Trump vs Biden

[Setton]

4 minutes ago, skliss said:

Don't count your chickens.....

I've literally watched it live on TV twice...

[bmk1245]

1 hour ago, Setton said:

I've literally watched it live on TV twice...

Funniest thing was when Joe wiped the floor with George...

[RoofGardener]

Could somebody confirm something for me ? 

Kamala Harris has not done a press conference since the Harris/Pence debate ? 

[Tatetopa]

47 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Could somebody confirm something for me ? 

Kamala Harris has not done a press conference since the Harris/Pence debate ? 

Does she need to?  Dems have more money than Republicans and they are flooding media with campaign commercials.  If Joe and Kamala sit back and comment on Trump Administration fumbles, wave at people and be dignified and calm, the election is Trump's to lose.

Both trading more on emotion than fact.  One on fear, one on the hope of normalcy and unity.

President Trump hits with his law and order message but dismisses covid as inconsequential.  People will decide how to respond to that based what they fear most. 

[TigerBright19]

Imagine 4 more years of Trump's Tweets.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2020 by TigerBright19

[+OverSword]

 

 Such great candidates to choose from.

 

Edited October 26, 2020 by OverSword

[+Desertrat56]

8 minutes ago, OverSword said:

 

 Such great candidates to choose from.

 

You can choose to vote for the third party and ignore the antics and foibles of the Democratic & republican candidates.

[skliss]

6 minutes ago, OverSword said:

 

 Such great candidates to choose from.

 

They're trying to spin it now that he was talking to George Lopez....which he clearly wasn't or Jill wouldn't have been whispering "Trump". Looked like something she was familiar with doing.

[+OverSword]

2 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

You can choose to vote for the third party and ignore the antics and foibles of the Democratic & republican candidates.

That's what I do.  But I don't ignore the foibles, I weep for them.

[+OverSword]

2 minutes ago, skliss said:

They're trying to spin it now that he was talking to George Lopez....which he clearly wasn't or Jill wouldn't have been whispering "Trump". Looked like something she was familiar with doing.

Probably why she was sitting there.

[+and-then]

6 hours ago, skliss said:

Don't count your chickens.....

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-rallies-show-significant-first-time-voter-non-republican-turnout_3553450.html

The numbers just aren't bearing out the optimism of the Left.  Just as the media tried to cover for the physical health deficits of HRC, they are trying to hide Joe's dementia and the people just aren't buying it.  If those voting Democrat regardless because they hate the BOM were honest, we'd see MUCH different polls.  

[ian hacktorp]

Seeing many, many stories, like this one, about curious Dems who see that Trump rallies are positive, optimistic, and generally full of smiling people...while Dem "rallies" are angry, dark, poorly attended, and often destructive.  Anyone who believes the polls saying Biden is "winning", is truly an idiot:

 

[the13bats]

34 minutes ago, ian hacktorp said:

Seeing many, many stories, like this one, about curious Dems who see that Trump rallies are positive, optimistic, and generally full of smiling people...while Dem "rallies" are angry, dark, poorly attended, and often destructive.  Anyone who believes the polls saying Biden is "winning", is truly an idiot:

 

Guess what ian, weekend pasted its monday and your hardcore prediction that biden would drop out by end of week was yet another grossly incompatant epic failure. I will be sure to keep reminded you of you being wrong.

[ian hacktorp]

49 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Guess what ian, weekend pasted its monday and your hardcore prediction that biden would drop out by end of week was yet another grossly incompatant epic failure. I will be sure to keep reminded you of you being wrong.

Haha...Biden got smoked over the weekend and is now as done as a burnt weenie.

I was right.

[DarkHunter]

Figured this would be interesting for anyone who cares.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/07/poll-more-than-60-of-democrats-plan-to-vote-early-vs-less-than-30-of-republicans/amp/

That is a link to an article from October 7 but in the article it talks about who is likely to do early voting compared to in person voting.  According to the poll 62% of Democrats said they plan to vote early/vote by mail or have already voted early.  For Republicans only 28% said they plan to vote early/vote by mail or have already voted early.

That is a rather massive difference in voting but oddly that difference isnt showing up in the early voting recorded so far.

Using Target early target smart to see who has done early voting so far, especially in the battleground states should be massively concerning to the Democrats.

https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/

Using those numbers of votes received so far, I am pointing out that this is just who voted and not who was voted for, the results are interesting.

