Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 6, 2020 #76 Share Posted August 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: I have my doubts that Austin stayed on mission during the whole Sasquatch/Shalon saga. Allowing his memory to be erased, as a government asset, is surely an unauthorised destruction of government records. I hear sasquatch I hear instant bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 6, 2020 #77 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Been on earth a long time lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted August 6, 2020 #78 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: I hear sasquatch I hear instant bull But not when you hear "Bionic Guy Steve Austin"? O.K. 1 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowpane Posted August 6, 2020 #79 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: I may have taking that out of context and I'm not black and I have been at no protests. I just think it's a sensitive time to bring up any kind of slavery To repeat: the people working on the construction of the Great Pyramid and other projects might have been conscripts, "their work and their reward measured and scrutinized [Kemp 1989: 128]", but they were not slaves. The existence of deplorable and reprehensible events of the present day and recent past is absolutely no good reason for refraining from the discussion of events in the remote past. The past - all the past, good aspects and bad - is a part of our collective human identity; not to acknowledge it is to deny that identity. 2 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 6, 2020 #80 Share Posted August 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: I may have taking that out of context and I'm not black and I have been at no protests. I just think it's a sensitive time to bring up any kind of slavery I have a ancestor who was a slave and I find nothing wrong with it. 5 hours ago, Golden Duck said: But not when you hear "Bionic Guy Steve Austin"? You have to watch the Venture Brother's version. 2 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #81 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I got so many races in me I have dutch,german,irish,Native American indian,Scottish I'm a mutt lol but it shouldn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #82 Share Posted August 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Windowpane said: To repeat: the people working on the construction of the Great Pyramid and other projects might have been conscripts, "their work and their reward measured and scrutinized [Kemp 1989: 128]", but they were not slaves. The existence of deplorable and reprehensible events of the present day and recent past is absolutely no good reason for refraining from the discussion of events in the remote past. The past - all the past, good aspects and bad - is a part of our collective human identity; not to acknowledge it is to deny that identity. Ok you seem to have some time researching. How did you come to this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #83 Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Piney said: I have a ancestor who was a slave and I find nothing wrong with it. You have to watch the Venture Brother's version. I've seen so much racism in the last month it makes me sick. The Divided States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowpane Posted August 7, 2020 #84 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: Ok you seem to have some time researching. How did you come to this conclusion? By thinking. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #85 Share Posted August 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Windowpane said: By thinking. I think about a lot of things, but it doesn't make me correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #86 Share Posted August 7, 2020 With that said I could claim they ate meatloaf every Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 7, 2020 #87 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 12:04 AM, stereologist said: You mean like Trump claimed that he was kidding about injecting disinfectants? Could we keep that prize goose out of at least ONE section of this forum? 1 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 7, 2020 #88 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: I got so many races in me I have dutch,german,irish,Native American indian,Scottish I'm a mutt lol but it shouldn't matter Let me guess, Cherokee? 1 1 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #89 Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Let me guess, Cherokee? no Iroquois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #90 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Little history on that.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Iroquois sorry to go off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #91 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Ok that link sucked my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #92 Share Posted August 7, 2020 http://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/File:OHS_AL04515.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 7, 2020 #93 Share Posted August 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: no Iroquois Which one? I'm Nanticoke- Lenape with a drop of Mohawk, but since I'm a member of the Grand River Joseph Family I have a lot of Mohawk relatives. