Nobu Posted July 24, 2020 #1 Share Posted July 24, 2020 https://video.foxnews.com/v/6174546210001#sp=show-clips tomorrow may change a lot of things. or people. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekTruth Posted July 24, 2020 #2 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'll believe it when I see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrLzs Posted July 24, 2020 Popular Post #3 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) But probably not. This claptrap involves Luis Elizondo (surprise!!!) Leslie Kean (double surprise!!!!!) and the claims about alien-craft-bits comes from a former Richard Bigelow employee by the name of Eric Davis, who promotes all sorts of amazing (but purely theoretical) propulsion systems and is a fan of the Skinwalker ranch, and also believes Uri Geller has genuine powers......... Any questions? Oh, and Eric also says he can't divulge any details about any alien stuff, due to him having signed lots of NDA's.... Of course, eric sweetie, we understand totally... I'll be delighted to be proven wrong, but would suggest that UFO=alienz fanatics restrain your enthusiasm and be prepared for the usual letdown. Edited July 24, 2020 by ChrLzs 16 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 24, 2020 #4 Share Posted July 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Nobu said: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6174546210001#sp=show-clips tomorrow may change a lot of things. or people. Poor Tucker did not like reporting that item at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted July 24, 2020 #5 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Dr. Eric W. Davis, PhD. (Astrophysics, University of Arizona, 1991) seems to be interested in a number of 'cutting edge' areas of science. He has remarked about the alleged recovered materials from UAPs, reporting that 'examination of the materials had so far failed to determine the source'. He stated that 'we couldn't make it ourselves'. When an actual physicist talks like that, it might be a good idea to take some notice. I await news of whatever information the Pentagon's UFO Unit is preparing to release, with considerable interest. Edited July 24, 2020 by bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted July 24, 2020 #6 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, bison said: When an actual physicist talks like that, it might be a good idea to take some notice it might be a good idea for you- i'm sure Dr. Eric W. Davis, PhD has enough 'taking notice' == book sales etc.... not a good idea for me though, & many others no doubt .. but there you go, what do we know!? eeer actually nothing, just like you with regards to facts Edited July 24, 2020 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekTruth Posted July 24, 2020 #7 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Dejarma said: it might be a good idea for you- i'm sure Dr. Eric W. Davis, PhD has enough 'taking notice' == book sales etc.... not a good idea for me though, & many others no doubt .. but there you go, what do we know!? eeer actually nothing, just like you with regards to facts You have it all figured out, evidently. I, for one, would love to see any evidence that may be presented. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 24, 2020 #8 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, bison said: Dr. Eric W. Davis, PhD. (Astrophysics, University of Arizona, 1991) seems to be interested in a number of 'cutting edge' areas of science. He has remarked about the alleged recovered materials from UAPs, reporting that 'examination of the materials had so far failed to determine the source'. He stated that 'we couldn't make it ourselves'. When an actual physicist talks like that, it might be a good idea to take some notice. I await news of whatever information the Pentagon's UFO Unit is preparing to release, with considerable interest. Whenever an individual makes sweeping statements like that, you should be always be skeptical. I'll never forget back in 1989 when two electrochemists with PhDs declared to the world that nuclear fusion was the only explanation for the results of an experiment they performed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted July 24, 2020 #9 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Granted, even scientists make mistakes, as we all do. This general fact tells us nothing, though, about the validity of Dr. Davis conclusions, in particular. Natural caution about such a large claim, and its implications, is precisely why I hope to see something both substantive, and substantiating of Dr. Davis' remarks, in whatever information the Pentagon group is preparing to release. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted July 24, 2020 #10 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, SeekTruth said: You have it all figured out, evidently. I, for one, would love to see any evidence that may be presented. no i do not have it all figured out.. it's just me putting forward an opinion using the power of history..i too would love to see any evidence that may be presented, but most know there will be none worth anything. do you have anything else to say? just out of interest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 24, 2020 #11 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Since you can't believe most of what is reported by Fox, I doubt it will change anything at all. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison Posted July 24, 2020 #12 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I don't frequent Fox News. Read about Dr. Davis' conclusions, and the expected Pentagon release of UAP information, in the New York Times. Please see the link below: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html?searchResultPosition=2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 24, 2020 #13 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 hours ago, bison said: Dr. Eric W. Davis, PhD. (Astrophysics, University of Arizona, 1991) seems to be interested in a number of 'cutting edge' areas of science. He has remarked about the alleged recovered materials from UAPs, reporting that 'examination of the materials had so far failed to determine the source'. He stated that 'we couldn't make it ourselves'. When an actual physicist talks like that, it might be a good idea to take some notice. I await news of whatever information the Pentagon's UFO Unit is preparing to release. I think I will just quote chrLzs on this one... I'll be delighted to be proven wrong, but would suggest that UFO=alienz fanatics restrain your enthusiasm and be prepared for the usual letdown. