi conspiracy story.  So, what organization convinced the advertisers to drop it?  (the show was Defying Gravity)  CBC (Canadian Broadcast Company) showed all 13 episodes, but ABC (American Broadcast Company - aka Disney) dropped it after the 8th episode.

Are you sure that was because of ads being pulled?  Also maybe I should have said the effort to get Married with Children off the air failed because consumers countered the threat of the ass holes and said take that show off the air and I will switch to Pepsi.

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Desertrat56
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4 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Are you sure that was because of ads being pulled?  Also maybe I should have said the effort to get Married with Children off the air failed because consumers countered the threat of the ass holes and said take that show off the air and I will switch to Pepsi.

Yes, because my cousin was a writer on that show so I was able to ask someone who knew.  They had just finished filming the 13th episode when they were told no more would be filmed. 

I remember the Married With Children thing.  I didn't like that show much but it was not as bad as some others that got 11 seasons.

Something similar happened when NBC was going to pull Star Trek after 2 seasons, except it was a letter writing campaign that inundated the studio so they got 3 more seasons.  (I think, or was it more that).  Too bad Paramount did not understand the whole point of that show.  Now the closest thing I have seen to it recently is the Seth McFarland show (forgot the name).

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Desertrat56
Just now, docyabut2 said:

Elizabeth Warren is claimed she was a Indian to protest  and she`s not  a  Indian

She's just a senile old lady who should have retired 10 years ago.

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docyabut2
9 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

She's just a senile old lady who should have retired 10 years ago.

she is a racist

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Desertrat56
4 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

she is a racist

Yes, though when she was younger she knew how to keep her mouth shut, now she says what people tell her to say.

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Tatetopa
1 hour ago, OverSword said:

But is racism in the book of the author 

Everybody has a right to write their own book.  We have a right to read it or not ,agree with it or not..  Everybody has an opinion including all of us.

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Piney
3 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

Elizabeth Warren is claimed she was a Indian to protest  and she`s not  a  Indian in her genealogy .she is a racist

:nw:

2 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

she is a racist

You go Old Mother!!! 

:nw:

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Big Jim
5 hours ago, WVK said:

Racism is no longer to be defined as the belief that someone is inferior based on race. Instead, racism is to be defined as the belief that any group differences can be attributed to anything other than racism . Thus, any system that ends with different outcomes must be racist. Indeed, Kendi contends, "Racism itself is institutional, structural, and systemic."

This is what you do when the original problem has been solved or at least significantly diminished.  MLK had legitimate things to protest and the wisdom to do it in a proper and effective way.  The problem for people today who have a passion to protest is that all the big issues are gone.  So the issues keep getting smaller (pancake mix) and smaller (instant rice) but the outrage stays the same.  To keep your career alive you redefine what it is you're trying to do.  

The free market system will always produce different outcomes.  Only socialism and communism propose to make everyone equally miserable and call it fairness.  Each if us on this forum, and thousands more, have had the same basic opportunities as Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Marc Cuban and yes, even Donald Trump.  Can any of us truthfully say that the thing that separates us is racism or the proverbial unfairness of the world?  That we would be where they are if only we weren't held back by the system?  That what this book seems to offer.  " Any system that ends with different outcomes must be racist" is a premade, catch-all excuse for every black person's lack of excellence.  White people will continue to fail on their own.

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I believe many of the disproportionate outcomes in society involve racial genetics that nobody can be blamed for. I am kind of a Bell Curve type scientific racist on these issues. I also believe in fairness, equality and brotherly love for all and do not find a contradiction in any of my positions.

I can certainly not be called an anti-racist and proud not to be bullied by political correctness pressure. I'll do my own thinking, thank you.

 

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Piney
3 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I believe many of the disproportionate outcomes in society involve racial genetics that nobody can be blamed for.

Stupid people having more kids has nothing to do with "race", which doesn't even exist in genetics. They are called Haplogroups and have nothing to do with skin color or location. 

4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I believe many of the disproportionate outcomes in society involve racial genetics that nobody can be blamed for. I am kind of a Bell Curve type scientific racist on these issues. I also believe in fairness, equality and brotherly love for all and do not find a contradiction in any of my positions.

@cormac mac airt  Your the genetics guy. Have fun!  :yes:

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papageorge1
Just now, Piney said:

Stupid people having more kids has nothing to do with "race", which doesn't even exist in genetics. They are called Haplogroups and have nothing to do with skin color or location. 

Ethnic genetic differences exist. Skin color is just one thing affected by such differences. The word 'race' is a perhaps a social construct but it is the word we are given to use here by the OP.

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Piney
3 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Ethnic genetic differences exist. Skin color is just one thing affected by such differences. 

But they have nothing to do with intelligence. 

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papageorge1
1 minute ago, Piney said:

But they have nothing to do with intelligence. 

I disagree. Brain differences in size and proportions of brain areas exist.

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Piney
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Just now, papageorge1 said:

I disagree. Brain differences in size and proportions of brain areas exist.

Which has nothing to do with ethnicity and it's about the neuron count, not size. 

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