Dustyrose33 Posted July 14, 2020 #1 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I read an article today about one of the many vaccines being tested and one of them is entering its final testing phase. Dr. Fauci seems to be pleased and said just as they had hoped the vaccine appeared to increase the immune response. This is great news!. If the vaccine is used it will require two shots one month apart. The people doing the trials reported some side effects similar with the Flu vaccine, but only lasted a day or two. I'm wondering if the vaccines will be administered on a first-come, first-served basis like the Flu vaccine is or some other way. I feel Dr. Fauci is great if he can get an effective vaccine out by early next year. Probably the vaccine will take 2 to 3 weeks to reach peak level, like the Flu vaccine. If this works, there is hope to get over this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 14, 2020 #2 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @Dustyrose33 do you have a link? I looked for this story and could find nothing after June 23rd when he talked to Congress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted July 14, 2020 #3 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I might have posted the information in the medical thread. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolltide Posted July 14, 2020 #4 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted July 14, 2020 #5 Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: @Dustyrose33 do you have a link? I looked for this story and could find nothing after June 23rd when he talked to Congress. Here's one. The first vaccine made in the US is ready for it's final test on 30,000 people. https://abc7ny.com/health/1st-covid-19-vaccine-tested-in-us-poised-for-final-testing/6317291/?fbclid=IwAR1-vLPF1hX4HQanAiKAPBBWVr0WGH4yZ4sKP28wKGsSHwlP9f5mGfPP9iw 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted July 14, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: @Dustyrose33 do you have a link? I looked for this story and could find nothing after June 23rd when he talked to Congress. I'll see what I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted July 14, 2020 Author #7 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, susieice said: Here's one. The first vaccine made in the US is ready for it's final test on 30,000 people. https://abc7ny.com/health/1st-covid-19-vaccine-tested-in-us-poised-for-final-testing/6317291/?fbclid=IwAR1-vLPF1hX4HQanAiKAPBBWVr0WGH4yZ4sKP28wKGsSHwlP9f5mGfPP9iw Ok, glad you found one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 14, 2020 #8 Share Posted July 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dustyrose33 said: I read an article today about one of the many vaccines being tested and one of them is entering its final testing phase. Dr. Fauci seems to be pleased and said just as they had hoped the vaccine appeared to increase the immune response. This is great news!. If the vaccine is used it will require two shots one month apart. The people doing the trials reported some side effects similar with the Flu vaccine, but only lasted a day or two. I'm wondering if the vaccines will be administered on a first-come, first-served basis like the Flu vaccine is or some other way. I feel Dr. Fauci is great if he can get an effective vaccine out by early next year. Probably the vaccine will take 2 to 3 weeks to reach peak level, like the Flu vaccine. If this works, there is hope to get over this. Hey Dusty, this looks like it going to be a good thread, thanks for starting it. Take Care 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted July 14, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Manwon Lender said: Hey Dusty, this looks like it going to be a good thread, thanks for starting it. Take Care Thanks, and welcome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted July 14, 2020 #10 Share Posted July 14, 2020 These vaccines go through a series of tests of ever larger number of subjects. The small tests are there to test safety and efficacy. Typically, tests are done in vitro and in animals before testing on humans. Once it appears to be safe and it elicits the response that is expected trials move onto larger numbers of subjects. The large numbers are needed because it is unethical to deliberately expose someone to a disease. Through large numbers some people are expected to be exposed. An epidemic is required to test a vaccine. Zika vaccines were developed but never tested because the epidemics went away. The vaccines are in storage in case zika reemerges as a threat. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustyrose33 Posted July 14, 2020 Author #11 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, stereologist said: These vaccines go through a series of tests of ever larger number of subjects. The small tests are there to test safety and efficacy. Typically, tests are done in vitro and in animals before testing on humans. Once it appears to be safe and it elicits the response that is expected trials move onto larger numbers of subjects. The large numbers are needed because it is unethical to deliberately expose someone to a disease. Through large numbers some people are expected to be exposed. An epidemic is required to test a vaccine. Zika vaccines were developed but never tested because the epidemics went away. The vaccines are in storage in case zika reemerges as a threat. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/moderna-s-covid-19-vaccine-moves-to-bigger-study/ar-BB16JEoR?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds The vaccine has moved to a bigger study. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted July 15, 2020 #12 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Please do try and keep a lookout at what CDC says from virologist experts and epidemiology experts. Not being a wet blanket but claims just from big "pharma Inc" has that reputation of not being entirely upfront about what it really means when they say what they meant. The timing now just when Trump jettisoned WHO is what worries many... ~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted July 15, 2020 #13 Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 hours ago, stereologist said: These vaccines go through a series of tests of ever larger number of subjects. The small tests are there to test safety and efficacy. Typically, tests are done in vitro and in animals before testing on humans. Once it appears to be safe and it elicits the response that is expected trials move onto larger numbers of subjects. The large numbers are needed because it is unethical to deliberately expose someone to a disease. Through large numbers some people are expected to be exposed. An epidemic is required to test a vaccine. Zika vaccines were developed but never tested because the epidemics went away. The vaccines are in storage in case zika reemerges as a threat. They will still need to watch how long the antibodies these people build up will last in the body. There are a lot of studies that show they begin to decrease by three months. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-new-uk-study-shows-antibodies-fade-after-three-weeks-2020-7?fbclid=IwAR3hLWcQWMOwOPu9ECRhWhM0Xa-mKTVdZ-lolhbUJTXYbi_e8LLVtS5FJ8I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted July 15, 2020 #14 Share Posted July 15, 2020 https://abc7ny.com/6317556/?ex_cid=TA_WABC_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0ZTVkRUjnOpu-gw6UWhR7lnE0HboNu7UP4HbbaaKs_dAx85lyTUlkkKdM The Secretary of Health and Human Services visited Chicago Tuesday to see how doctors and nurses in the city have handled the COVID-19 crisis. Secretary Alex Azar said he was optimistic that a vaccine for the virus could be available as soon as this fall.On Tuesday, researchers with Moderna and the National Institutes Of Health announced that an experimental vaccine successfully produced antibodies in all 45 patients involved in testing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted July 15, 2020 #15 Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 hours ago, susieice said: They will still need to watch how long the antibodies these people build up will last in the body. There are a lot of studies that show they begin to decrease by three months. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-new-uk-study-shows-antibodies-fade-after-three-weeks-2020-7?fbclid=IwAR3hLWcQWMOwOPu9ECRhWhM0Xa-mKTVdZ-lolhbUJTXYbi_e8LLVtS5FJ8I That is a concern with all coronavirus issues. All of the treatments appear to be short lived, maybe a year at most. One of the links I posted discusses that very issue and not just with coronavirus work, but mRNA treatments in general and this virus is an RNA virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted July 15, 2020 #16 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Here is the article on the Moderna vaccine. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483?query=featured_home One of the issues was urticaria. https://www.worldallergy.org/education-and-programs/education/allergic-disease-resource-center/professionals/urticaria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 15, 2020 #17 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, stereologist said: Here is the article on the Moderna vaccine. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483?query=featured_home One of the issues was urticaria. https://www.worldallergy.org/education-and-programs/education/allergic-disease-resource-center/professionals/urticaria Are they asking for volunteers for the larger test or do they have a different way of choosing participants in the study? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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