Popular Post ExpandMyMind Posted August 6, 2020 Popular Post #1 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Quote New York state is suing to dissolve the National Rifle Association, according to a lawsuit filed on Thursday, presenting a new, major threat to the country’s biggest gun rights group just months before the presidential election. The civil lawsuit, which New York Attorney General Letitia James filed in state court, alleges that the NRA’s leadership spent funds improperly, engaged in self-dealing, and made false or misleading disclosures to the attorney general and the IRS. It comes at an immensely precarious moment for the group. The NRA spent big to help President Donald Trump get elected in 2016, but now faces serious financial challenges –– in part because of hefty legal bills. On top of that, the coronavirus pandemic has hit the NRA hard. It had to cancel its yearly meeting, which is usually a major fundraising event. And it has laid off scores of employees. But even before the pandemic, the group’s leadership faced criticism for what many characterized as exorbitant spending. And an ugly legal fight with its former longtime advertising firm also pushed the group’s inner drama into the spotlight. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/nra-dissolve-ny-ag-392270 I guess it makes sense, since they literally stole $64,000,0000 from their members. And that's only in a three year period. Who knows how much worse it's been over the years. I'm guessing that those who will be most vocally against this will be the exact people they stole from 4 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 6, 2020 #2 Share Posted August 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/nra-dissolve-ny-ag-392270 I guess it makes sense, since they literally stole $64,000,0000 from their members. And that's only in a three year period. Who knows how much worse it's been over the years. I'm guessing that those who will be most vocally against this will be the exact people they stole from Can you really win a lawsuit to dissolve a company? I can see a class action suit from current and former members. I can see arrests if something illegal was done. Can I sue BLM for the damages in the city? That's getting off topic though. I have never been a member and was always on the fence about the NRA. They serve their purpose and have done a decent job overall, but stealing money should make the members angry. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeGorilla Posted August 6, 2020 #3 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Lol NRA has been corrupt for years, I'm amazed they have any members left. I guess that's why they offer so many free memberships, they'll just eventually steal it back, anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted August 6, 2020 #4 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Quote New York AG sues to dissolve the NRA That'll happen 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 6, 2020 #5 Share Posted August 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, Myles said: have never been a member and was always on the fence about the NRA. They serve their purpose and have done a decent job overall, When I was young, they offered really good hunter's safety courses for young people and new hunters. That has been my only interaction. Seems like their purpose has shifted over the years. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted August 6, 2020 #6 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/nra-dissolve-ny-ag-392270 I guess it makes sense, since they literally stole $64,000,0000 from their members. And that's only in a three year period. Who knows how much worse it's been over the years. I'm guessing that those who will be most vocally against this will be the exact people they stole from Why are they trying to dissolve the NRA during election year? Its not the brightest move is it? But then again, there have been a number of bizarre strategies this year including defunding the police. The democrats arent even helping themselves lol. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted August 6, 2020 #7 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Maybe they do corrupt stuff, who knows. But I can't help but feel that the only reason the NRA received so much scrunity and investigation was because it's right wing. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted August 6, 2020 #8 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) lmao, good luck. nra is actually expanding globally, if anything this lawsuit will bring more attention to it, and new members, if nra was nearly as corrupt s democratic party, every single state in usa would be like vermont Edited August 6, 2020 by aztek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted August 6, 2020 #9 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, HandsomeGorilla said: Lol NRA has been corrupt for years, really??? lol, any examples? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted August 6, 2020 #10 Share Posted August 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, aztek said: really??? lol, any examples? Weeelllll, I know this is really tricky, but you could have clicked on the link provided in the OP. Oh, but the problem then is that you have to know how to read, and then.. understand what you have read. Probably asking too much, I suspect. Sorry, just forget it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted August 6, 2020 #11 Share Posted August 6, 2020 The NRA used to be for gun control. Just plain silly how they fight for any restrictions on the 2nd Amendment now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 6, 2020 #12 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Myles said: I have never been a member and was always on the fence about the NRA. They serve their purpose and have done a decent job overall, but stealing money should make the members angry. I left them 3 years ago and last year joined Gun Owners of America. They are back to the original mission the NRA espoused and worked for. Screw La Pierre. It's a damned shame we have to fight so hard, relentlessly to protect one of the clearest rights in our Constitution. Every state resident that refuses to stand up to the thugs who go after 2A deserve the tyranny they receive. I guess they think they can go along and get along but it will never be enough until they totally remove the right to keep and bear and in many of the states that isn't going to happen with political speeches and votes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted August 6, 2020 #13 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, aztek said: really??? lol, any examples? Well, their recent visits to Russia might be a clue. Marina Butima ring a bell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 6, 2020 #14 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, South Alabam said: The NRA used to be for gun control. Just plain silly how they fight for any restrictions on the 2nd Amendment now. What's this nonsense? They've never advocated FOR limiting 2A. If they have gotten much more involved in fighting those who want to remove our rights, it's because THAT effort has gotten so much more active. Locals in Virginia just got a timely lesson in staying aware at the ballot box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeGorilla Posted August 6, 2020 #15 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Tatetopa said: When I was young, they offered really good hunter's safety courses for young people and new hunters. That has been my only interaction. Seems like their purpose has shifted over the years. Yes it has. They did great work for many years, safety and marksmanship for new hunters and those feeling the need to protect themselves. Then the profiteering, pilfering and lining the pockets of the corporate types began. I honestly don't know of any gun owner who is still a member of the NRA, they became jaded long ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 6, 2020 #16 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, HandsomeGorilla said: Then the profiteering, pilfering and lining the pockets of the corporate types began. Indeed. It seems like promoting fear and inducing everybody to buy firearms became a major marketing concern. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted August 7, 2020 #17 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, South Alabam said: The NRA used to be for gun control. Just plain silly how they fight for any restrictions on the 2nd Amendment now. true, they did and they realized their mistake, in politics if you give an inch they will take a mile, so they changed tactics, nothing wrong with that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted August 7, 2020 #18 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, and then said: What's this nonsense? They've never advocated FOR limiting 2A. If they have gotten much more involved in fighting those who want to remove our rights, it's because THAT effort has gotten so much more active. Locals in Virginia just got a timely lesson in staying aware at the ballot box. https://time.com/4431356/nra-gun-control-history/ The 1930s crime spree of the Prohibition era, which still summons images of outlaws outfitted with machine guns, prompted President Franklin Roosevelt to make gun control a feature of the New Deal. The NRA assisted Roosevelt in drafting the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1938 Gun Control Act, the first federal gun control laws. These laws placed heavy taxes and regulation requirements on firearms that were associated with crime, such as machine guns, sawed-off shotguns and silencers. Gun sellers and owners were required to register with the federal government and felons were banned from owning weapons. Not only was the legislation unanimously upheld by the Supreme Court in 1939, but Karl T. Frederick, the president of the NRA, testified before Congress stating, “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted August 7, 2020 #19 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, South Alabam said: https://time.com/4431356/nra-gun-control-history/ The 1930s crime spree of the Prohibition era, which still summons images of outlaws outfitted with machine guns, prompted President Franklin Roosevelt to make gun control a feature of the New Deal. The NRA assisted Roosevelt in drafting the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1938 Gun Control Act, the first federal gun control laws. These laws placed heavy taxes and regulation requirements on firearms that were associated with crime, such as machine guns, sawed-off shotguns and silencers. Gun sellers and owners were required to register with the federal government and felons were banned from owning weapons. Not only was the legislation unanimously upheld by the Supreme Court in 1939, but Karl T. Frederick, the president of the NRA, testified before Congress stating, “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” oh sht, they had their liberals in 30s too, who knew, 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLingo Posted August 7, 2020 #20 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 hours ago, aztek said: lmao, good luck. nra is actually expanding globally, if anything this lawsuit will bring more attention to it, and new members, if nra was nearly as corrupt s democratic party, every single state in usa would be like vermont heh they tried to get a toe hold over here in australia.. and were shut down completely.. any politician who even has a sniff of being with them kinda does not get elected.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwynbleidd Posted August 7, 2020 #21 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Why are they trying to dissolve the NRA during election year? It's become blazingly obvious how desperate they're getting now. As @OverSword said, "Like this is gonna happen" But don't be surprised if there's a mass shooting or two prior to the election, simply to hammer this point home for the followers of the Dems. Perhaps the shooting of a child as a false flag will drive their point home even further. Desperation makes people do desperate things, after all, it's gotta have shock value for the masses. People are incredibly naive if they trust what they're being told in the MSM today. Check out this article on how we are already being prepped for the failure of the 2020 Election. Sources/Links by American Investigative Journalist Whitney Webb (Chile). Quote How government and media are prepping America for a failed 2020 election Quote As World War II drew to a close in Europe, British philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote that, "neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear." Though numerous examples in the post-World War II era have proven Russell’s point, perhaps one of the best examples was the U.S. public’s willingness to swallow lie after lie about Saddam Hussein’s Iraq due to the climate of fear that followed the September 11 attacks. Those lies, propagated by dubious intelligence, government officials and a compliant media, resulted in catastrophes–large and small, both abroad and at home. Today, an analogous narrative is being crafted by many of the same players–both in media and government–yet it has avoided scrutiny, even from independent media. Happy reading! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted August 7, 2020 #22 Share Posted August 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, DingoLingo said: heh they tried to get a toe hold over here in australia.. and were shut down completely.. any politician who even has a sniff of being with them kinda does not get elected.. you win some you lose some do you have a hells angels chapter in australia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted August 7, 2020 Author #23 Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Myles said: Can you really win a lawsuit to dissolve a company? I can see a class action suit from current and former members. I can see arrests if something illegal was done. Can I sue BLM for the damages in the city? That's getting off topic though. I have never been a member and was always on the fence about the NRA. They serve their purpose and have done a decent job overall, but stealing money should make the members angry. I think the precedence the suit cites is the dissolution of the Trump Foundation charity. I expect it's possible, otherwise there would be no point in attempting to do so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted August 7, 2020 Author #24 Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Why are they trying to dissolve the NRA during election year? Its not the brightest move is it? But then again, there have been a number of bizarre strategies this year including defunding the police. The democrats arent even helping themselves lol. Yeah, politically it's awful. But that should reinforce how necessary they think it is to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLingo Posted August 7, 2020 #25 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, aztek said: you win some you lose some do you have a hells angels chapter in australia? kinda.. not very big though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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