Arizona 

• Democrats - 727,690
• Republicans - 662,151
• Independents - 88,785

Florida

• Democrats - 2,703,209
• Republicans - 2,524,687
• Independents - 378,400

Georgia

• Democrats - 1,174,046
• Republicans - 1,312,994
• Independents - 181,198

Iowa

• Democrats - 350,135
• Republicans - 287,881
• Independents - 79,102

Michigan

• Democrats - 868,271
• Republicans - 768,917
• Independents - 384,619

Minnesota 

• Democrats - 574,062
• Republicans - 364,120
• Independents - 274,541

Nevada 

• Democrats - 152,229
• Republicans - 189,935
• Independents - 18,584

North Carolina

• Democrats - 1,520,648
• Republicans - 1,347,212
• Independents - 190,719

Ohio

• Democrats - 917,080
• Republicans - 1,009,485
• Independents - 274,946

Pennsylvania 

• Democrats - 925,638
• Republicans - 391,722
• Independents - 104,255

Texas

• Democrats - 2,709,370
• Republicans - 3,627,451
• Independents - 647,268

Wisconsin 

• Democrats - 524,502
• Republicans - 476,399
• Independents - 293,759

Nationally

• Democrats - 27,439,525
• Republicans - 22,657,000
• Independents - 5,487,673

Out of all of those battleground states only Pennsylvania is performing as one would expect from the polling of 62% of Democrats planning or already voted early and only 28% of Republicans planning or already voted early.  

There are only really three explanations for this data so far and they are either the mainstream media's polls on the presidential election are wrong, the polling/prediction of most Democrats voting early and most Republicans voting in person is wrong, or everything is wrong in which case none of this matters.  With the current super high level of political polarization going on there simply wont be a lot of Republicans voting for Biden or Democrats voting for Trump so hoping for that to avoid/solve the problem with the data seems unlikely.

If one assumes the polling/prediction of Democrat and Republican voting methods is wrong then there is cause for some concern but not a ton but given how much the Democrats stressed voting early while the Republicans stressed voting in person on election day that seems unlikely.

If one assumes the mainstream media polls are wrong, which they were wrong in 2016, then this is a massive cause for alarm.  If one assumes that approximately 60% of Democrats who vote will vote early compared to only 30% of Republicans who vote will vote early that this will be a massive blowout with Trump winning essentially all of those states except for maybe Pennsylvania.

If one assumes everything is wrong then who knows what will happen.

This data is incomplete so far as there is still a good bit of time before the election for early votes to arrive and while more people have voted early this election then any other it's still only at about 40% of the votes cast in 2016.  But predicting a Biden blowout might be a bit too premature and there really should be some concern among the Democratic party.

[acidhead]

For Trump

 

[the13bats]

55 minutes ago, acidhead said:

For Trump

 

Even Jurassic joe biden saying "vote" isnt gonna help deranged don now...

[+DieChecker]

On 10/25/2020 at 6:05 AM, Setton said:

As would the backpedaling of the right.

So is it your belief that all of a sudden. Conservatives would start calling for following the popular vote? I suppose there can be a first time fir everything.

[+DieChecker]

1 hour ago, acidhead said:

For Trump

 

I wonder if it was teleprompted to him...

[Duke Wellington]

Neutral polls have Trump ahead on 54%

[+DieChecker]

5 hours ago, and then said:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-rallies-show-significant-first-time-voter-non-republican-turnout_3553450.html

The numbers just aren't bearing out the optimism of the Left.  Just as the media tried to cover for the physical health deficits of HRC, they are trying to hide Joe's dementia and the people just aren't buying it.  If those voting Democrat regardless because they hate the BOM were honest, we'd see MUCH different polls.  

I heard Joe called Trump "George" twice on camera, while his wife hissed "Donald.. Donald..." next to him.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/2020-u-s-presidential-election-joe-biden-donald-trump-george-w-bush

Quote

And, here is the quote:

“Not because I’m running, but because who I’m running against, this is the most consequential election in a long, long, long time,” Biden said. “And the character of the country in my view is literally on the ballot. What kind of country we’re gonna be?

“Four more years of George, er, George, er, he — we’re going to find ourselves in a position where, if Trump gets elected, we’re going to be in a different world,” he corrected himself.

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by DieChecker

[+DieChecker]

5 hours ago, skliss said:

They're trying to spin it now that he was talking to George Lopez....which he clearly wasn't or Jill wouldn't have been whispering "Trump". Looked like something she was familiar with doing.

yeah... Thats a waste of time. He clearly was lost on who he was talking about.

[+Hammerclaw]

5 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I heard Joe called Trump "George" twice on camera, while his wife hissed "Donald.. Donald..." next to him.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/2020-u-s-presidential-election-joe-biden-donald-trump-george-w-bush

 

The biggest coverup in political history is happening, right before our eyes.

 

[the13bats]

10 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I heard Joe called Trump "George" twice on camera, while his wife hissed "Donald.. Donald..." next to him.

 

I think it goes with aging who could forget "covfefe"?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-embarrasing-gaffes-speeches-twitter-a9659916.html

Edited October 27, 2020 by the13bats

[+DieChecker]

10 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Could somebody confirm something for me ? 

Kamala Harris has not done a press conference since the Harris/Pence debate ? 

Probably too busy protesting fracking... Or, maybe in self imposed exile since she was powerless to prevent Trump from installing a new Supreme Court Justice.