Elon Musk Thinks Aliens Built the Pyramids

[Hanslune]

1 hour ago, Thanos5150 said:

The notion they did not use slaves to build the pyramids came largely from and popularized by Lehner's premature assessment of the provenance of the so called "pyramid workers town" (which dates to the reign of Menkure). The conditions there were of a standard clearly above what was expected to be afforded to slaves ergo "slaves were not used to build the pyramids". Despite the clear need for a more cautious interpretation with it more likely at the very least this town did not serve the typical pyramid (slave) laborer, this was repeated over and over as "fact".

Expectedly as it turns out more discovery revealed the town was  not for the pyramid workers after all, but rather to service the associated barracks and port. 

The notion they did no use slaves is unfortunately bogus so one would think at some point it would stop being repeated. A further tip off this might was not the case, for example, the reports of Sneferu among others going about capturing 7,000 Nubians and 11,000 Lybians-what do you think the point of making prisoners of nearly 20,000 people was? Couldn't have been to work on all those pyramids he built. And then you have the indentured slaves, indigenous criminals and whatnot that would also be used as labor.  

 

Why was his assessment premature? He made up a hypothesis based on the evidence he had at that time and in later excavations he found (2014)  more information that made him change his mind, from your link.

 

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"What was all this cedar from the Levant doing in a common workers barracks?" Lehner asked. In fact, these troops are represented in the tombs of highly placed officials and in pyramid temples. "You have representations of these gangs, these troops, repeated over and over again," he said, adding that the word for them can be translated as "escort" or "the following." Each individual gallery could hold about 40 people comfortably, which is a unit these troops could be organized into, Lehner said.

"I wonder if we are basically seeing barracks not of the workers, but of elite crews of ships," Lehner said. A pharaoh named Sahure had images in his valley temple (part of his pyramid complex) of troops near the king's "ship of state," he noted.

Lehner's suspicions that the galleries were meant for troops were reinforced in 2012 when the archaeologists discovered a broken hippo hip. In ancient Egypt, hippos were considered nuisances, as the animals ate crops at night. "The young troops go out and they harpoon them and spear them," he told the Toronto audience.

Not his fault that people don't update theories as they change as new information comes in

[Thanos5150]

1 hour ago, Hanslune said:

Why was his assessment premature? He made up a hypothesis based on the evidence he had at that time and in later excavations he found (2014)  more information that made him change his mind, from your link.

The problem is that it was not presented as "hypothesis" but rather "fact" which was widely publicized in the media at the time as such spawning several "documentaries" sensationalizing this "discovery". A discovery which seemed quite at odds with it being for the pyramid workers even before these later discoveries. To Lehner's credit he has revised his "hypothesis" accordingly which hopefully there is more to come.

But its odd you focus on my offhand comment instead of the actual information. 

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Not his fault that people don't update theories as they change as new information comes in

But it is his theory that is being updated which has been 6yrs now-a theory that was wrong to begin with.   

Edited August 11, 2020 by Thanos5150

[Hanslune]

2 hours ago, Thanos5150 said:

The problem is that it was not presented as "hypothesis" but rather "fact" which was widely publicized in the media at the time as such spawning several "documentaries" sensationalizing this "discovery". A discovery which seemed quite at odds with it being for the pyramid workers even before these later discoveries. To Lehner's credit he has revised his "hypothesis" accordingly which hopefully there is more to come.

But its odd you focus on my offhand comment instead of the actual information. 

But it is his theory that is being updated which has been 6yrs now-a theory that was wrong to begin with.   

Not odd at all. I find it very odd that you think its odd. Many theories are presented as fact. It is commonly accepted that scientists don't alwasy say, 'blah blah (interesting theory) but it's only a theory? Why are you upset about this one? Theories that 'sound right' often get picked up by the non-scientific mainstream and have a long history of outlasting the actually evidence.

Most theories are wrong so why is it important to you that a theory that was replaced, as it should have been, was done so based on new evidence. How do you expected it to happen?

So, tell us, what theories have you promoted as being right then found new evidence so that your theory was updated and was therefore wrong to begin with?

 

[thedutchiedutch]

Reading too much von Däniken perhaps ?

[Thanos5150]

1 hour ago, Hanslune said:

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"But its odd you focus on my offhand comment instead of the actual information".

I was being facetious as it is not odd at all.  

[Humbled Hypocrite83]

On 8/10/2020 at 10:34 AM, Windowpane said:

See this post.

See also this publication; and this one.  There is also some discussion here, Pt. I, Ch. 14.

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Nice read thank you

[Humbled Hypocrite83]

On 8/10/2020 at 11:01 AM, Harte said:

So, watch the Venture Brothers' version.

Less nausea all the way around.

Harte

I'm not sure what that means 

[ufoguy]

yes aliens did build the pyramids..he's correct

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

32 minutes ago, ufoguy said:

yes aliens did build the pyramids..he's correct

Egyptians are aliens ?

[Chronus]

1, The person above me thinks everythingisaconspiracy

 

2. I am a believer that, yes indeed, aliens helped build the pyramids. 

 

 

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

31 minutes ago, Chronus said:

1, The person above me thinks everythingisaconspiracy

You do know what Not means don't you ?