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 24, 2020 #14 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Scudbuster said: After reading the personal testimonies of many military and civilian witnesses in the book "Witness to Roswell" by Thomas Carey and Don Schmitt, I have zero doubt whether we have been visited - and I'd certainly look forward to admittance of that fact by our government - finally. So, all it takes for you to believe in something as extraordinary as ET visitation is testimony... without any supporting evidence, no peer review, at all?? That is so beyond gullible its almost adorable. Edited July 24, 2020 by Hazzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khol Posted July 24, 2020 #15 Share Posted July 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hazzard said: restrain your enthusiasm enthusiasm check restraining it check "Saying" they have tangible evidence is one thing....showing and proving it is quite another 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 24, 2020 #16 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, khol said: enthusiasm check restraining it check "Saying" they have tangible evidence is one thing....showing and proving it is quite another That has always been the thing over the 30 years I have been doing this. Full Disclosure is always just around the corner, any day now... and it always stays there. Im starting to think that these are all charlatans who want to suck money from the gullible believers, have their day in the spotlights... and that there is nothing to disclose at all? Edited July 24, 2020 by Hazzard 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khol Posted July 24, 2020 #17 Share Posted July 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Hazzard said: and that there is nothing to disclose at all? People and goverments in this world are so corrupt anything is possible. Disinformation tactics ad infinitum... lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 24, 2020 #18 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, astrobeing said: I'll never forget back in 1989 when two electrochemists with PhDs declared to the world that nuclear fusion was the only explanation for the results of an experiment they performed. I think you ment to write cold fusion, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 24, 2020 #19 Share Posted July 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Im starting to think that these are all charlatans who want to suck money from the gullible believers, have their day in the spotlights... and that there is nothing to disclose at all? Same can be said for the paranormal crowd. They do similar. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 24, 2020 #20 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Same can be said for the paranormal crowd. They do similar. Absolutely. Its the What If that sells. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 24, 2020 #21 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Hazzard said: Absolutely. Its the What If that sells. The What IF is a whole lotta nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted July 24, 2020 #22 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, XenoFish said: The What IF is a whole lotta nothing. Oh, ye of little faith! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted July 24, 2020 Author #23 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I am a molecular biologist that deals primarily in virology. I have learned that when I need an opinion on an aspect of a phylogenetic tree of a critter I go to someone that is an expert in that field. I guess to be clear; I completely believe that we should trust opinions of a subject with more weight by those that are experts in that area. I lean towards the belief that Aliens either are in our air space from time to time or a country has technology from Aliens and are in our air space from time to time. Why? Because I put MUCH more weight on pilot testimony than internet debunking warriors. Pilots live above the cloud line. They have nothing to gain (reputation to lose) by reporting what they see. And in the last 60 years we have pilot after pilot testimony. One likes to think they are bright enough to realize the volume of knowledge they do not know. I love to read forums like these because they sort of make me chuckle with coffee in the mornings. So many people feel safe with their bedrock belief that everything is known and figured out from antiquity to now. It's cute. What will be "disclosed" tonight? I don't know. There is a high probability it will be a let down. But the fact that a conservative "news" outlet is rolling with this... tells me times are changing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted July 24, 2020 #24 Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hazzard said: I think you meant to write cold fusion, right? No, I meant for people to remember cold fusion, that solution to all of our energy problems thirty years ago. After all, two brainiacs with PhDs went on national television to tell us they created fusion in a bottle so who were we to question their conclusions, right? Sure, they didn't do any obvious tests for fusion like measure neutron emissions, but surely they concluded it was fusion because they were so smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 24, 2020 #25 Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 hours ago, Nobu said: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6174546210001#sp=show-clips tomorrow may change a lot of things. or people. Its probably just written as a sensationalist story. What will most likely happen is we find out they have been crowing ultra pure superconductors on that secret mini-space shuttle or something. Or some other material we cannot make down here on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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