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 7, 2020 #94 Share Posted August 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Piney said: Which one? I'm Nanticoke- Lenape with a drop of Mohawk, but since I'm a member of the Grand River Joseph Family I have a lot of Mohawk relatives. I seen an Indian woman in our family tree book. I asked,"who's that?" GMa says I don't know but she's Iriquois so I'm stuck there 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbled Hypocrite83 Posted August 10, 2020 #95 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 2:25 AM, Windowpane said: To repeat: the people working on the construction of the Great Pyramid and other projects might have been conscripts, "their work and their reward measured and scrutinized [Kemp 1989: 128]", but they were not slaves. The existence of deplorable and reprehensible events of the present day and recent past is absolutely no good reason for refraining from the discussion of events in the remote past. The past - all the past, good aspects and bad - is a part of our collective human identity; not to acknowledge it is to deny that identity. the people working on the construction of the Great Pyramid and other projects might have been conscripts,... wow 4 trophies. I forgot to hit follow sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowpane Posted August 10, 2020 #96 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: the people working on the construction of the Great Pyramid and other projects might have been conscripts,... wow 4 trophies. I forgot to hit follow sorry See this post. See also this publication; and this one. There is also some discussion here, Pt. I, Ch. 14. . 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted August 10, 2020 #97 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 7:55 PM, Humbled Hypocrite83 said: I've seen so much racism in the last month it makes me sick. The Divided States So, watch the Venture Brothers' version. Less nausea all the way around. Harte 2 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos5150 Posted August 11, 2020 #98 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) On 8/6/2020 at 12:25 AM, Windowpane said: To repeat: the people working on the construction of the Great Pyramid and other projects might have been conscripts, "their work and their reward measured and scrutinized [Kemp 1989: 128]", but they were not slaves. The notion they did not use slaves to build the pyramids came largely from and popularized by Lehner's premature assessment of the provenance of the so called "pyramid workers town" (which dates to the reign of Menkure). The conditions there were of a standard clearly above what was expected to be afforded to slaves ergo "slaves were not used to build the pyramids". Despite the clear need for a more cautious interpretation with it more likely at the very least this town did not serve the typical pyramid (slave) laborer, this was repeated over and over as "fact". Expectedly as it turns out more discovery revealed the town was not for the pyramid workers after all, but rather to service the associated barracks and port. Quote Lehner said his team also found at Giza charcoal remains of cedar, juniper, pine and oak, all trees that grew in a part of the eastern Mediterranean called the Levant, along with more than 50 examples of combed ware jars, a style of pottery from that region.... Where there is a port there are sailors. At the city the archaeologists found evidence that a series of long buildings called "galleries" held troops who could have participated in voyages to the Levant and possibly guarded VIPs while at Giza.... Archaeologists once assumed galleries like these held pyramid workers, something that recent discoveries call into question; in recent excavations of the galleries Lehner's team found charcoal remains from wood, particularly cedar, that was originally from the Levant. "What was all this cedar from the Levant doing in a common workers barracks?" Lehner asked. In fact, these troops are represented in the tombs of highly placed officials and in pyramid temples. "You have representations of these gangs, these troops, repeated over and over again," he said, adding that the word for them can be translated as "escort" or "the following." Each individual gallery could hold about 40 people comfortably, which is a unit these troops could be organized into, Lehner said. "I wonder if we are basically seeing barracks not of the workers, but of elite crews of ships," Lehner said. The notion they did no use slaves is unfortunately bogus so one would think at some point it would stop being repeated. A further tip off this might was not the case, for example, the reports of Sneferu among others going about capturing 7,000 Nubians and 11,000 Lybians-what do you think the point of making prisoners of nearly 20,000 people was? Couldn't have been to work on all those pyramids he built. And then you have the indentured slaves, indigenous criminals and whatnot that would also be used as labor. Edited August 11, 2020 by Thanos5150 6 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted August 11, 2020 #99 Share Posted August 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, Thanos5150 said: Expectedly as it turns out more discovery revealed the town was not for the pyramid workers after all, but rather to service the associated barracks and port. This is Lehner's illogical speculation as well. Ports by definition have roads leading in and out. No such roads exist and "wet sand" is nonsensical. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 11, 2020 #100 Share Posted August 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, cladking said: This is Lehner's illogical speculation as well. Ports by definition have roads leading in and out. No such roads exist and "wet sand" is nonsensical. Wet sand works and your stating it doesn't is nonsensical and a good example of your making something up because you hate Egyptology and everything they say. Okay show us the FACTS that wet sand does not aid heavy weights being dragged over it. Roads on limestone? Okay. Could you point to the archaeological evidence of other Egyptian ports having 'roads' leading in and out? 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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