31 minutes ago, Chronus said:

2. I am a believer that, yes indeed, aliens helped build the pyramids. 

Why do you believe that ?

[Swede]

35 minutes ago, Chronus said:

1, The person above me thinks everythingisaconspiracy

2. I am a believer that, yes indeed, aliens helped build the pyramids.

1) Incorrect. The individual's screen name is Not every thing is a conspiracy.

2) What you "believe" is not supported by the credible research. Kindly provide valid support of your "belief".

Those who would appear to be rather involved in fantasy material may not be the most qualified to present archaeological interpretations.

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Edited October 8, 2020 by Swede

[Chronus]

@Noteverythingisaconspiracy and @Swede The reason I believe aliens helped, mainly, like probably most people who believe aliens helped, is because I feel like its very un-likely that the Egyptians could move all those 2 ton rocks.

 

But admittedly, you guys have probably heard that one before. 

[Swede]

2 minutes ago, Chronus said:

@Noteverythingisaconspiracy and @Swede The reason I believe aliens helped, mainly, like probably most people who believe aliens helped, is because I feel like its very un-likely that the Egyptians could move all those 2 ton rocks.

 

But admittedly, you guys have probably heard that one before. 

Then you have not studied the data, Egyptian or otherwise. Ignorance of humankind's past accomplishments is not a supportable position.

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[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

2 minutes ago, Chronus said:

@Noteverythingisaconspiracy and @Swede The reason I believe aliens helped, mainly, like probably most people who believe aliens helped, is because I feel like its very un-likely that the Egyptians could move all those 2 ton rocks.

 

But admittedly, you guys have probably heard that one before. 

So your belief is not based on any actual evidence then. Its basically "I don't know how they did it so it must be aliens". Maybe give our ancestors a little credit instead of discounting their abilies.

[Chronus]

@Noteverythingisaconspiracy and @Swede I also wasn't asking for you guys to change your beliefs, I'm just telling you what I think, and you guys can think what you want, leave it at that.

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

1 minute ago, Chronus said:

@Noteverythingisaconspiracy and @Swede I also wasn't asking for you guys to change your beliefs, I'm just telling you what I think, and you guys can think what you want, leave it at that.

I prefer to believe things based of evidence. If you prefer to believe things based on nothing but ignorance of history that it is of course your prerogative.

[Chronus]

19 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

I prefer to believe things based of evidence. If you prefer to believe things based on nothing but ignorance of history that it is of course your prerogative.

Fair enough, I can't make you be right.

[Essan]

23 minutes ago, Chronus said:

@Noteverythingisaconspiracy and @Swede The reason I believe aliens helped, mainly, like probably most people who believe aliens helped, is because I feel like its very un-likely that the Egyptians could move all those 2 ton rocks.

 

But admittedly, you guys have probably heard that one before. 

 

But there is no evidence that any alien has ever moved even a 2 pound rock.  Anywhere in the universe


However, we do know that humans can moved rocks weighing much more than 2 tons.

[Chronus]

11 minutes ago, Essan said:

 

But there is no evidence that any alien has ever moved even a 2 pound rock.  Anywhere in the universe


However, we do know that humans can moved rocks weighing much more than 2 tons.

Would there be evidence?

What you said is almost like saying "there is no proof that bigfoot has pushed down a tree"

I believe in Bigfoot but I probably wouldn't know if it pushed down a tree unless I was there.

 

So there would be no way to know if aliens moved rocks unless you witnessed it, that is if you don't already believe they helped create the pyramids.

[Essan]

20 minutes ago, Chronus said:

What you said is almost like saying "there is no proof that bigfoot has pushed down a tree"

 

Indeed.

We know trees get blown down by the wind all the time.   We have no evidence any bigfoot has ever been capable of pushing down even a sapling.

So, when you find a tree has fallen down, what is your logical deduction?   Given only the two possibilities?

[Chronus]

12 minutes ago, Essan said:

Indeed.

We know trees get blown down by the wind all the time.   We have no evidence any bigfoot has ever been capable of pushing down even a sapling.

So, when you find a tree has fallen down, what is your logical deduction?   Given only the two possibilities?

90% I would vote for wind

[RoofGardener]

10 minutes ago, Essan said:

Indeed.

We know trees get blown down by the wind all the time.   We have no evidence any bigfoot has ever been capable of pushing down even a sapling.

So, when you find a tree has fallen down, what is your logical deduction?   Given only the two possibilities?

I'd say that it was PROBABLY done by Zebra's !! 

 

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

3 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

I'd say that it was PROBABLY done by Zebra's !! 

 

Heretic !

It was obviously done by the invisible pink unicorn. This also explains why we dont see any evidence.

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Noteverythingisaconspiracy
Unicorn not uniform. Damned autocorrect.

[Golden Duck]

On 10/8/2020 at 11:09 PM, Chronus said:

Would there be evidence?

What you said is almost like saying "there is no proof that bigfoot has pushed down a tree"

I believe in Bigfoot but I probably wouldn't know if it pushed down a tree unless I was there.

 

So there would be no way to know if aliens moved rocks unless you witnessed it, that is if you don't already believe they helped create the pyramids.

Have you heard of the Bronze Horseman in St Petersburg?

The Bronze Horseman stands on a big stone, the greatest stone, the Thunder Stone.